Trump bragged that his tower withstood a fire — silent about lack of sprinklers

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

oddly enough, your kind...

I'm one of a kind, bitch; unlike the droves of partisan hacks that populate this forum. The facts are that an old man died in a building fire. Trying to blame it on Trump is weak as fuck. You don't even know that sprinklers would have saved him. I'm not a Trump supporter. I just have a low tolerance for weak ass bullshit.

Must be hard..having to sneak up in the mirror...with the low tolerance and all. I find you banal..and pretty much the same as all the other cookie cutter assholes who never are able to respond to a post without casting it in their political mold...and ignoring any inconvenient facts..like..Trump fought sprinklers for his building..that's a fact smegma lips...and it speaks to his character..not that most of us need any confirmation as to that!

The sprinklers might have saved him..argue that..idiot.

As for not being a Trump supporter..review your posting record...and try to say THAT with a straight face...Lol!

BTW...those who cut out pieces of posts to respond to them..are intellectually dishonest...and define the term hacks.

Then he should have rented a newer apartment that had sprinklers installed, dumbass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

one would hope that high rises that cant be reached by fire department ladders should have sprinkler systems...

Why? They have internal piping systems for the firefighters to use. Why do they need a ladder?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Trump bragged that his tower withstood a fire — but has been silent about the man who died in it


I guess the thought that he was against something that may have saved a life...escapes him?

Billionaire too cheap to install sprinklers.

"After the fire, Trump’s former opposition to a law requiring sprinklers in residential high-rise buildings came under scrutiny. In the 1990s and early 2000s, Trump lobbied against a bill that would have required sprinklers to be installed in all residential buildings in New York, backing down only after existing buildings such as his own were allowed to be grandfathered in, the New York Daily News reported.


On Saturday, Nigro confirmed to reporters to that no sprinklers were in place in the upper residential floors of Trump Tower, where the fire broke out.


Several residents also spoke of the fear and chaos that erupted after they realized their building was on fire.


“It was a very horrible experience . . . there was no evacuation system in place . . . we were at a loss of what to do. I almost fainted. I thought we would die,” Lalitha Mason, who lives on the 36th floor of Trump Tower, told the New York Post. “My husband is disabled and we were helpless. All we could do is put wet towels under the door and pray.”"

For the president, however, the fire seemed first a chance to boast of the construction quality of Trump Tower on Twitter, his preferred method of communicating with the public.

“Very confined (well built building),” Trump tweeted Saturday, about an hour after the fire broke out. “Firemen (and women) did a great job. THANK YOU!”

Fire at Trump Tower is out. Very confined (well built building). Firemen (and women) did a great job. THANK YOU!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 7, 2018
Trump also declared that the fire had been extinguished — before it actually had been.

The fire was still not considered to be under control then because of smoke conditions above the 50th floor, Nigro said Saturday. It was brought under control shortly before 8 p.m. Saturday, about an hour after Trump’s tweet, fire officials said.

“This was a very difficult fire. As you can imagine, the apartment is quite large; we are 50 stories up,” Nigro said. “The rest of the building had a considerable amount of smoke.”

Though Trump thanked the “firemen (and women)” who responded to the blaze, his tweet made no mention of those who had suffered injuries.

At the time, the resident who had been pulled from his burning Trump Tower apartment was listed in critical condition, and officials initially said four firefighters suffered minor injuries.

Officials later announced that the Trump Tower resident had died at Mount Sinai Hospital and identified him as 67-year-old Todd Brassner, who lived in unit 50C. They also revised the count of injured firefighters from four to six.

Nevertheless, Trump’s Saturday evening tweet has remained the only comment he has made regarding the fire in his building, where he keeps an office and a residence. The White House said Saturday that the first family was not in New York when the fire broke out.

On Sunday morning, Trump posted about a half-dozen tweets on a variety of subjects, including the “rigged” investigation into Hillary Clinton and how he and Chinese President Xi Jinping would “always be friends, no matter what happens with our dispute on trade.” But he has not revisited the Trump Tower fire, even after news of Brassner’s death.

So now it’s President Trump’s fault that laws and building codes in ultra blue New York don’t require water sprinklers?

