Trump culture

[ptbw forever]

Why did America elect Donald Trump as President? His policies did not align with Republican orthodoxy. Republicans have championed free trade. Republicans have championed moral comportment of public personalities. Republicans have championed budgets that reduce the federal deficit.

So something about Trump's personality, his charisma have persuaded Center Right and far right voters. I believe it is the popular culture. That is to say the culture spawned by two regrettable factions in American culture namely reality television and professional wrestling.

In both of these factions, we find similar means of behavior. Sensationalism and violence. Trump's appeal appears to be driven by his off-the-cuff rhetoric that leans on driving fear, suspicion and division. The same rhetoric that drives reality TV and professional wrestling. Alliances to divide one faction from another are the stock and trade of reality RV shows. Trump is a reality TV star and brings that tactic to work every day.

Sensational canard laden rhetoric motivates the fans of reality TV as well as fans of professional wrestling. Most Americans take this with a healthy grain of salt. But to the low brow culture set who admires the fake nature of wrestling and the banal concerns of reality TV shows, sensational rhetoric from the president has appeal of a particularly dangerous quality. Those fans want the same level of behavior on the part of the head of state.

Is it then true that Trump supporters are not sufficiently cosmopolitan to see the hazards of reality TV/WWE behavior on behalf of the leader of our nation! Are we now under the influence of a generation that has forgotten virtues and favor vices?

You Tards just don’t get it.....

We voted for Trump because we like what he stands for....

You Tards don’t like him because unlike the average ***** republican Trump Fights Back...

Trump is MAGA...….

We tardsmdon't like him because he is a phony, boorish brute unworthy of respect as he shows none himself.

Your examples pale in comparison to Trumps actions......

Trump is MAGA.....

I am curious, what did you think of bill clinton?

You seem like a decent, yet confused person.........

I am trying to remember when President Clin on mocked the disabled.

Thanks for proving my point about being just another idiot Democrat media drone.

 

[karpenter]

You just make up what you want, don't you?

Made-Up's Ass
Look At The Audiences Of Day-Time Yap
You Can SEE Who They Are

 

[ptbw forever]

Why did America elect Donald Trump as President? His policies did not align with Republican orthodoxy. Republicans have championed free trade. Republicans have championed moral comportment of public personalities. Republicans have championed budgets that reduce the federal deficit.

So something about Trump's personality, his charisma have persuaded Center Right and far right voters. I believe it is the popular culture. That is to say the culture spawned by two regrettable factions in American culture namely reality television and professional wrestling.

In both of these factions, we find similar means of behavior. Sensationalism and violence. Trump's appeal appears to be driven by his off-the-cuff rhetoric that leans on driving fear, suspicion and division. The same rhetoric that drives reality TV and professional wrestling. Alliances to divide one faction from another are the stock and trade of reality RV shows. Trump is a reality TV star and brings that tactic to work every day.

Sensational canard laden rhetoric motivates the fans of reality TV as well as fans of professional wrestling. Most Americans take this with a healthy grain of salt. But to the low brow culture set who admires the fake nature of wrestling and the banal concerns of reality TV shows, sensational rhetoric from the president has appeal of a particularly dangerous quality. Those fans want the same level of behavior on the part of the head of state.

Is it then true that Trump supporters are not sufficiently cosmopolitan to see the hazards of reality TV/WWE behavior on behalf of the leader of our nation! Are we now under the influence of a generation that has forgotten virtues and favor vices?

You Tards just don’t get it.....

We voted for Trump because we like what he stands for....

You Tards don’t like him because unlike the average ***** republican Trump Fights Back...

Trump is MAGA...….

We tardsmdon't like him because he is a phony, boorish brute unworthy of respect as he shows none himself.

Your examples pale in comparison to Trumps actions......

Trump is MAGA.....

I am curious, what did you think of bill clinton?

You seem like a decent, yet confused person.........

No, Nosmo is just another Democrat asshole.

Spoken like a wrestler.

