trump claims he told NATO country he would not protect them if Russia attacked them

[surada]

You're an idiot.


...and you're so fucking stupid that you have no fucking clue that you're an idiot.

Suck on Tommy's cock, moron.

Fat boy also threatened Taylor Swift. Be a man.. you simply can't be this stupid.

 

[beagle9]

As I had already stated: No it doesn't make sense at all to "read" into Trumps mind nor thoughts. Since you yourself place the question if Trump can be taken seriously. No he can't, he is a loudmouth, a dilettante wannabe politician who lies all the way - simply trying to garner votes from those that are defying the US Democrats policy as a whole.

See my above statement.
Ukraine is NOT a proxy war - it is a classic war caused via US hegemonic interests (vital for the USA and it's economy). The EU has it's own hegemonic interests towards Ukraine/Russia - clearly evident via the joint policy of the EU and the USA towards the Eastward Expansion of NATO. (The latter foremost driven by the USA) That Russia also has it's vital hegemonic interests - especially next to it's own border (not 6000 mls away like the USA), is understood.

Long before Russia attacked Ukraine, the EU and the USA have been training and enforcing/upgrading the UAF. Following the exact same concept as in regards to Croatia - therefore being able to soundly defeat Serbia. Ukraine was to follow the exact same pattern - however Putin was faster - aka attacked (around 2-3 years, BEFORE the Ukraine could effectively pose a serious military danger.

Take a guess - don't you think it's obvious that any Russian will look at it this way?

The USA and the EU wanted it that way, and therefore caused a war. Does Trump have a valid alternative to US foreign policy that has been solely using it's military strength since 1898 to enforce it's hegemonic global interests? - NO absolutely not - see his dilettante trade-war with China, and his total inability to deal with countries such as Iran, Russia, China, Afghanistan, etc. etc.

He is backstabbing US global hegemonic interests (the very ones that provided the $$ for the American lifestyle since 1898) without having the slightest idea as how to maintain it. Or an alternative foreign policy that would replace military enforcement with .....?? He is simply fucking up the USA, with propagated loudmoth garbage and his crowd cheers him on.

The USA's internal political issues - pro LGBT or in definace of LGBT, pro gun or anti-gun, teaching genderism or not in school, sex-change issues pertaing to sports - have no say or matter in international policy. However Trump is using every single topic to garner votes - whilst endangering world peace and screwing up the USA's position and it's standing in the world. Just to again "play" president, get his golfplay paid for, whilst jetting the Globe with Airforce One to conduct his very own private business and get off scot-free for his crimes.

NATO has relentlessly backed every single US military escapade (aside from WMD in Iraq) They even bought in and thus support this idiotic war in Afghanistan. Why do you think that NATO troops are e.g. in Africa? Because US global hegemonic interests, do not allow for Russia to gain influence in Africa. However it is the USA that did not support European NATO members in regards to e.g. Falklands, the Suez-crisis, Greece being attacked by Turkey, or in regards to Libya.

What is a "fair share"? who came up with this 2% Guideline? Solely the USA, that was spending at average 5% to maintain it's very own vital global hegemonic interests. From 1990 till 2022 - the European NATO outspend Russia by a factor of 7:1 annually, - they need 2% for what??

It is solely the USA that can't afford to compete with China on it's own whilst taking care of all it's other global hegemonic interests - therefore they seek relief/support via the European NATO - since it is evident that the European NATO has jumped onto the bandwagon led by the USA to counter China - WTF is a German frigate, patrolling 12,000 mls away, the South-China Sea for??? WTF do German Eurofighters need to fly 10000 mls away, to Australia for??? WTF is a German frigate patrolling the Red-Sea for???, None of these areas has anything to do with NATO. And only for this purpose, (support US global hegemonic interests) the European NATO needs to increase it's "defense" budget.

WE EUROPEANS are supposed to pay for the US military!!! - to ensure US global supremacy. Get your facts straight, mate.

Trump did NOTHING to keep Ukraine neutral, he did nothing to get the USA and it's allies out of Afghanistan in an appropriate way - his Taliban talks, made NATO and the USA look as stupid as never before. He compromised the unity between the European NATO and the USA with his "fake bill" bull, already years before now even encouraging others to attack NATO members.

