Trump can win on the issues

[candycorn]

1. These are the real deficit numbers. What you can't get around is the FACT that inflation under Trump was 1% and the inflation under Biden averages 6%. Look at Biden's budget $7.3T and Trump's $4T. See why inflation skyrocketed under Biden, spending too much?

Biden’s 2025 Budget is $7.30T with a $1.8T deficit______TOTAL BIDEN $6.9T
Biden’s 2024 Budget was $7.30T with a $2.0T deficit
Biden's 2023 Budget was $6.13T with a $1.7T deficit
Biden's 2022 Budget was $6.27T with a $1.4T deficit
Trump's 2021 Budget was $6.82T with a $2.8T deficit___ TOTAL TRUMP $7.6T (actual)
Trump's 2020 Budget was $6.55T with a $3.1T deficit
Trump's 2019 Budget was $4.40T with a $0.9T deficit
Trump's 2018 Budget was $4.10T with a $0.8T deficit

2. Corporate profits were about the same under Trump and Biden.

We were talking about your blob; not Biden. Trump ran up $8T in new debt in 4 years. That is a fact. Stop trying to weasel out of it.

As for your anecdote about corporate profits, you're lying as usual:

Corporate profits hit record high as economy boomed in fourth quarter of 2023

Gross domestic product (GDP) and corporate profits both smashed expectations in the fourth quarter of 2023 as the knock-on effects of pandemic stimulus juiced the U.S. economy. GDP came in at a 3.4…

thehill.com

So, boy, again...tell us how the corporations are not making a killing. They're keeping prices artificially high because they can.

 

[Moonglow]

The libs here are giddy with confidence

But Victor Davis Hanson likes Trump’s chances

Is that the issue you mentioned in the thread title?

 

[Mac-7]

Is that the issue you mentioned in the thread title?

It doesent have to be if Wahl corrects the record

You will probably think I’m lying, but my first impression of Wahl was favorable based on reports that he was a retired CSM

Then the ugly truth came out

 

[Moonglow]

It doesent have to be if Wahl corrects the record

You will probably think I’m lying, but my first impression of Wahl was favorable based on reports that he was a retired CSM

Then the ugly truth came out

Yeah, I suppose, yet at least he served his nation unlike Trump.

 

[krichton]

1. Open borders let 12,000,000 illegals into the US. That is a major increase in "demand" for food and housing. By the Law of "supply and demand" prices need to rise, and they are. Open borders and increased federal spending created the inflation.

2. Prove corporate greed is causing inflation. The price of gas makes shipping everything more expensive. That is caused by the "war on energy" the closing of ANWR and the stopping of the KeystoneXL pipeline. New wells need to replace old wells as they draw down.

1. The Average Cost of Grocery Staples When Trump Was President

Tell me again how illegals and federal spending created inflation. At this point yall are just making things up as you go

2. Inflation has been a global problem since the pandemic.

Under the Biden administration more oil and gas has been produced than in our entire history, include the entire Trump presidency. No country in the world has produced more. How can there be a "war on energy" when Biden has approved more drilling permits than even Trump? You see how easy it is to factcheck fairytales?

 

[there4eyeM]

Someone could win running against the limitations of Harris et al. The problem is that someone could win doing the same thing to Trump. It is easy to dislike both of them; difficult to be "for" either. Poor America! So lost in the grip of the binary dictatorship.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

1. Trump plans to deport most of the 12,000,000 illegals.

No, he won't.

2. Yes really. Biden added $6.9T, Trump added $7.6T based on the approved Budgets. Your point was?
Biden’s 2025 Budget is $7.30T with a $1.8T deficit______TOTAL BIDEN $6.9T (in theory)
Biden’s 2024 Budget was $7.30T with a $2.0T deficit
Biden's 2023 Budget was $6.13T with a $1.7T deficit
Biden's 2022 Budget was $6.27T with a $1.4T deficit
Trump's 2021 Budget was $6.82T with a $2.8T deficit___ TOTAL TRUMP $7.6T (actual)
Trump's 2020 Budget was $6.55T with a $3.1T deficit
Trump's 2019 Budget was $4.40T with a $0.9T deficit

Fake news.