Spoken like a child.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You may be right about that in civility.Butn Joe had no problem stealing from others and affecting families with his legislation over the years. Obamacare affected a lot of people's family finances in spite of the pre existing conditions mantra. I never heard much from any Prog Socialist politician when people begged for help as their health premiums and the penalty took from their living standards.

That’s a fair critique and a good debate. The counter balance was that millions more got insurance and patients gained more protections. But affordability was pitched and promised and not delivered.

I for one wish the right would have worked with Dems on trying to help costs instead of the non stop “repeal and replace” BS. You can’t say that helped anything.

It helped me. I don't have to pay that Fn fine any longer.

How about instead of paying the fine you enroll for health insurance so we the tax payers don’t need to pay your hospital bills should you get into an accident?

How about not asking over 20% of my net pay to do it? Commie Care is a complete failure because it's only affordable to floor sweepers and french fry makers. For the middle-class working, it's unaffordable and junk policies to boot.

BTW, I had coverage my entire adult life until that big-eared Commie polluted the White House. So how about you voters be more cautious about who you elect so people like me could keep our healthcare?

How much were you paying before and what did it go up to? How much do you make a year?

I always had employer sponsored coverage; again, all of my life. We didn't pay anything towards it. It was 100% provided by my employer. When he canceled our insurance, he told us that it went up over 30% that year alone, and because of Commie Care, the agency he worked with told him that was just the start.

Keep your doctor? Keep your hospital? Well yeah, if you have the money. They only offered one company for my clinic (that I've been going to all of my life) and not only did it cost a ton of money, but it had a 7K deductible, 7K out of pocket, $50.00 office copay for doctors, no dental, no prescriptions.

In other words, unless I planned on getting hit by a bus, the policy was totally useless. Now I wouldn't mind paying on a catastrophic plan for $150.00 or $200.00 a month, but they wanted three times that amount for a garbage plan because I got very little government subsidies; like 20 bucks a month!

More distressful than that is government doesn't know your expenses. Sure, they ask some questions about your finances, but not nearly enough. They don't ask how much money you spend on gasoline to get to work every month, how much your mortgage or rent is, how much you pay on car and home/ apartment insurance, lease or loan amount on your car, prescription costs per month, what you currently spend on medical care, what you spend on utilities, what you spend on college loans for your kids........

Nope, they don't want to know. Big Brother says you make X amount of money, then Big Brother says you can afford health insurance. So it is said, so it is written.

 

[Darkwind]

Why did America elect Donald Trump as President? His policies did not align with Republican orthodoxy. Republicans have championed free trade. Republicans have championed moral comportment of public personalities. Republicans have championed budgets that reduce the federal deficit.

So something about Trump's personality, his charisma have persuaded Center Right and far right voters. I believe it is the popular culture. That is to say the culture spawned by two regrettable factions in American culture namely reality television and professional wrestling.

In both of these factions, we find similar means of behavior. Sensationalism and violence. Trump's appeal appears to be driven by his off-the-cuff rhetoric that leans on driving fear, suspicion and division. The same rhetoric that drives reality TV and professional wrestling. Alliances to divide one faction from another are the stock and trade of reality RV shows. Trump is a reality TV star and brings that tactic to work every day.

Sensational canard laden rhetoric motivates the fans of reality TV as well as fans of professional wrestling. Most Americans take this with a healthy grain of salt. But to the low brow culture set who admires the fake nature of wrestling and the banal concerns of reality TV shows, sensational rhetoric from the president has appeal of a particularly dangerous quality. Those fans want the same level of behavior on the part of the head of state.

Is it then true that Trump supporters are not sufficiently cosmopolitan to see the hazards of reality TV/WWE behavior on behalf of the leader of our nation! Are we now under the influence of a generation that has forgotten virtues and favor vices?

I'm sure that you have been told this before, but you need to look no further than your own mirror for why Trump was elected President.

The continued nastiness from the left, and the spinelessness of the GOP to fight back are the only two real indicators you need to understand this.