Did he pull out US troops in Syria? and Africa - the US engagement in Syria is in breach of international law. He even made the way free for Iran and N-Korea to pursue their nuke ambitions. He was unable to get into an agreement with Russia and China to restrict medium range missiles, or any kind of agreement in favor for the USA or Europe. Do you have any idea as to how much the USA spends every year for a hopeless and totally inefective conducted anti-guerilla war in the Philippines since the 80'ies ???

There is absolutely no need to debate about Trump - since MAGA's simply adhere to whatever bull he propagates, which he does solely in order to give MAGA's the "impression" that he cares about their existing worries or demands. That are ALL well known since the "unrest" that occurred in the USA, since a Mulatto became US President. (Trump simply makes use of the existing known discontent, to garner votes) He doesn't give a rats ass about their "wants" - only HIS personal financial and ego wants.

Having said that, let me add; I am in no way in agreement with the policy of the US Democrats, who are just as corrupt and crime ridden as Trump and the GOP - and all are open to manipulation by Lefty/Libs to solely ensure their power aka their "jobs" and income.

Human scumbag Trump is supposed to change all that to the better??? - and is supposedly able and willing to do that?? - keep kidding yourself, whilst he is totally screwing up of what is left of the USA.

My favorite photo of him - demonstrating his dishonest human scumbag character, to the entire world, whilst taking MAGA's for a ride.

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Then who ? Who can become the long ranger or the so called super hero that will come and save the day for America ???? According to your long dragged on response, it appears that their is none qualified that would turn to us and lead now, otherwise in hopes to represent the USA like it should be.... Right ?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

what percent does Russia spend? and quit comparing the entire alliance as if it were one country. The fact is that individually most nations in the EU have pitiful militaries.

OR

Maybe we just spend a lot more on ours. Like, a LOT more.

Which we have done by choice. America has been the beacon of democracy since WW2. Zero countries invaded and conquered.

Yes, I know, someone's going to lose it over that. No America is not perfect. We have some coups here and there that we helped out. But that is not invading and conquering.

 

[Kruska]

Then who ? Who can become the long ranger or the so called super hero that will come and save the day for America ???? According to your long dragged on response, it appears that their is none qualified that would turn to us and lead now, otherwise in hopes to represent the USA like it should be.... Right ?

Correct, neither senile Biden and the Democrats (manipulated by elitists, and Lefty/Lib radicals) nor a Pathological fraudster and the Republicans (manipulated by elites and right-wing radicals) are able to change the USA to the better.

Whilst the Democrats are going to continue to dismantle conservative views and laws - the Republicans are going to strengthen the wallets of elitists and dismantle or reject Liberal and lefty/Lib views and laws.

And this process is taking place in ALL Western democracies, latest since the 60'ies. And what they ALL lack, are competent governments that act in the interest of the respective nations population. Simply because a single party in a fake democracy will never be able to represent ALL peoples interests.

The only system that can "guarantee" that, is a "true" democracy (See Switzerland) - who's policy is controlled via it's population, aka, plebiscites. And Peoples Referendums are decided upon by a MAJORITY amongst the ENTIRE population. And not by MINORITIES manipulating the respective mainstream parties.

Since to my knowledge their isn't a single US party around that promotes a Peoples Referendum - aka a "true" democracy - the Americans at present can only chose between a senile Biden and his Democrats that are manipulated/corrupted by Lefty/Libs and their respective elites, and will therefore further a slow decline of the USA - or a total incompetent loudmouth called Trump who will screw up the USA way faster then the Democrats.

BTW - in Germany at present, two parties (the new Liberal/left BSW) and the rather new Conservative party AFD, behold at least the "promise" - outlook towards a German government, that is run via Peoples Referendums, independent of their propagated policies.

That both these parties are therefore massively attacked, vilified and scrutinized by those established mainstream parties is understood.

 

[surada]

Your Orange Baboon-God is unfit for office and dangerous to the Republic... even if he IS promising things that I want.

