Trump Crippled Iran Without Giving Them Another Iraq … So The Experts Moved The Goalposts And Called It Defeat

[cnm]

Trump Crippled Iran Without Giving Them Another Iraq … So The Experts Moved The Goalposts And Called It Defeat

The trouble is it's so hard to call it a victory when none of the goals set before the illegal war was started were achieved.

 

[Hafar1014]

GOP invaded Afghanistan.

Trump surrendered Afghanistan.

Biden was just dealing with the Trump f*ck up when he didn't guarantee safe passage in his surrender...

Your complaint is that Democrats couldn't clean up your mess fast enough.

Thats the fake world you live in. The good news is you dont matter

 

[CowboyTed]

He stopped it in 2025, but Iran kept pushing for nuclear weapons, trying to excavate the 460 kg of 60% enriched uranium. That "buried" enriched uranium is what the MOU is trying to negotiate out of Iran.

And where is US leverage?

Iran has time, They can close the strait and can wait US out of it...

You go to war to create leverage at the negotiating table, Trump lost the war, he is weaker now than at the start of the war...

The one thing that Iran has discovered is, they don't need Nukes now, they have drones... Drones and the ability to produce cheap ones is the new Nuke. Drones can be used a lot more effectively.

The main reason Trump might win, is Iran have discovered they can hold US hostage by drones in the strait...

 

[cnm]

I guess those MAGAts desperately seeking vindication of Chump's screw up are channelling JD, prepared to invent a story for the good of the country.

 

[Hafar1014]

He started the war... HE was clueless when he started it, and he effectually lost...

He kept Iranian Civilian casualties to a min because it is a war crime if he doesn't... BTW, he said that he wanted the Iranians to over throw their Government, with what...

The CIA are pretty good at that, did he think of using them?

Talking about cluesess youre the bets example of that. You live ina fantasy world so you dont have to face your failures.

 

[BlindBoo]

Trump is an astounding success. Your military leaders are the ones who managed the Afghanistan disaster.

"How about that? Worse than Afghanistan, where, by the way, I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn't stop the process.

Donald Trump: (22:53) 21 years is enough. Don't we think? 21 years. They couldn't stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process when other things...yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It's a shame."

 

[ColonelAngus]

What horseshit are you talking about?

In the normal world (i.e. outside MAGA) we critique each other all the time...

Trump has a sworn affidavit against him that he tried to rape a 13 year old girl and then beat her for not giving him a blowjob... This is on top of multiple accusations and convictions of sexual assault and rape.

Yet, where are the MAGA people asking questions about that?... His best friend was Epstein and he moved his accomplice who would know the facts of the case to a min security prison with special privileges... Get real...

Hey, fellow MAGAt. I you and support what you are doing. Just be a little less obvious in your trolls.

You are being too hyperbolically retarded.

Just pull back on the throttle a little bit with your false flag trolls.

 

[Dagosa]

TDS makes ignorant people stupid, candy is a great example.

ODS makes Trump a raving lunatic.

 

[kyzr]

By 15 October 2015 Iran fully implements PMD “roadmap” agreed with IAEA

• For 10 years approval of the purchase of dual-use materials by the Joint Commission working group
• For 25 years continuous monitoring of lran’s uranium mines and mills
• For 20 years continuous monitoring of lran’s centrifuge production facilities
• For 15 years Joint Commission oversight of IAEA access requests to inspect undeclared sites
• Permanent prohibition of certain weaponization-related activities
• Implementation and eventual ratification of an additional protocol to Iran’s safeguards agreement
• Permanent implementation of modified Code 3.1 of the Subsidiary Arrangements to its Safeguards Agreement
• For 25 years Joint Commission (composed of P5+1, EU and Iran for a total of 8 voting members) will hold quarterly meetings, or by request, to oversee the deal
• Dispute resolution mechanism within 35 days; 15-day dispute resolution mechanism within the Joint Commission, with optional 15-day ministerial review and/or arbitration opinion from a 3-member panel, followed by 5-day review of the arbitration opinion. If there is no resolution and the complaining party sees the action as “significant non-performance,’ the unresolved issue can be treated as grounds to cease performing commitments in whole or part, complaining party will notify UN Security Council.

You keep advocating for an Iranian regime that slaughters its people, does public hangings, spends its oil money on nothing but advanced weapons systems and terrorism proxies. Not to mention its ICBM program.
You can defend them all you want, but you are on the wrong side, as usual.

 

[jknowgood]

ODS makes Trump a raving lunatic.

Lol, Obama doesn't deserve to wipe Trump's ass. Trump made Obama obsolete in his first term.

 

[Marener]

Lol, Obama doesn't deserve to wipe Trump's ass. Trump made Obama obsolete in his first term.

Leave it to MAGA cultists to assert that wiping Trump's ass is an honor bestowed upon those who are worthy.

 

[kyzr]

would have ended ? Now you’re rewriting history to explain Trumps incompetence. He mishandles every action he takes. From tariffs to bombing Iran, all ends in a disaster with record deficit greater than even his first admin. What a buffoon. President Trumps envoy will make up shitz on demand, just like Trump does. No one in the history civilization has had a president, that is as corrupt and lies like this asshole.