Even to this day, the Democrats are giving the GOP lessons in "standing your ground". Proof? Look at Adam Schitt and his refusal to even acknowledge just what a lying piece of shit he is, and the rest of the Democrats are holding firm in backing him.


Would that the GOP had that kind of backbone, this country wouldn't have needed to elect someone like Trump.

How can you say the 'nastiness from the left' and not recognize the comportment of Trump? How can you say the 'nastiness of the left' and say Adam Schitt? How can you cite the spinelessness of the FOP when Merrick Garland never got a Senate hearing?

Because the nastiness from the left started a decade or more before Trump ever came onto the scene. The truth is, it is the 'nastiness' from the left, and the spinelessness of the GOP, that led to Trump's election.

 

[Nosmo King]

Nice work, you literally just proved his point. Bravo

No, idiot.

I took his non-existent “point”, fashioned it into a blunt weapon and smashed him over the head with it.

Not to mention the fact that reality shows have largely DEMOCRAT audiences and literally always have. Most Democrats are no longer even intelligent enough to understand what a debate actually is anyway.

Wrestlers smash things over people’s heads. Q.E.D.

Where did you find the information about the politics of reality TV audiences?

Reality TV started with shows like “Big Brother” on CBS and MTV shit like “Real world” and “Road Rules” aka 99.9999% Democrat audiences.

Just because you can find a few shows that largely are derogatory towards conservatives and rural people but yet have a significant minority of Republicans watching them like the Chrisley’s and such doesn’t mean that reality tv is not absolutely dominated by Democrat audiences.

Television in general is becoming exclusively watched by Democrats. No real conservative could watch the highly partisan or degenerate filth that lines the schedules of all 3 big networks and their subsidiaries. Who the **** do you honestly think watches total shit like “2 Broke Girls”?

You just make up what you want, don't you?

Care to attempt to dispute anything I said?

Making up what you want is when you stupidly claim that Republicans watch reality tv shows as part of an of an ignorant wider narrative you have about Trump supporters.

You are the idiot who made this thread based on absolutely no sources or data of any kind.

My impressions of rabid Trump supporters is their character mimics, to a high degree, the loathesome character displayed by reality TV and pro wrestling.

Self centered, unable to recognize consequence and disrespectful to anyone who does not share their disdain for humility, nobility, honesty and decent behavior.

You make up your own 'truth' with no corroboration

 

[Nosmo King]

Why did America elect Donald Trump as President? His policies did not align with Republican orthodoxy. Republicans have championed free trade. Republicans have championed moral comportment of public personalities. Republicans have championed budgets that reduce the federal deficit.

So something about Trump's personality, his charisma have persuaded Center Right and far right voters. I believe it is the popular culture. That is to say the culture spawned by two regrettable factions in American culture namely reality television and professional wrestling.

In both of these factions, we find similar means of behavior. Sensationalism and violence. Trump's appeal appears to be driven by his off-the-cuff rhetoric that leans on driving fear, suspicion and division. The same rhetoric that drives reality TV and professional wrestling. Alliances to divide one faction from another are the stock and trade of reality RV shows. Trump is a reality TV star and brings that tactic to work every day.

Sensational canard laden rhetoric motivates the fans of reality TV as well as fans of professional wrestling. Most Americans take this with a healthy grain of salt. But to the low brow culture set who admires the fake nature of wrestling and the banal concerns of reality TV shows, sensational rhetoric from the president has appeal of a particularly dangerous quality. Those fans want the same level of behavior on the part of the head of state.

Is it then true that Trump supporters are not sufficiently cosmopolitan to see the hazards of reality TV/WWE behavior on behalf of the leader of our nation! Are we now under the influence of a generation that has forgotten virtues and favor vices?

I'm sure that you have been told this before, but you need to look no further than your own mirror for why Trump was elected President.

The continued nastiness from the left, and the spinelessness of the GOP to fight back are the only two real indicators you need to understand this.

Even to this day, the Democrats are giving the GOP lessons in "standing your ground". Proof? Look at Adam Schitt and his refusal to even acknowledge just what a lying piece of shit he is, and the rest of the Democrats are holding firm in backing him.