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[beagle9]

Correct, neither senile Biden and the Democrats (manipulated by elitists, and Lefty/Lib radicals) nor a Pathological fraudster and the Republicans (manipulated by elites and right-wing radicals) are able to change the USA to the better.

Whilst the Democrats are going to continue to dismantle conservative views and laws - the Republicans are going to strengthen the wallets of elitists and dismantle or reject Liberal and lefty/Lib views and laws.

And this process is taking place in ALL Western democracies, latest since the 60'ies. And what they ALL lack, are competent governments that act in the interest of the respective nations population. Simply because a single party in a fake democracy will never be able to represent ALL peoples interests.

The only system that can "guarantee" that, is a "true" democracy (See Switzerland) - who's policy is controlled via it's population, aka, plebiscites. And Peoples Referendums are decided upon by a MAJORITY amongst the ENTIRE population. And not by MINORITIES manipulating the respective mainstream parties.

Since to my knowledge their isn't a single US party around that promotes a Peoples Referendum - aka a "true" democracy - the Americans at present can only chose between a senile Biden and his Democrats that are manipulated/corrupted by Lefty/Libs and their respective elites, and will therefore further a slow decline of the USA - or a total incompetent loudmouth called Trump who will screw up the USA way faster then the Democrats.

BTW - in Germany at present, two parties (the new Liberal/left BSW) and the rather new Conservative party AFD, behold at least the "promise" - outlook towards a German government, that is run via Peoples Referendums, independent of their propagated policies.

That both these parties are therefore massively attacked, vilified and scrutinized by those established mainstream parties is understood.

But if the people are the problem, well then what ? Nothing work's anymore right ?? Conservatism is the only hope, otherwise if enough true conservatives are actually left. This is just my opinion..... As you pointed out - the leftist are absolutely not the answer.....

Loud mouth Trump (going by his previous record), did no harm while president, and infact created a lot of good whilst stopping a lot of bad which is why that bad hates him to this day.

The Covid thing needed to be analyzed to the max, otherwise in order to somehow find out it's origins, the lie's, and was there a connection involved for political reasons ??? If it is found that connections were involved, then arrest should be made and severe sanctions implemented on China for killing literally millions of the world's population for a political reasoning that got way out of control.

Fresh faces were hoped for in the 2024 race, but it could be that they have slid beneath the waves, and only a few remain who are being held up by certain interest group's. So it comes down to "who in those interests group's will do the lesser evil and the lesser harm to America once empowered ? Seems easy enough to figure this out.

 

[Kruska]

But if the people are the problem, well then what ? Nothing work's anymore right ?? Conservatism is the only hope, otherwise if enough true conservatives are actually left. This is just my opinion..... As you pointed out - the leftist are absolutely not the answer.....

All these Fake democracies have created an impenetrable political swamp since the 60'ies. The only solutions towards that issue that I can see are,
a.) Peoples referendums (favored by me), as such the people deciding upon policies and laws - and not some bunch of politicians and their elitist buddies.
b.) An autocratic system - which however in vast majority always ends up being led by some gone nuts dictator. And due to the evolving sociopolitical culture in Western countries since around 100 years - simply not suitable nor feasible.

Loud mouth Trump (going by his previous record), did no harm while president, and infact created a lot of good whilst stopping a lot of bad which is why that bad hates him to this day.

This is were you and I will absolutely disagree. IMO Trump did NOTHING of worth that factually changed the internal US problematic situation positively - aside from factually escalating, as such worsening it - and he certainly worsened the US foreign relations (which are absolutely vital - for the economic layout) that the USA beholds. Trump was absolutely a full partner in regards to NATO's eastward-expansion initiated by Bush sen. in 1990 - he didn't undertake anything to avoid a further military escalation conducted by Russia. Therefore now to simply blame senile Biden and/or the Democrats, is simply dishonest and ludicrous.

