Trump blinks

[Rambunctious]

Playing CHINA like a fiddle, Now that is funny.

Funny and true....

 

[Mac1958]

Playing CHINA like a fiddle, Now that is funny.

Y'know, and I'm only half kidding here, maybe Trump's superpower will be to convince them that he's an ignorant, flamboyant, childlike buffoon in order to lure them into a bad deal.

Go with your strengths, ya know?

I guess we'll find out.

 

[sealybobo]

Then most economist analyst are dead wrong.

The US is not trying to be isolationists. If we were, we would just cut off trade entirely. The world cannot economically survive without the US consumer. For some reason, that escapes most of you and many of these “serious economic analyst”.

How is there no long term gain by negotiating up with 75+ countries for better deals and leaving China to fend for themselves? You don’t think China will come to the table and that we will ultimately reach a deal that works out better than we currently have? I can guarantee you that will happen. EU absolutely needs the US consumer and they know it. They rely on our consumers and our military. They want no part of not being a partner with the US.

You and the “serious” people are just flat out wrong, but I feel like I am talking to an indoctrinated 21 year old who is taking an economics class and believes he is suddenly an expert because he has absorbed information and propaganda from his leftist professor. That same 21 year old goes on to grad school and becomes a professor himself and spreads more of the nonsense to the next generation. He has never run so much as a lemonade stand, but he is an expert because he has his PhD. You can go on believing these ideologues and I will stick with the opinions from those with real-world experience.

You don't think the rest of the world can survive without us?

 

[Mac-7]

Having television factories in every country doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Specialized production and labor are extremely advantageous from a productivity standpoint.

It makes sense unless you want future generations to grow up speaking chinese

 

[Marener]

It makes sense unless you want future generations to grow up speaking chinese

That makes no sense.

 

[Mac-7]

And the American sets sucked

No they didnt

They were state of the art for the time although the japanese sets were a little cheaper

Was putting hundreds of thousands of Americans out of work worth saving a few bucks on a Panasonic worth it?

I dont think so

 

[sealybobo]

Y'know, and I'm only half kidding here, maybe Trump's superpower will be to convince them that he's an ignorant, flamboyant, childlike buffoon in order to lure them into a bad deal.

Go with your strengths, ya know?

I guess we'll find out.

We keep warning Trump supporters. When Trump is in a room with Putin or the Chinese President, Trump IS NOT the smartest guy in the room.

Why don't Republicans see this?

President Donald Trump still seems to think that “groceries” is something of an uncommon word.
“It’s such an old-fashioned term, but a beautiful term: groceries. It sort of says a bag with different things in it,”

Watch moment Trump claims he is ‘genius’ for realizing ‘us’ is spelled same as ‘US’​

Trump claims he has ‘very fertile brain’ as he defends rambling speeches​

He has a big brain.

You thinking he is smart says a lot about you. Now we see for sure, American voters are dumb. YOU are dumb.

 

[sealybobo]

It makes sense unless you want future generations to grow up speaking chinese

Or if you want the Chinese spying on us because you know they have microphones in every tv they send here.

 

[Mac1958]

We keep warning Trump supporters. When Trump is in a room with Putin or the Chinese President, Trump IS NOT the smartest guy in the room.

Why don't Republicans see this?

I'd love to know. But they think he's brilliant and a great businessman and trust him completely. And nothing is going to change their minds.

So, we deserve what we get.

 

[Mac-7]

Or if you want the Chinese spying on us because you know they have microphones in every tv they send here.

And every other electronic device they make

 

[Clipper]

once the trade deals are finished the dow will hit 50,000 .. and you will scream the rich are getting richer ..

How's the market doing today despite Dear Leader claiming to be ready to do "deals", genius?

 

[candycorn]

Appears he is rightfully focusing harder on China. This is not going to end well for China if Trump rallies their neighbours to Americas side. He bumped it up to 125% which I think is too little. I'd go at least 200% considering the depths and length of duration of Chinas abuses which WTO ignored. 100k Dead each year in America alone would justify 200%

He needs to get Japan, S Korea and other wealthier, democratic, capitalist nations to invest in America. Create jobs in exchange for more open markets and I would argue easier immigration.