Would that the GOP had that kind of backbone, this country wouldn't have needed to elect someone like Trump.

How can you say the 'nastiness from the left' and not recognize the comportment of Trump? How can you say the 'nastiness of the left' and say Adam Schitt? How can you cite the spinelessness of the FOP when Merrick Garland never got a Senate hearing?

Because the nastiness from the left started a decade or more before Trump ever came onto the scene. The truth is, it is the 'nastiness' from the left, and the spinelessness of the GOP, that led to Trump's election.

And that's something we all regret.

 

[Nosmo King]

You Tards just don’t get it.....

We voted for Trump because we like what he stands for....

You Tards don’t like him because unlike the average ***** republican Trump Fights Back...

Trump is MAGA...….

We tardsmdon't like him because he is a phony, boorish brute unworthy of respect as he shows none himself.

Your examples pale in comparison to Trumps actions......

Trump is MAGA.....

I am curious, what did you think of bill clinton?

You seem like a decent, yet confused person.........

No, Nosmo is just another Democrat asshole.

Spoken like a wrestler.

Spoken like a child.

Q.E.D.

 

[ptbw forever]

No, idiot.

I took his non-existent “point”, fashioned it into a blunt weapon and smashed him over the head with it.

Not to mention the fact that reality shows have largely DEMOCRAT audiences and literally always have. Most Democrats are no longer even intelligent enough to understand what a debate actually is anyway.

Wrestlers smash things over people’s heads. Q.E.D.

Where did you find the information about the politics of reality TV audiences?

Reality TV started with shows like “Big Brother” on CBS and MTV shit like “Real world” and “Road Rules” aka 99.9999% Democrat audiences.

Just because you can find a few shows that largely are derogatory towards conservatives and rural people but yet have a significant minority of Republicans watching them like the Chrisley’s and such doesn’t mean that reality tv is not absolutely dominated by Democrat audiences.

Television in general is becoming exclusively watched by Democrats. No real conservative could watch the highly partisan or degenerate filth that lines the schedules of all 3 big networks and their subsidiaries. Who the **** do you honestly think watches total shit like “2 Broke Girls”?

You just make up what you want, don't you?

Care to attempt to dispute anything I said?

Making up what you want is when you stupidly claim that Republicans watch reality tv shows as part of an of an ignorant wider narrative you have about Trump supporters.

You are the idiot who made this thread based on absolutely no sources or data of any kind.

My impressions of rabid Trump supporters is their character mimics, to a high degree, the loathesome character displayed by reality TV and pro wrestling.

Self centered, unable to recognize consequence and disrespectful to anyone who does not share their disdain for humility, nobility, honesty and decent behavior.

You make up your own 'truth' with no corroboration

Everything I said is easily verifiable fact.

But you on the other hand just admitted that you made up everything that forms the basis of this thread. Everything you say is your own “truth” and largely laughably wrong.

If you hate reality tv and its characters then you hate Democrat shows created by Democrats with Democrat casts who play Democrat characters.

Next thing you dumbasses will claim is that conservatives are the audience of Hollywood....

 

[Darkwind]

Why did America elect Donald Trump as President? His policies did not align with Republican orthodoxy. Republicans have championed free trade. Republicans have championed moral comportment of public personalities. Republicans have championed budgets that reduce the federal deficit.

So something about Trump's personality, his charisma have persuaded Center Right and far right voters. I believe it is the popular culture. That is to say the culture spawned by two regrettable factions in American culture namely reality television and professional wrestling.

In both of these factions, we find similar means of behavior. Sensationalism and violence. Trump's appeal appears to be driven by his off-the-cuff rhetoric that leans on driving fear, suspicion and division. The same rhetoric that drives reality TV and professional wrestling. Alliances to divide one faction from another are the stock and trade of reality RV shows. Trump is a reality TV star and brings that tactic to work every day.