3. Corporate profits do not cause inflation. Trump had massive corporate profits too, yet inflation was low.

4. Biden's admin increased regulations and costs of drilling new oil wells. That is why the price of gas is high and rising.

Biden Administration Updates Decades-Old Rules On Oil And Gas Drilling On Federal Lands

The administration is also reportedly planning to issue a rule that would limit oil drilling in Alaska.

www.forbes.com

"Gas and oil companies drilling on public lands in the U.S. will have to pay $150,000 per lease on federally owned lands, an exponential increase of the $10,000 bond amount that’s been in place for decades, according to a rule finalized Friday from the Bureau of Land Management."

Oil drilling on federal land makes up only 10% of oil leases.

 

[kyzr]

We were talking about your blob; not Biden. Trump ran up $8T in new debt in 4 years. That is a fact. Stop trying to weasel out of it.

As for your anecdote about corporate profits, you're lying as usual:

So, boy, again...tell us how the corporations are not making a killing. They're keeping prices artificially high because they can.

1. We are comparing Trump to Biden/Harris dumbass. We need to choose the better president.

2. Trump and Biden ran up similar Debt numbers, don't just look at Trump. Biden spent almost DOUBLE what Trump spent in budgets. That is what caused inflation, overspending. How do I know? Because Trump's inflation was 1%, and Biden's was 6%, duh. Inflation under Biden added 20% to the price of everything, except wages.

3. So why are corporate profits so much higher under Biden than under Trump? Biden's bloated budgets and over-spending caused inflation and inflated corporate profits, duh.

Corporate Profits After Tax (without IVA and CCAdj)

Graph and download economic data for Corporate Profits After Tax (without IVA and CCAdj) (CP) from Q1 1947 to Q3 2025 about CCADJ, IVA, corporate profits, tax, corporate, GDP, and USA.

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[kyzr]

1. The Average Cost of Grocery Staples When Trump Was President

Tell me again how illegals and federal spending created inflation. At this point yall are just making things up as you go

2. Inflation has been a global problem since the pandemic.

Under the Biden administration more oil and gas has been produced than in our entire history, include the entire Trump presidency. No country in the world has produced more. How can there be a "war on energy" when Biden has approved more drilling permits than even Trump? You see how easy it is to factcheck fairytales?

1. Inflation was 1% under Trump. US Families are getting crushed by "Bidenflation" of about 25% over 4-years.

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics, Republican analysis finds

Compared with 2021, the typical household must spend an additional $11,434 annually just to maintain their standard of living, analysis shows.

www.cbsnews.com

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics, Republican analysis finds​

2. Inflation varies country by country, duh.

3. Gas was $1.87 under Trump and is $4 under Biden. Biden added regulations and fees that increased the cost of drilling.
Biden rule hikes fees for oil projects on public lands
The bonding requirements for development increased to $150,000 from $10,000, a level set in 1960 that no longer covers potential cleanup costs, the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) said in a press release.

 

[kyzr]

No, he won't.

Fake news.

Oil drilling on federal land makes up only 10% of oil leases.

1. Prove he won't deport millions of illegals. He said he will.

2. Google the annual Federal Budgets in wiki, dumbass. Those are real numbers.

3. Biden added tons of regulations that adds to the cost of oil and gas, that's why gas went from $1.87 under Trump to $4 under Biden.

 

[Foolardi]

And here’s Trump still not talking about the issues

I never liked Rogan.I don't care how mush Alex Jones props
his buddy Joe ... up.
I also don't buy this bidness how tough the guy is.
yes,he worked out so much with weights he's a veritable
muscle head.But I need to find out if he ever earned a
Letter in High School { sports }. I don't think he had.
Here's the deal.Many Kids who never earned a letter in High
School took up Karate.So Karate is not a sport but an excuse.
Pro Football Players aren't interested in Karate.
Now Wrestlers are tough.Don't confuse wrestlers with
Karate types.

 

[krichton]

1. Inflation was 1% under Trump. US Families are getting crushed by "Bidenflation" of about 25% over 4-years.

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics, Republican analysis finds

Compared with 2021, the typical household must spend an additional $11,434 annually just to maintain their standard of living, analysis shows.

www.cbsnews.com

Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics, Republican analysis finds​

2. Inflation varies country by country, duh.

3. Gas was $1.87 under Trump and is $4 under Biden. Biden added regulations and fees that increased the cost of drilling.
Biden rule hikes fees for oil projects on public lands
The bonding requirements for development increased to $150,000 from $10,000, a level set in 1960 that no longer covers potential cleanup costs, the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) said in a press release.