Trump derangement syndrome on full display here.

From the article--
Trump’s former opposition to a law requiring sprinklers in residential high-rise buildings came under scrutiny. In the 1990s and early 2000s, Trump lobbied against a bill that would have required sprinklers to be installed in all residential buildings in New York, backing down only after existing buildings such as his own were allowed to be grandfathered in, the New York Daily News reported.


On Saturday, Nigro confirmed to reporters to that no sprinklers were in place in the upper residential floors of Trump Tower, where the fire broke out.

So yes..it is partially Trump's doing that led to the codes being what they are now. Surprised you didn't get that..from reading the first paragraphs and all.
Of course..since you brought up the ultra-blue thing--Wasn't Trump part of that ultra-blue crowd?

Some kind of syndrome on full display here...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

seems the lower cost of insurance would cover sprinkler installation

Keep thinking that! You would be wrong.

Installing sprinklers retroactively is MUCH more expensive than original installation. Ever put piping into your ceiling after it is built? How do you get the pipes up there?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

one would hope that high rises that cant be reached by fire department ladders should have sprinkler systems...

Why? They have internal piping systems for the firefighters to use. Why do they need a ladder?

Have you ever tried to climb 120 floors with a 200lb equip load? Dumbass.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

oddly enough, your kind...

I'm one of a kind, bitch; unlike the droves of partisan hacks that populate this forum. The facts are that an old man died in a building fire. Trying to blame it on Trump is weak as fuck. You don't even know that sprinklers would have saved him. I'm not a Trump supporter. I just have a low tolerance for weak ass bullshit.

Yes, I'm sure you're as unique as a snowflake.

It's relevant in the context of the type of person that Trump is - he spent more money donating to City Councilmen to kill a law that would have mandated installation of sprinklers than it would have cost to just put the damn sprinklers in.

Prove it!

How much rent would he lose when people were forced out of their apartments for the installation of the new sprinklers?

You are talking out of your ass again, aren't you?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

one would hope that high rises that cant be reached by fire department ladders should have sprinkler systems...

Why? They have internal piping systems for the firefighters to use. Why do they need a ladder?

Have you ever tried to climb 120 floors with a 200lb equip load? Dumbass.

Ever climb a ladder with 200 lb equipment?

I know how much the gear weighs? Do you?

A roll of hose and a nozzle doesn't weigh 200 lbs, and that is why they have elevators, dumbass!

Look at one the next time you go in an elevator. There are controls specifically for the firefighters to use.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why? They have internal piping systems for the firefighters to use. Why do they need a ladder?

Uh .... really? Do you maybe want to rethink this one? Like, maybe the firefighters can't get to or on the floors that are on fire...

oddly enough, your kind...

I'm one of a kind, bitch; unlike the droves of partisan hacks that populate this forum. The facts are that an old man died in a building fire. Trying to blame it on Trump is weak as fuck. You don't even know that sprinklers would have saved him. I'm not a Trump supporter. I just have a low tolerance for weak ass bullshit.

Yes, I'm sure you're as unique as a snowflake.

It's relevant in the context of the type of person that Trump is - he spent more money donating to City Councilmen to kill a law that would have mandated installation of sprinklers than it would have cost to just put the damn sprinklers in.

Prove it!

How much rent would he lose when people were forced out of their apartments for the installation of the new sprinklers?

You are talking out of your ass again, aren't you?

You make a great point. At what point did we, As americans, think profiteers like jackass trump were 'looking out for anyone's safety"? he wouldn't piss on a single person here, if they were on fire. we know this.

THAT is why we makes laws that force people like Trump to install these sprinklers. So, if anyone is to blame for this, it is US, as voters. It is the people of new york, who did not force this to happen with their voices and their votes.
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So, Trump is a stupid douchebag. great, that's not news. And then we react with shock , when the stupid douchebag is ALLOWED to be a stupid douchebag?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I think that's you reading things into the OP that weren't there.

Meh, my bad then. I didn't realize you all agree that Trump is not responsible for the death.