Sensational canard laden rhetoric motivates the fans of reality TV as well as fans of professional wrestling. Most Americans take this with a healthy grain of salt. But to the low brow culture set who admires the fake nature of wrestling and the banal concerns of reality TV shows, sensational rhetoric from the president has appeal of a particularly dangerous quality. Those fans want the same level of behavior on the part of the head of state.

Is it then true that Trump supporters are not sufficiently cosmopolitan to see the hazards of reality TV/WWE behavior on behalf of the leader of our nation! Are we now under the influence of a generation that has forgotten virtues and favor vices?

I'm sure that you have been told this before, but you need to look no further than your own mirror for why Trump was elected President.

The continued nastiness from the left, and the spinelessness of the GOP to fight back are the only two real indicators you need to understand this.

Even to this day, the Democrats are giving the GOP lessons in "standing your ground". Proof? Look at Adam Schitt and his refusal to even acknowledge just what a lying piece of shit he is, and the rest of the Democrats are holding firm in backing him.


Would that the GOP had that kind of backbone, this country wouldn't have needed to elect someone like Trump.

How can you say the 'nastiness from the left' and not recognize the comportment of Trump? How can you say the 'nastiness of the left' and say Adam Schitt? How can you cite the spinelessness of the FOP when Merrick Garland never got a Senate hearing?

Because the nastiness from the left started a decade or more before Trump ever came onto the scene. The truth is, it is the 'nastiness' from the left, and the spinelessness of the GOP, that led to Trump's election.

And that's something we all regret.

I didn't vote for him, but I don't regret his being elected.

We get the government we deserve.

 

[Slade3200]

That’s a fair critique and a good debate. The counter balance was that millions more got insurance and patients gained more protections. But affordability was pitched and promised and not delivered.

I for one wish the right would have worked with Dems on trying to help costs instead of the non stop “repeal and replace” BS. You can’t say that helped anything.

It helped me. I don't have to pay that Fn fine any longer.

How about instead of paying the fine you enroll for health insurance so we the tax payers don’t need to pay your hospital bills should you get into an accident?

How about not asking over 20% of my net pay to do it? Commie Care is a complete failure because it's only affordable to floor sweepers and french fry makers. For the middle-class working, it's unaffordable and junk policies to boot.

BTW, I had coverage my entire adult life until that big-eared Commie polluted the White House. So how about you voters be more cautious about who you elect so people like me could keep our healthcare?

How much were you paying before and what did it go up to? How much do you make a year?

I always had employer sponsored coverage; again, all of my life. We didn't pay anything towards it. It was 100% provided by my employer. When he canceled our insurance, he told us that it went up over 30% that year alone, and because of Commie Care, the agency he worked with told him that was just the start.

Keep your doctor? Keep your hospital? Well yeah, if you have the money. They only offered one company for my clinic (that I've been going to all of my life) and not only did it cost a ton of money, but it had a 7K deductible, 7K out of pocket, $50.00 office copay for doctors, no dental, no prescriptions.

In other words, unless I planned on getting hit by a bus, the policy was totally useless. Now I wouldn't mind paying on a catastrophic plan for $150.00 or $200.00 a month, but they wanted three times that amount for a garbage plan because I got very little government subsidies; like 20 bucks a month!

More distressful than that is government doesn't know your expenses. Sure, they ask some questions about your finances, but not nearly enough. They don't ask how much money you spend on gasoline to get to work every month, how much your mortgage or rent is, how much you pay on car and home/ apartment insurance, lease or loan amount on your car, prescription costs per month, what you currently spend on medical care, what you spend on utilities, what you spend on college loans for your kids........

Nope, they don't want to know. Big Brother says you make X amount of money, then Big Brother says you can afford health insurance. So it is said, so it is written.

Did your employer raise your pay after they dropped your healthcare?

 

[DustyInfinity]

This last gasp stuff because of racism and demographic change is frustrating. They are ignoring what is right in front of their face. The increasing power of a failed ideology(government power and control) vs individualism and freedom. For those who think it is about race, that is just sad. It is no big mystery that people will stand up for their right to be free. For all the social justice warriors who are hung up on race, you are not going to like what is coming. You end up with lawless tent cities and rich people like Bernie Sanders spouting empty virtues.