2009	2.70%	0.25%	June trough (-2.6%)	American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
2010	1.50%	0.25%	Expansion (2.7%)	Affordable Care Act; Dodd-Frank Act
2011	3.00%	0.25%	Expansion (1.6%)	Debt ceiling crisis
2012	1.70%	0.25%	Expansion (2.3%)
2013	1.50%	0.25%	Expansion (2.1%)	Government shutdown, sequestration
2014	0.80%	0.25%	Expansion (2.5%)	Quantitative easing ends
2015	0.70%	0.50%	Expansion (2.9%)	Deflation in oil and gas prices
2016	2.10%	0.75%	Expansion (1.8%)
2017	2.10%	1.50%	Expansion (2.5%)
2018	1.90%	2.50%	Expansion (3.0%)
2019	2.30%	1.75%	Expansion (2.5%)
2020	1.40%	0.25%	Contraction (-2.2%)	COVID-19 pandemic
2021	7.00%	0.25%	Expansion (5.8%)	COVID-19 pandemic
2022	6.50%	4.50%	Expansion (1.9%)	Russia invades Ukraine
2023	3.40%	5.50%	Expansion (2.5%)	Fed raised rates

Here are the facts, not maga lies and rhetoric. You honestly think, that Trump didn't simply sleep walk his way onto Obama's coattails when it came to gas prices and inflation? Cmon, dude. Inflation affected the entire world after the pandemic and then the Ukrainian war happened. Blaming Biden is comical. Likewise crediting Trump for low gas prices during a pandemic is also comical.

 

[candycorn]

1. We are comparing Trump to Biden/Harris dumbass. We need to choose the better president.

2. Trump and Biden ran up similar Debt numbers, don't just look at Trump. Biden spent almost DOUBLE what Trump spent in budgets. That is what caused inflation, overspending. How do I know? Because Trump's inflation was 1%, and Biden's was 6%, duh. Inflation under Biden added 20% to the price of everything, except wages.

3. So why are corporate profits so much higher under Biden than under Trump? Biden's bloated budgets and over-spending caused inflation and inflated corporate profits, duh.

Corporate Profits After Tax (without IVA and CCAdj)

Graph and download economic data for Corporate Profits After Tax (without IVA and CCAdj) (CP) from Q1 1947 to Q3 2025 about CCADJ, IVA, corporate profits, tax, corporate, GDP, and USA.

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So a few posts ago you said they were suffering because it was more expensive. Then you said that the profits were the same under both Biden and Trump. Now you’re admitting that the corporations are making a killing.

What crazy allegation will you make next?

2. Prove corporate greed is causing inflation. The price of gas makes shipping everything more expensive.

Then…

2. Corporate profits were about the same under Trump and Biden.

The same….

Followed by

3. So why are corporate profits so much higher under Biden than under Trump? Biden's bloated budgets and over-spending caused inflation and inflated corporate profits, duh.

Pick a story then stick to it *****

 

[krichton]

1. We are comparing Trump to Biden/Harris dumbass. We need to choose the better president.

2. Trump and Biden ran up similar Debt numbers, don't just look at Trump. Biden spent almost DOUBLE what Trump spent in budgets. That is what caused inflation, overspending. How do I know? Because Trump's inflation was 1%, and Biden's was 6%, duh. Inflation under Biden added 20% to the price of everything, except wages.

3. So why are corporate profits so much higher under Biden than under Trump? Biden's bloated budgets and over-spending caused inflation and inflated corporate profits, duh.

Corporate Profits After Tax (without IVA and CCAdj)

Graph and download economic data for Corporate Profits After Tax (without IVA and CCAdj) (CP) from Q1 1947 to Q3 2025 about CCADJ, IVA, corporate profits, tax, corporate, GDP, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

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Trump can credit Obama for the country's inflation numbers following his 8 years in office.