Trump was the one who totally escalated the Israel/Palestinian situation via - acknowledging Jerusalem to be the new capital and further by acknowledging that the Golan heights are Israeli territory. Now blaming senile Biden for supporting a long time US ally (supported by ALL US mainstream parties) since the mid/end 60'ies - initiated by a Republican (Nixon) - again only demonstrates his dishonesty towards facts and his own screw-ups. And if senile Biden calls onto Israel to refrain from war-crimes - you got these mentally depraved pro-Israel warmongers (mostly Republicans) falsely accusing Biden and the Democrats of "supposedly" favoring Hamas and Muslims.

Trumps China-Tariffs absolutely backfired onto the US consumer - and the reduction of investments towards China were simply compensated via increased investments in e.g. Vietnam and foremost Mexico - providing jobs for Americans in the USA??? you got to be kidding.
Trumps non-existent economic understanding only caused a world-wide recession - were no one profits from.

His total inability to handle Covid (thus directly responsible for the death of a million Americans) - further worsened the world-economic situation. He was the one to finance the US pharmaceutical industry with billions to come up with vaccines - now foremost ignorant MAGA's blaming senile Biden for supposed deaths caused by vaccines. I am however in no way indicating that a Biden/Democrat led government would have done a better job.

To stop an epidemic in "democratic" countries is basically impossible - due to people japing about restriction of personal freedom. Which however has no say or implications onto the Trump administration, from securing it's borders, towards potential virus carriers efficiently - Which he did way to late. Instead he focused onto Covid solely as a political tool to have a go at China, and initiating the "conspiracy theory" of the Wuhan lab. Simply becasue he was fully aware that previous US and his own administration were financing virus research in e.g. Wuhan and dozens of other places on the globe.

The Covid thing needed to be analyzed to the max, otherwise in order to somehow find out it's origins, the lie's, and was there a connection involved for political reasons ??? If it is found that connections were involved, then arrest should be made and severe sanctions implemented on China for killing literally millions of the world's population for a political reasoning that got way out of control.

China had made no secret out of Covid - everyone was duly informed and vital information was shared (at the most one can blame China for having delayed it's own response for 1-2 weeks) Which doesn't come as a surprise - being faced with an unknown virus and no one possibly having an idea about it's "possible" spread and impact at the time.

That more or less ALL countries, aside from China, Taiwan and Vietnam failed miserably to protect their respective citizens isn't China's fault. I was absolutely flabbergasted when people who had traveled to e.g. Italy and Germany in February/March - reported that not even simple fever measuring devices had been installed at the respective airports. (I am working and living in China since 20 years).

Fresh faces were hoped for in the 2024 race, but it could be that they have slid beneath the waves, and only a few remain who are being held up by certain interest group's. So it comes down to "who in those interests group's will do the lesser evil and the lesser harm to America once empowered ? Seems easy enough to figure this out.

AFAIK, the only "fresh" face is this Kennedy nut.
As for senile Biden - I would say that the ongoing court cases and thus possible rulings against Trump, will most likely decide if the Democrats might replace Biden with another candidate or follow through with him, and/or thus the same might apply towards the Republicans. Which in IMO would be Great for America - since only a "professional" Republican candidate that understands politics and economy (unlike Trump) can stop this Democrat Lefty/Lib plague.

However I wouldn't be surprised if the "planed/envisaged" timeline by the Democrats to rid/prevent Trump of an election campaign, will make it impossible for the Republicans to come up with a "popular" alternative candidate. Trump made sure (all by himself) that any Republican candidate has been discredited and therefore de-popularized.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He is describing treason.

Everyone gets this, I hope.

 

[beagle9]

All these Fake democracies have created an impenetrable political swamp since the 60'ies. The only solutions towards that issue that I can see are,
a.) Peoples referendums (favored by me), as such the people deciding upon policies and laws - and not some bunch of politicians and their elitist buddies.
b.) An autocratic system - which however in vast majority always ends up being led by some gone nuts dictator. And due to the evolving sociopolitical culture in Western countries since around 100 years - simply not suitable nor feasible.