 

[whitehall]

Why do lefties live and breathe cliches? What the hell does the phrase "championed free trade mean"? China has been taking advantage of the U.S. in trade for decades and President Trump is the only president to try to rectify the situation.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It helped me. I don't have to pay that Fn fine any longer.

How about instead of paying the fine you enroll for health insurance so we the tax payers don’t need to pay your hospital bills should you get into an accident?

How about not asking over 20% of my net pay to do it? Commie Care is a complete failure because it's only affordable to floor sweepers and french fry makers. For the middle-class working, it's unaffordable and junk policies to boot.

BTW, I had coverage my entire adult life until that big-eared Commie polluted the White House. So how about you voters be more cautious about who you elect so people like me could keep our healthcare?

How much were you paying before and what did it go up to? How much do you make a year?

I always had employer sponsored coverage; again, all of my life. We didn't pay anything towards it. It was 100% provided by my employer. When he canceled our insurance, he told us that it went up over 30% that year alone, and because of Commie Care, the agency he worked with told him that was just the start.

Keep your doctor? Keep your hospital? Well yeah, if you have the money. They only offered one company for my clinic (that I've been going to all of my life) and not only did it cost a ton of money, but it had a 7K deductible, 7K out of pocket, $50.00 office copay for doctors, no dental, no prescriptions.

In other words, unless I planned on getting hit by a bus, the policy was totally useless. Now I wouldn't mind paying on a catastrophic plan for $150.00 or $200.00 a month, but they wanted three times that amount for a garbage plan because I got very little government subsidies; like 20 bucks a month!

More distressful than that is government doesn't know your expenses. Sure, they ask some questions about your finances, but not nearly enough. They don't ask how much money you spend on gasoline to get to work every month, how much your mortgage or rent is, how much you pay on car and home/ apartment insurance, lease or loan amount on your car, prescription costs per month, what you currently spend on medical care, what you spend on utilities, what you spend on college loans for your kids........

Nope, they don't want to know. Big Brother says you make X amount of money, then Big Brother says you can afford health insurance. So it is said, so it is written.

Did your employer raise your pay after they dropped your healthcare?

A little bit, but this genius plan by Obama didn't have provisions for that. You can't just cut somebody a check for what you were paying for their healthcare insurance.

He gave us a raise equal to the amount he was paying on our plan. However, whenever you given an employee a raise, it costs you much more than the raise itself. So he had to deduct how much more he had to pay us for vacations and holidays, how much more his unemployment and workman's compensation insurances increased by, he had to deduct for more contributions to Medicare and Social Security since the employer has to match whatever your contributions are. THEN, after all those deductions, we got what was left which again, was taxed as payroll tax.

Not much left in the end, and certainly not nearly enough to replace what we had before.

 

[whitehall]

The DOW hovers around 26,000, the GDP is around 4% and unemployment is at a historic record low but the crazy left manages to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory during a republican administration because they can't let go of their psychotic hatred and disappointment.

 

[Correll]

1. Won't sustain what?

2. When you down play the issues, to minimize or dismiss the legitimate issues of Trump supporters, you are insulting them. To them further dismiss them because they are then angry, does not look very good on you.

3. There is nothing wrong with enjoying someone who is willing to stand up to the lib bullies.

1. Won't sustain in voting size/percentage. I figured that was clear.
2. As I said, I'm looking at the macro level. There are the issues, and then there are the associated peripheral behaviors and actions.
3. Sure, nothing wrong with supporting his behaviors. That's up to you.
.

1. And then what happens?

2. And both are important and valid. Why are you pretending otherwise?

3. "HIs behaviors"? You act like before Trump we were operating by formal debate rules.

1. And then electoral victories become less frequent.
2. They are both important and valid. They are symbiotic. I'm not pretending anything.
3. Whatever you want to call it, you're welcome to support it.
.

Less frequent? That doesn't sound so bad. Is that really what you believe will happen?