Hell I'd go further and have the government fund programs to learn Japanese, Korean etc and have those nations do the same with English. If you can communicate, you can build bridges and economic integration.

The war against America and the West has been on for 30 years, Trump is taking it on when others turtled

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/livestory/trump-says-hes-pausing-10-global-tariff-raising-tariffs-on-china-9.6717027

Trump just posted that he’ll hit pause on the 10 per cent global tariff he imposed last week, but will raise the levies on China to 125 per cent.

 

[sealybobo]

I'd love to know. But they think he's brilliant and a great businessman and trust him completely. And nothing is going to change their minds.

So, we deserve what we get.

But they won't ever accept blame or responsibility. Have they ever accepted the blame for Bush 2? They know he lied us into Iraq. Trump said it to Jeb when he ran in 2016 and they all voted for him so they must know on some level. They just won't admit it to us.

Same for the 2000 election. Isn't it funny they poo poo all the things that Bush did in 2000 but then Trump claimed Hillary/Biden did all those things to him without any proof, and boy did they believe him.

I saw something the other day explaining this. I wish I could find it. Basically they will defend anything he says and does. But not all of them are like that. You see yesterday the Republicans with common sense talked some into him. The nuts like Peter Navarro wanted him to drive the bus off the cliff. All because Ron Vara told them it would work. Who the **** is Ron Vara you ask? It's Peter. Ron Vara is just a anagram for Navarro. That's how weird these billionaires are. But they can afford to be weird. Especially when half the country worships them.

 

[Rawley]

And almost every day, you'll ignore anything that doesn't fit your narrative, you intellectually insecure ****.

Breathtaking projection. Kudos.

 

[Correll]

None of Trump's policies are all bad. Sure I'd rather bring a factory home, have it be automated, and only 100 engineers and managers actually work at the plant. 100 good American jobs. Bring them home. I agree. Can't argue that.

THANK YOU. And to be clear, I agree.

Our trade partners didn't **** us. Republicans and Corporations fucked us. Our trade partners negotiated the best deals for them and the corporations/Republicans got the best deals for those corporations. Yes, American labor got fucked.

Our trade partners fucked US. The corporates fucked us too. The Republican Free Traders thought they had a policy that would work. Even after it clearly failed, they stuck to it, them AND THE DEMS, so that was them, yes, "*******" us too.

As you can imagine after two or three generations of that, we are pretty pissed off and ready to rumble.

Asking for nuance, is a fools game. You wanted nuance, you should have done that yourself, 20 years ago. Or 30.

I remember losing my inside sales job to India call center. Republicans said it was saving the company money and I need to go find a better job. Adapt.

Yep. That was wrong of them. It was wrong when they said it. It is wrong now. I was against it by the 90s, when Patrick Buchanan primaried GHWBush. When did you start defending it?

You think this is about the workers? HA! The last four years uneducated blue collar workers have been getting raises. By ORGANIZING into unions. I know for a fact Trump is anti union. This is why I know all his policies supposedly designed to raise their wages, is complete utter bullshit.

MAGA and lefties have different ideas about HOW to do something. Is that really hard for you to grasp?

Really? Or are you playing dumb becuase it makes for stronger statements to attack Trump for being "anti-worker" as opposed to having a differnce of opinon on how to get to a goal we all agree on. All being me, you and Trump?

Anyways, you guys are in charge. Don't blame us if in 2 years nothing has changed. Or if things are even worse for those workers. UAW will be on strike in 2028 demanding a raise. Will you support them then? Bet you won't.

Again with the playing stupid. Trump and MAGA are in charge. Right now. And if we get our way and it doesn't work out, I will admit it.

If we get our way and it doesn't work out, becuase, yes, it turns out that hte rest of the world has more economic leverage than the US by itself, that is a different discussion.

If we fail to carry though on our policies becuase the Republcians lose their nerve and turn on Trump, that would then be THEIR fault.

If we make progress but get creamed in the mid terms, and our progress is reversed, then that is not us failing, but us being stopped by political weakness of AMERICA.