Of course, Trump isn't responsible. Nor is he culpable. But he could have reduced some of the factors...that he did not...speaks to who he is...and what, we, his people, should expect of him.

Perhaps it's justice..a selfish, shallow people..get a selfish, shallow President.

It's his lack of empathy that may yet get us in real trouble. He has not even expressed his condolences for the man who died in his building..you know..Trump Tower?

I don't think any of us are real to him....

You know this how?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

oddly enough, your kind...

I'm one of a kind, bitch; unlike the droves of partisan hacks that populate this forum. The facts are that an old man died in a building fire. Trying to blame it on Trump is weak as fuck. You don't even know that sprinklers would have saved him. I'm not a Trump supporter. I just have a low tolerance for weak ass bullshit.

Yes, I'm sure you're as unique as a snowflake.

It's relevant in the context of the type of person that Trump is - he spent more money donating to City Councilmen to kill a law that would have mandated installation of sprinklers than it would have cost to just put the damn sprinklers in.

Prove it!

How much rent would he lose when people were forced out of their apartments for the installation of the new sprinklers?

You are talking out of your ass again, aren't you?

I know you guys like to pretend that Trump didn't exist prior to 2016, but this is very common knowledge in New York.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

oddly enough, your kind...

I'm one of a kind, bitch; unlike the droves of partisan hacks that populate this forum. The facts are that an old man died in a building fire. Trying to blame it on Trump is weak as fuck. You don't even know that sprinklers would have saved him. I'm not a Trump supporter. I just have a low tolerance for weak ass bullshit.

Yes, I'm sure you're as unique as a snowflake.

It's relevant in the context of the type of person that Trump is - he spent more money donating to City Councilmen to kill a law that would have mandated installation of sprinklers than it would have cost to just put the damn sprinklers in.

Prove it!

How much rent would he lose when people were forced out of their apartments for the installation of the new sprinklers?

You are talking out of your ass again, aren't you?

I know you guys like to pretend that Trump didn't exist prior to 2016, but this is very common knowledge in New York.

What is common knowledge? Something that you cannot prove is nothing more than your severe TDS?

 

[Zander]

This thread is further proof that Trump Derangement Syndrome in full bloom!!

 

[theDoctorisIn]

oddly enough, your kind...

I'm one of a kind, bitch; unlike the droves of partisan hacks that populate this forum. The facts are that an old man died in a building fire. Trying to blame it on Trump is weak as fuck. You don't even know that sprinklers would have saved him. I'm not a Trump supporter. I just have a low tolerance for weak ass bullshit.

Must be hard..having to sneak up in the mirror...with the low tolerance and all. I find you banal..and pretty much the same as all the other cookie cutter assholes who never are able to respond to a post without casting it in their political mold...and ignoring any inconvenient facts..like..Trump fought sprinklers for his building..that's a fact smegma lips...and it speaks to his character..not that most of us need any confirmation as to that!

The sprinklers might have saved him..argue that..idiot.

As for not being a Trump supporter..review your posting record...and try to say THAT with a straight face...Lol!

BTW...those who cut out pieces of posts to respond to them..are intellectually dishonest...and define the term hacks.

Then he should have rented a newer apartment that had sprinklers installed, dumbass!

There are no "rentals" in Trump Tower. They're all condos.

Apparently Brassner was desperately trying to sell his condo since the election, but no one wanted to buy it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Lack of sprinklers..



You stalinst fucks are something.

Yeah, the tower had sprinklers, shit fer brains.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

oddly enough, your kind...

I'm one of a kind, bitch; unlike the droves of partisan hacks that populate this forum. The facts are that an old man died in a building fire. Trying to blame it on Trump is weak as fuck. You don't even know that sprinklers would have saved him. I'm not a Trump supporter. I just have a low tolerance for weak ass bullshit.

Yes, I'm sure you're as unique as a snowflake.

It's relevant in the context of the type of person that Trump is - he spent more money donating to City Councilmen to kill a law that would have mandated installation of sprinklers than it would have cost to just put the damn sprinklers in.

Prove it!

How much rent would he lose when people were forced out of their apartments for the installation of the new sprinklers?

You are talking out of your ass again, aren't you?