Hardly justifies talk like"LAST gasp".


If the wins are one fourth of the time, instead of half, that is hardly "LAST" anything.

Semantics. I think there is a peak to this, and that we're seeing it. That's all.
.

I don't see how this is just "semantics".

I see and hear plenty of liberals talking similarly about US whites, or republicans or white men, or old white men, "dying off" or some such manifestation of being "gone".


That is some serious shit.


When you said, "Last gasp", those words had meaning.


Do you expect that once Minority America plus liberals reach a plurality, that Republicans, who represent the majority of white people in this country, will never again win national office, nor control the Congress and Supreme Court?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Do you expect that once Minority America plus liberals reach a plurality, that Republicans, who represent the majority of white people in this country, will never again win national office, nor control the Congress and Supreme Court?

I do. After all, the Democrat goal is to make whites a minority so they can have a single-party government forever. Every other group outside of whites, and particularly white males, votes for Democrats by majority or strong majority. We are in the way. That's why they're trying to get rid of us.

 

[Correll]

Do you expect that once Minority America plus liberals reach a plurality, that Republicans, who represent the majority of white people in this country, will never again win national office, nor control the Congress and Supreme Court?

I do. After all, the Democrat goal is to make whites a minority so they can have a single-party government forever. Every other group outside of whites, and particularly white males, votes for Democrats by majority or strong majority. We are in the way. That's why they're trying to get rid of us.

Obviously. And Mac knows it. He just didn't want to admit it. That is why he got all dodgey,


He is smart enough to see where I am going with this.


But he is still committed to being a liberal, even though he cannot defend what liberalism has become.

 

[Mac1958]

1. Won't sustain in voting size/percentage. I figured that was clear.
2. As I said, I'm looking at the macro level. There are the issues, and then there are the associated peripheral behaviors and actions.
3. Sure, nothing wrong with supporting his behaviors. That's up to you.
.

1. And then what happens?

2. And both are important and valid. Why are you pretending otherwise?

3. "HIs behaviors"? You act like before Trump we were operating by formal debate rules.

1. And then electoral victories become less frequent.
2. They are both important and valid. They are symbiotic. I'm not pretending anything.
3. Whatever you want to call it, you're welcome to support it.
.

Less frequent? That doesn't sound so bad. Is that really what you believe will happen?


Hardly justifies talk like"LAST gasp".


If the wins are one fourth of the time, instead of half, that is hardly "LAST" anything.

Semantics. I think there is a peak to this, and that we're seeing it. That's all.
.

I don't see how this is just "semantics".

I see and hear plenty of liberals talking similarly about US whites, or republicans or white men, or old white men, "dying off" or some such manifestation of being "gone".


That is some serious shit.


When you said, "Last gasp", those words had meaning.


Do you expect that once Minority America plus liberals reach a plurality, that Republicans, who represent the majority of white people in this country, will never again win national office, nor control the Congress and Supreme Court?

Okay, for clarity, I used the term "last gasp" as a metaphor, the way it's used 99.9% of the time.

My guess is that the GOP's power has peaked, assuming it continues on its present course. That would not mean that it would "never again win political office", it just means it would see fewer electoral victories.
.

 

[Mac1958]

Do you expect that once Minority America plus liberals reach a plurality, that Republicans, who represent the majority of white people in this country, will never again win national office, nor control the Congress and Supreme Court?

I do. After all, the Democrat goal is to make whites a minority so they can have a single-party government forever. Every other group outside of whites, and particularly white males, votes for Democrats by majority or strong majority. We are in the way. That's why they're trying to get rid of us.

Obviously. And Mac knows it. He just didn't want to admit it. That is why he got all dodgey,


He is smart enough to see where I am going with this.


But he is still committed to being a liberal, even though he cannot defend what liberalism has become.

I'm a left-leaning independent, but given the binary nature of political thought nowadays, you can call me a liberal or a commie or Hitler or whatever.

I actually don't see where you're going with this, so just make a clear point. Do you think your life is in danger?
.