This is were you and I will absolutely disagree. IMO Trump did NOTHING of worth that factually changed the internal US problematic situation positively - aside from factually escalating, as such worsening it - and he certainly worsened the US foreign relations (which are absolutely vital - for the economic layout) that the USA beholds. Trump was absolutely a full partner in regards to NATO's eastward-expansion initiated by Bush sen. in 1990 - he didn't undertake anything to avoid a further military escalation conducted by Russia. Therefore now to simply blame senile Biden and/or the Democrats, is simply dishonest and ludicrous.

Trump was the one who totally escalated the Israel/Palestinian situation via - acknowledging Jerusalem to be the new capital and further by acknowledging that the Golan heights are Israeli territory. Now blaming senile Biden for supporting a long time US ally (supported by ALL US mainstream parties) since the mid/end 60'ies - initiated by a Republican (Nixon) - again only demonstrates his dishonesty towards facts and his own screw-ups. And if senile Biden calls onto Israel to refrain from war-crimes - you got these mentally depraved pro-Israel warmongers (mostly Republicans) falsely accusing Biden and the Democrats of "supposedly" favoring Hamas and Muslims.

Trumps China-Tariffs absolutely backfired onto the US consumer - and the reduction of investments towards China were simply compensated via increased investments in e.g. Vietnam and foremost Mexico - providing jobs for Americans in the USA??? you got to be kidding.
Trumps non-existent economic understanding only caused a world-wide recession - were no one profits from.

His total inability to handle Covid (thus directly responsible for the death of a million Americans) - further worsened the world-economic situation. He was the one to finance the US pharmaceutical industry with billions to come up with vaccines - now foremost ignorant MAGA's blaming senile Biden for supposed deaths caused by vaccines. I am however in no way indicating that a Biden/Democrat led government would have done a better job.

To stop an epidemic in "democratic" countries is basically impossible - due to people japing about restriction of personal freedom. Which however has no say or implications onto the Trump administration, from securing it's borders, towards potential virus carriers efficiently - Which he did way to late. Instead he focused onto Covid solely as a political tool to have a go at China, and initiating the "conspiracy theory" of the Wuhan lab. Simply becasue he was fully aware that previous US and his own administration were financing virus research in e.g. Wuhan and dozens of other places on the globe.


China had made no secret out of Covid - everyone was duly informed and vital information was shared (at the most one can blame China for having delayed it's own response for 1-2 weeks) Which doesn't come as a surprise - being faced with an unknown virus and no one possibly having an idea about it's "possible" spread and impact at the time.

That more or less ALL countries, aside from China, Taiwan and Vietnam failed miserably to protect their respective citizens isn't China's fault. I was absolutely flabbergasted when people who had traveled to e.g. Italy and Germany in February/March - reported that not even simple fever measuring devices had been installed at the respective airports. (I am working and living in China since 20 years).

AFAIK, the only "fresh" face is this Kennedy nut.
As for senile Biden - I would say that the ongoing court cases and thus possible rulings against Trump, will most likely decide if the Democrats might replace Biden with another candidate or follow through with him, and/or thus the same might apply towards the Republicans. Which in IMO would be Great for America - since only a "professional" Republican candidate that understands politics and economy (unlike Trump) can stop this Democrat Lefty/Lib plague.

However I wouldn't be surprised if the "planed/envisaged" timeline by the Democrats to rid/prevent Trump of an election campaign, will make it impossible for the Republicans to come up with a "popular" alternative candidate. Trump made sure (all by himself) that any Republican candidate has been discredited and therefore de-popularized.

You still skip over the very essence of the problems being faced (the citizen's gone rogue), and you are deflecting from the questions that have become the very core issues without consideration of the solutions that are needed. You ignore all the workings that made Trump appear as if he was at fault for many thing's, but in retrospect he was a victim of a system that had turned against the Americans for whom he attempted to stand for. Take his border stance early on for example, otherwise in which the Democrat's attempted to leverage in their favor against him (backfired on the Left), and the race card used against him, and every other political stunt and card used against him by the Democrat's or leftists, and the picture has become clear.

You blame Trump which is suspect and highly convenient for a would be Democrat.

Blaming or attempting to blame Trump for him trying to fix America for American's as if that was somehow wrong, ummm didn't work, and it has since backfired on those who attempted it.