Trump and Biden: The National Debt | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

The national debt is on course to reach a record share of the economy under the next presidential administration, due in part to policies approved by Presidents Trump and Biden during their ti

www.crfb.org

• President Trump approved $8.4 trillion of new ten-year borrowing during his full term in office, or $4.8 trillion excluding the CARES Act and other COVID relief.
• President Biden, in his first three years and five months in office, approved $4.3 trillion of new ten-year borrowing, or $2.2 trillion excluding the American Rescue Plan.
• President Trump approved $8.8 trillion of gross new borrowing and $443 billion of deficit reduction during his full presidential term.
• President Biden has so far approved $6.2 trillion of gross new borrowing and $1.9 trillion of deficit reduction.
• Roughly 77 percent of President Trump’s approved ten-year debt came from bipartisan legislation, and 29 percent of the net ten-year debt President Biden has approved thus far came from bipartisan legislation. The rest was from partisan actions.
• President Trump approved $2.2 trillion of debt in his first two years in office and $6.2 trillion ($2.6 trillion non-COVID) in his second two years. President Biden approved $4.9 trillion ($2.9 trillion non-COVID) in his first two years in office and has so far approved over $600 billion of net ten-year deficit reduction since.
• President Trump approved $5.9 trillion of net spending increases including interest ($2.8 trillion non-COVID) and $2.5 trillion of net tax cuts ($2.0 trillion non-COVID). President Biden has approved $4.3 trillion of net spending increases including interest ($2.3 trillion non-COVID) and roughly $0 of net tax changes ($60 billion revenue increase non-COVID).
• Debt held by the public rose by $7.2 trillion during President Trump’s term including $5.9 trillion in the first three years and five months. Debt held by the public has grown by $6.0 trillion during President Biden’s term so far.
• President Trump’s executive actions added less than $20 billion to ten-year debt on net. President Biden’s executive actions have added $1.2 trillion to ten-year debt so far.
• The President’s budget was on average 39 days late under President Trump and 58 days late under President Biden.

Look at Trump's insane spending. It's nearly double Biden's but Biden is the one causing inflation with bloated budgets and overspending? LOL I suggest going to the link which provides a better overview.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

1. Prove he won't deport millions of illegals. He said he will.

"He said he will" LOL.

2. Google the annual Federal Budgets in wiki, dumbass. Those are real numbers.

Sure....................

The page "Annual federal budgets" does not exist. You can create a draft and submit it for review or request that a redirect be created, but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered.

3. Biden added tons of regulations that adds to the cost of oil and gas, that's why gas went from $1.87 under Trump to $4 under Biden.

Oil and gas companies will have to pay more to drill on public lands and satisfy stronger requirements to clean up old or abandoned wells, according to a final rule issued Friday by the Biden administration.

The Interior Department’s rule raises royalty rates for oil drilling by more than one-third, to 16.67 percent, in accordance with the sweeping 2002 climate law approved by Congress. The previous rate of 12.5 percent paid by oil and gas companies for federal drilling rights had remained unchanged for a century. The federal rate was significantly lower than what many states and private landowners charge for drilling leases on state or private lands.

So............the federal rate hasn't increased in a century.
States rates have always been more expensive..........So, you blame Biden?

Of course you do.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Weird Trump asked for it, and he is getting it! What a weird loser!!

 

[kyzr]

Here are the facts, not maga lies and rhetoric. You honestly think, that Trump didn't simply sleep walk his way onto Obama's coattails when it came to gas prices and inflation? Cmon, dude. Inflation affected the entire world after the pandemic and then the Ukrainian war happened. Blaming Biden is comical. Likewise crediting Trump for low gas prices during a pandemic is also comical.

We can see many different things in that table. Like the Trump tax cuts. Like 3% GDP, etc.
Obama's "recovery" was the slowest in history.

 

[kyzr]

So a few posts ago you said they were suffering because it was more expensive. Then you said that the profits were the same under both Biden and Trump. Now you’re admitting that the corporations are making a killing. What crazy allegation will you make next?

Then… The same….

Followed by Pick a story then stick to it *****

1. You said Trump added $8T to the Debt. I corrected you that Trump added $7.6T while Biden added $6.9T, both too much, but Trump had the pandemic and the shutdown to deal with. Biden just wasted Trillions on "green" wet dreams while doubling Trump's Budget for no reason.

2. Corporate profits are up under Biden. That doesn't prove "price gouging". Look at the subsidies they are getting under Biden, even I could turn a profit.