I know you guys like to pretend that Trump didn't exist prior to 2016, but this is very common knowledge in New York.

What is common knowledge? Something that you cannot prove is nothing more than your severe TDS?

You're welcome to pretend it isn't true, if it makes you feel better.

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I owe you "proof".

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

oddly enough, your kind...

I'm one of a kind, bitch; unlike the droves of partisan hacks that populate this forum. The facts are that an old man died in a building fire. Trying to blame it on Trump is weak as fuck. You don't even know that sprinklers would have saved him. I'm not a Trump supporter. I just have a low tolerance for weak ass bullshit.

Must be hard..having to sneak up in the mirror...with the low tolerance and all. I find you banal..and pretty much the same as all the other cookie cutter assholes who never are able to respond to a post without casting it in their political mold...and ignoring any inconvenient facts..like..Trump fought sprinklers for his building..that's a fact smegma lips...and it speaks to his character..not that most of us need any confirmation as to that!

The sprinklers might have saved him..argue that..idiot.

As for not being a Trump supporter..review your posting record...and try to say THAT with a straight face...Lol!

BTW...those who cut out pieces of posts to respond to them..are intellectually dishonest...and define the term hacks.

Then he should have rented a newer apartment that had sprinklers installed, dumbass!

There are no "rentals" in Trump Tower. They're all condos.

Apparently Brassner was desperately trying to sell his condo since the election, but no one wanted to buy it.

Why is this even relevant?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

one would hope that high rises that cant be reached by fire department ladders should have sprinkler systems...

Why? They have internal piping systems for the firefighters to use. Why do they need a ladder?

Have you ever tried to climb 120 floors with a 200lb equip load? Dumbass.

Ever climb a ladder with 200 lb equipment?

I know how much the gear weighs? Do you?

A roll of hose and a nozzle doesn't weigh 200 lbs, and that is why they have elevators, dumbass!

Look at one the next time you go in an elevator. There are controls specifically for the firefighters to use.

Yup..sure are--of course--often in emergency situations..one cannot use the elevator. Lol@hose and reel.

What's It Weigh?
 Firefighter gear, piece by piece


So...70lbs---in PPE...how much does hose and reel weigh? How emergent is a rescue? Need a ladder to get someone down quickly? Were not talking climbing types of ladders, are we. Ride to the top on the boom.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Lack of sprinklers..



You stalinst fucks are something.

Yeah, the tower had sprinklers, shit fer brains.

No, it didn't, you mindless fuckwit. It's all over the damn news.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

oddly enough, your kind...

I'm one of a kind, bitch; unlike the droves of partisan hacks that populate this forum. The facts are that an old man died in a building fire. Trying to blame it on Trump is weak as fuck. You don't even know that sprinklers would have saved him. I'm not a Trump supporter. I just have a low tolerance for weak ass bullshit.

Must be hard..having to sneak up in the mirror...with the low tolerance and all. I find you banal..and pretty much the same as all the other cookie cutter assholes who never are able to respond to a post without casting it in their political mold...and ignoring any inconvenient facts..like..Trump fought sprinklers for his building..that's a fact smegma lips...and it speaks to his character..not that most of us need any confirmation as to that!

The sprinklers might have saved him..argue that..idiot.

As for not being a Trump supporter..review your posting record...and try to say THAT with a straight face...Lol!

BTW...those who cut out pieces of posts to respond to them..are intellectually dishonest...and define the term hacks.

Then he should have rented a newer apartment that had sprinklers installed, dumbass!

There are no "rentals" in Trump Tower. They're all condos.

Apparently Brassner was desperately trying to sell his condo since the election, but no one wanted to buy it.

Why is this even relevant?

Because you're a raging fuckwit that thinks the dead guy was "renting" in Trump Tower, and could have just moved - thereby attempting to put the blame for this man's death on his own head.

 

[airplanemechanic]

I promise Trump is more upset about the damage to his building than the death of this guy.

Do I lay the blame on Trump? Maybe 50%. He didn't install sprinklers, but nobody made this guy live in Trump Tower. He knew there were no sprinklers, or he should have, that's his life and his job to know.