You can keep advocating for an Iranian regime that slaughters its people, does public hangings, spends its oil money on nothing but advanced weapons systems and terrorism proxies. Not to mention its ICBM program.
You can defend them and attack Trump all you want, but you are on the wrong side, as usual.
Democrats are the worst, yes, even worse than Trump...

 

[kyzr]

The trouble is it's so hard to call it a victory when none of the goals set before the illegal war was started were achieved.

its not over 'til its over...

 

[jknowgood]

Leave it to MAGA cultists to assert that wiping Trump's ass is an honor bestowed upon those who are worthy.

Actually it was a crack at Obama, TDS is real.

 

[kyzr]

And where is US leverage?

blockade, sanctions, & bombing.

Iran has time, They can close the strait and can wait US out of it...

Actually no. The US has channels closer to Oman that Iran can't see.

You go to war to create leverage at the negotiating table, Trump lost the war, he is weaker now than at the start of the war...

..yeah okay, except the war isn't over.

The one thing that Iran has discovered is, they don't need Nukes now, they have drones... Drones and the ability to produce cheap ones is the new Nuke. Drones can be used a lot more effectively.

True. But the US bombed their drone factories, and if Iran gets too pushy we can destroy their powerplants.

The main reason Trump might win, is Iran have discovered they can hold US hostage by drones in the strait...

If you say so, but their drones are generally shot down.

 

[berg80]

its not over 'til its over...

True. Iran could renege on any agreement leadership makes, as Dotard did.

 

[Marener]

blockade, sanctions, & bombing.

Actually no. The US has channels closer to Oman that Iran can't see.

..yeah okay, except the war isn't over.

True. But the US bombed their drone factories, and if Iran gets too pushy we can destroy their powerplants.

If you say so, but their drones are generally shot down.

There's a HUGE difference between "most" and "all" when it comes to suicide drones.

 

[berg80]

Actually no. The US has channels closer to Oman that Iran can't see.

Not one big enough to get ship traffic thru the Strait anywhere near where it was or where it needs to be.

 

[citygator]

Trump Crippled Iran Without Giving Them Another Iraq …​

So The Experts Moved The Goalposts And Called It Defeat​

The Shifting Persian Goalposts

Isn’t it clear that no deal will ever be good enough to appease the Trump haters?

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19 Jun 2026 ~~ By Capt. Seth Keshel

Longtime readers of Captain K’s Corner understand that I prefer to view the world as it is, rather than how I wish it would be. Do you remember last month, when everyone was salivating over polling showing two Republican candidates (Hilton and Bianco) atop the gubernatorial polls, with less than 15% each?

Oh wow, we’re gonna wind up with two Republican candidates for governor this year because there are too many Dems running!​

Remember how I felt about that?

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Eric Swalwell was clearly pushed out of the race from the Democrat side (by his own people) to prevent the dual-GOP scenario from happening. And then, even if all other machinations failed, the ballot counting machine would have taken as long as possible to ensure the party didn’t get locked out of running its own state. In the end, Steve Hilton made it to the General Election, and by less than 2 points over third-place candidate Tom Steyer – with roughly 83,000 ballots left to count nearly three weeks since Election Day.
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Eric Swalwell was clearly pushed out of the race from the Democrat side (by his own people) to prevent the dual-GOP scenario from happening. And then, even if all other machinations failed, the ballot counting machine would have taken as long as possible to ensure the party didn’t get locked out of running its own state. In the end, Steve Hilton made it to the General Election, and by less than 2 points over third-place candidate Tom Steyer – with roughly 83,000 ballots left to count nearly three weeks since Election Day.
An excerpt:

My admonition to all is to tune out the negative voices and the whiners who are trying to stop President Trump from advancing toward a deal. I had hopes the Iranian regime would be rooted out, but once again, it’s not America’s job to do the dying necessary, and without willing partners ready to put boots on ground while we remain at sea and in the air, it’s a non-starter. The best outcome, then, from this point forward looks like the rumored framework of the deal:​

• Strait of Hormuz immediately reopened with de-mining underway
• Iran gives up uranium enrichment, hands over any stockpiles, and provides access to outside inspectors to ensure their end of the agreement is held up
• Iran, pending satisfactory fulfillment of above points, gets a break on sanctions and an opportunity for the new chain of command to advance the nation’s standing in the world

Earlier this week, President Trump inked an agreement to bring about the cessation of hostilities and establish the framework for regional stability. Yet many of the voices who encouraged the early kinetic actions against Iran are now screeching because the bombs are on hold (for now), and on the flip side of the coin, the loudest voices for non-interventionism are repeating online vomit and half-truths to mock Trump for supposedly waving a white flag.
The goalposts for what defines success are constantly being moved.
Now it is time for a reality check on the way the world is, and why the deal is what it is:
The goalposts for what defines success are constantly being moved.
Now it is time for a reality check on the way the world is, and why the deal is what it is:

 

[berg80]

It should be clear to all D's by now that the spin doctoring from the regime on the Iran agreement, no matter what it includes, will be described as a win. And the minions will fall in line as they do with every dishonest, soul crushing narrative it lies about.