 

[kyzr]

Trump can credit Obama for the country's inflation numbers following his 8 years in office.

• President Trump approved $8.4 trillion of new ten-year borrowing during his full term in office, or $4.8 trillion excluding the CARES Act and other COVID relief.
• President Biden, in his first three years and five months in office, approved $4.3 trillion of new ten-year borrowing, or $2.2 trillion excluding the American Rescue Plan.
• President Trump approved $8.8 trillion of gross new borrowing and $443 billion of deficit reduction during his full presidential term.
• President Biden has so far approved $6.2 trillion of gross new borrowing and $1.9 trillion of deficit reduction.
• Roughly 77 percent of President Trump’s approved ten-year debt came from bipartisan legislation, and 29 percent of the net ten-year debt President Biden has approved thus far came from bipartisan legislation. The rest was from partisan actions.
• President Trump approved $2.2 trillion of debt in his first two years in office and $6.2 trillion ($2.6 trillion non-COVID) in his second two years. President Biden approved $4.9 trillion ($2.9 trillion non-COVID) in his first two years in office and has so far approved over $600 billion of net ten-year deficit reduction since.
• President Trump approved $5.9 trillion of net spending increases including interest ($2.8 trillion non-COVID) and $2.5 trillion of net tax cuts ($2.0 trillion non-COVID). President Biden has approved $4.3 trillion of net spending increases including interest ($2.3 trillion non-COVID) and roughly $0 of net tax changes ($60 billion revenue increase non-COVID).
• Debt held by the public rose by $7.2 trillion during President Trump’s term including $5.9 trillion in the first three years and five months. Debt held by the public has grown by $6.0 trillion during President Biden’s term so far.
• President Trump’s executive actions added less than $20 billion to ten-year debt on net. President Biden’s executive actions have added $1.2 trillion to ten-year debt so far.
• The President’s budget was on average 39 days late under President Trump and 58 days late under President Biden.

Look at Trump's insane spending. It's nearly double Biden's but Biden is the one causing inflation with bloated budgets and overspending? LOL I suggest going to the link which provides a better overview.

1. What insane spending by Trump? He kept his Budgets about what Obama had, about $4T.
Biden’s 2025 Budget is $7.30T with a $1.8T deficit______TOTAL BIDEN $6.9T (in theory)
Biden’s 2024 Budget was $7.30T with a $2.0T deficit
Biden's 2023 Budget was $6.13T with a $1.7T deficit
Biden's 2022 Budget was $6.27T with a $1.4T deficit
Trump's 2021 Budget was $6.82T with a $2.8T deficit___ TOTAL TRUMP $7.6T (actual)
Trump's 2020 Budget was $6.55T with a $3.1T deficit
Trump's 2019 Budget was $4.40T with a $0.9T deficit

2. Look at Biden's Budgets, almost TWICE Trump's $4T, increased only due to Covid. Biden has no excuse for his bloated budgets. So yes, Biden's excessive spending caused inflation, along with his open borders, allowing 12,000,000 illegals in using the same supply of goods and services. By the Law of "supply & demand" that caused inflation.

 

[kyzr]

"He said he will" LOL. Sure....................

The page "Annual federal budgets" does not exist. You can create a draft and submit it for review or request that a redirect be created, but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered.

Oil and gas companies will have to pay more to drill on public lands and satisfy stronger requirements to clean up old or abandoned wells, according to a final rule issued Friday by the Biden administration.

The Interior Department’s rule raises royalty rates for oil drilling by more than one-third, to 16.67 percent, in accordance with the sweeping 2002 climate law approved by Congress. The previous rate of 12.5 percent paid by oil and gas companies for federal drilling rights had remained unchanged for a century. The federal rate was significantly lower than what many states and private landowners charge for drilling leases on state or private lands.

So............the federal rate hasn't increased in a century.
States rates have always been more expensive..........So, you blame Biden? Of course you do.

1. OMG, learn how to use ******* google already:
google "2017 (or any year) Federal Budget wiki", duh.

2017 United States federal budget - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2. Obama was the "deporter in chief". So will Trump be.

3. We'll see what happens to the price of oil & gas after Trump's term. You say they will stay the same as Biden, we'll see.