Trump and company’s NY Civil case penalty struck down

[Rawley]

I frankly didn’t predict any version of justice from the NY State Court of Appeals.

They had to. The business community was demanding this precedent be reversed.

 

[MarathonMike]

It didn't stop him because no law prevents felons from holding federal office. Some laws are supposed to keep them off military installations, but Trump changed all that, and now they can. This thread is not about Trump breaking federal law, but state law.

He broke no laws as anyone with a basic understanding of what CIVIL FRAUD means knew all along. This was a monumental waste of time and taxpayer money and a total abuse of power by a State Attorney General.

 

[AZrailwhale]

There will still be a huge fine.

The entire fine was voided. James and Engoron can't go back and impose another. The next level of appeal will void the entire case. The only reason the appeals court didn't, was it was fatally split and came up with the compromise of voiding the fine and tossing the case to the next level of appeal.

 

[WEATHER53]

Had to shunt this off the main page for sure. The original but bogus ruling was front page in Politics or Current events for weeks
But it’s not censorship,

 

[WEATHER53]

They confirmed Trump’s a fraud. Not sure if it goes bald to the lower court to refigure the penalty or what.

This confirms they were the frauds and not Trump

 

[WEATHER53]

And the thread went from a busy and vital 20 participations in a half hour to 3.
Job well done

 

[marvin martian]

The entire fine was voided. James and Engoron can't go back and impose another. The next level of appeal will void the entire case. The only reason the appeals court didn't, was it was fatally split and came up with the compromise of voiding the fine and tossing the case to the next level of appeal.

It's also important to note the judgement voiding the fine specifically called out that it was a violation of Trump's civil rights (eighth amendment).

It would be wise for Trump to go after James and Engoron on civil rights charges.

 

[Marener]

This confirms they were the frauds and not Trump

Trump lied on his loans. It’s just a fact.

 

[excalibur]

It was a disgusting case. It was a disgusting judge involved.

And now, a victory for Trump.

A New York appeals court has completely thrown out the outrageous $364 million civil fraud penalty imposed by partisan Judge Arthur Engoron against President Donald Trump.

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In a decisive opinion, Judges Dianne T. Renwick and Peter H. Moulton declared the massive disgorgement order—essentially forcing Trump to cough up nearly half a billion dollars in "ill-gotten gains"—unconstitutional under the Eighth Amendment, which prohibits excessive fines. While the court acknowledged that some injunctive measures to reform the Trump Organization's business practices were warranted, the financial hammer was way over the top.

This reversal came after oral arguments nearly 11 months ago, an unusually long wait that underscores the complexity and the stakes involved. During the appeal, the penalties were paused, and Trump posted a $175 million bond to stave off collection. Now, the entire monetary penalty is wiped clean ...

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Massive Victory for President Trump: New York Appeals Court Tosses Out Bogus $364 Million Fraud Verdict

This isn't shocking because the original verdict was outrageous prima facie.

jdrucker.substack.com

 

[marvin martian]

It was a disgusting case. It was a disgusting judge involved.

And now, a victory for Trump.

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A New York appeals court has completely thrown out the outrageous $364 million civil fraud penalty imposed by partisan Judge Arthur Engoron against President Donald Trump.​

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In a decisive opinion, Judges Dianne T. Renwick and Peter H. Moulton declared the massive disgorgement order—essentially forcing Trump to cough up nearly half a billion dollars in "ill-gotten gains"—unconstitutional under the Eighth Amendment, which prohibits excessive fines. While the court acknowledged that some injunctive measures to reform the Trump Organization's business practices were warranted, the financial hammer was way over the top.​

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This reversal came after oral arguments nearly 11 months ago, an unusually long wait that underscores the complexity and the stakes involved. During the appeal, the penalties were paused, and Trump posted a $175 million bond to stave off collection. Now, the entire monetary penalty is wiped clean ...​

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Massive Victory for President Trump: New York Appeals Court Tosses Out Bogus $364 Million Fraud Verdict

This isn't shocking because the original verdict was outrageous prima facie.

jdrucker.substack.com

Haha! She's under criminal investigation now, too.

Remember this?

 

[marvin martian]

Trump lied on his loans. It’s just a fact.

LOL

Remember this? She's under criminal investigation now.

Headed for the pokey.

 

[Marener]

Remember this? She's under criminal investigation now.

“Investigate” is all you guys ever do. Actually prosecuting people seems to be beyond you.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The NY Court of Appeals (the state’s highest court) just struck down the nearly half a billion dollar fine as having been “excessive.”

This ruling was by the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of New York. They are not the states highest court, that would be the New York Court of Appeals which is over the Appellate Division.

The Appellate Davison is along the lines of the Federal District Courts of Appeal with the Supreme Court over them.

WW

 

[struth]

The Rule of Law prevails over Demafascist tyrants and their political prosecutions.

Justice is coming!

 

[struth]

The Rule of Law prevails over Demafascist tyrants and their political prosecutions.

Justice is coming!

 

[Delldude]

Trump lied on his loans.

That was for the lenders to determine prior to consummating any deal.

 

[marvin martian]

“Investigate” is all you guys ever do. Actually prosecuting people seems to be beyond you.

She could have used a Biden autopen pardon, too, but apparently, those were only for white people.

 

[Failzero]

Trump lied on his loans. It’s just a fact.

That is what James did ( In two States )

 

[martybegan]

This ruling was by the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of New York. They are not the states highest court, that would be the New York Court of Appeals which is over the Appellate Division.

The Appellate Davison is along the lines of the Federal District Courts of Appeal with the Supreme Court over them.

WW

NY needs to fix their court names.

 

[Marener]

That is what James did ( In two States )

Sure. But apparently the penalty for that is, well, nothing.