That you pretend that this is not the case, is you being dishonest. Which is very odd, it indicates that you are REALLY fearful of a massive TRUMP WIN.

I appreciate your good vibes for US.

 

[Clyde 154]

The best news of the day? Congress passed a law shutting down these radical judges from issuing nationwide court orders.......they can serve their own jurisdictions only. All that is required is a senate vote......which will use the nuclear option if required, 50 + 1 will pass the house bill. It will be decades before the democrats get to use this option once the radical judges are out of the way.

 

[Nostra]

Biden didn’t keep all tariffs, just the ones that actually made sense.

Trump’s “liberation day” tariffs don’t make sense.

Which tariffs did Biden remove Marener

 

[Mac1958]

But they won't ever accept blame or responsibility. Have they ever accepted the blame for Bush 2? They know he lied us into Iraq. Trump said it to Jeb when he ran in 2016 and they all voted for him so they must know on some level. They just won't admit it to us.

Same for the 2000 election. Isn't it funny they poo poo all the things that Bush did in 2000 but then Trump claimed Hillary/Biden did all those things to him without any proof, and boy did they believe him.

I saw something the other day explaining this. I wish I could find it. Basically they will defend anything he says and does. But not all of them are like that. You see yesterday the Republicans with common sense talked some into him. The nuts like Peter Navarro wanted him to drive the bus off the cliff. All because Ron Vara told them it would work. Who the **** is Ron Vara you ask? It's Peter. Ron Vara is just a anagram for Navarro. That's how weird these billionaires are. But they can afford to be weird. Especially when half the country worships them.

Yeah, Navarro is a proven fraud and it doesn't matter to them.

This is about more than politics or economics to them. This is deeply personal, and while I understand it more than I once did, much of it is still just inexplicable. But this is not about Trump. This is about them and something personal they feel they need. Somehow.

 

[sealybobo]

THANK YOU. And to be clear, I agree.



Our trade partners fucked US. The corporates fucked us too. The Republican Free Traders thought they had a policy that would work. Even after it clearly failed, they stuck to it, them AND THE DEMS, so that was them, yes, "*******" us too.

As you can imagine after two or three generations of that, we are pretty pissed off and ready to rumble.

Asking for nuance, is a fools game. You wanted nuance, you should have done that yourself, 20 years ago. Or 30.




Yep. That was wrong of them. It was wrong when they said it. It is wrong now. I was against it by the 90s, when Patrick Buchanan primaried GHWBush. When did you start defending it?



MAGA and lefties have different ideas about HOW to do something. Is that really hard for you to grasp?

Really? Or are you playing dumb becuase it makes for stronger statements to attack Trump for being "anti-worker" as opposed to having a differnce of opinon on how to get to a goal we all agree on. All being me, you and Trump?





Again with the playing stupid. Trump and MAGA are in charge. Right now. And if we get our way and it doesn't work out, I will admit it.

If we get our way and it doesn't work out, becuase, yes, it turns out that hte rest of the world has more economic leverage than the US by itself, that is a different discussion.

If we fail to carry though on our policies becuase the Republcians lose their nerve and turn on Trump, that would then be THEIR fault.

If we make progress but get creamed in the mid terms, and our progress is reversed, then that is not us failing, but us being stopped by political weakness of AMERICA.


That you pretend that this is not the case, is you being dishonest. Which is very odd, it indicates that you are REALLY fearful of a massive TRUMP WIN.

I appreciate your good vibes for US.

No, American corporations and Republican policies fucked us. Not China or Canada.

Think about how stupid you are. The American middle class has been screwed the last 40 years. Republicans said they’d fix this. Who are they blaming for your woes? China? Canada? Mexico? Everyone except for the people who actually fucked you.

 

[sealybobo]

Yeah, Navarro is a proven fraud and it doesn't matter to them.

This is about more than politics or economics to them. This is deeply personal, and while I understand it more than I once did, much of it is still just inexplicable. But this is not about Trump. This is about them and something personal they feel they need. Somehow.

They want to take over the government. Power