Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre

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Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room

There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.

Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.

“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.

Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.

But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:

Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.

Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.​

Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.

“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.

Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.

More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre

Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
 
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room

There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.

Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.

“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.

Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.

But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:

Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.

Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.​

Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.

“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.

Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.

More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre

Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.

I wish there had been more "good guys with guns" there too.

Perhaps one of them could have gotten a good shot at the guy before the Death Toll reached 50.


The idea that armed civilians stopping mass shootings being rare, is pretty stupid.

When you consider that mass shootings are rare.
 
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room

There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.

Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.

“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.

Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.

But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:

Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.

Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.​

Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.

“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.

Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.

More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre

Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.

I wish there had been more "good guys with guns" there too.

Perhaps one of them could have gotten a good shot at the guy before the Death Toll reached 50.


The idea that armed civilians stopping mass shootings being rare, is pretty stupid.

When you consider that mass shootings are rare.

Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
 
Let's be honest instead of partisan a-holes....

Had his co-worker or bosses reported him for 'constantly talking about killing people'...
Had the FBI been able to keep surveillance on this guy...
Had the night club not suspended their metal detection at the door (I read...)
Had there been more than one security guard positioned better / more strategically...
Had there been several people (or one, who knows) with legal concealed carry permits and weapons....

This terrorist could have been taken out a lot of different times and different ways along the 'road' to this happening. Trump says one guy with a gun inside the club could have made a difference. Maybe it would have. The jackass stops to reload and you step out, walking towards him, and empty your weapon into his head and chest.....Maybe it doesn't happen.

Claims that it would have helped are speculation.
Claims that it wouldn't are speculation.
Liberals latch on to such speculations and seek to attack as if theirs is 'fact'

Whatever...it's just political rhetoric / BS....

"If 'if's and 'but's were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas."
 
Let's be honest instead of partisan a-holes....

Had his co-worker or bosses reported him for 'constantly talking about killing people'...
Had the FBI been able to keep surveillance on this guy...
Had the night club not suspended their metal detection at the door (I read...)
Had there been more than one security guard positioned better / more strategically...
Had there been several people (or one, who knows) with legal concealed carry permits and weapons....

This terrorist could have been taken out a lot of different times and different ways along the 'road' to this happening. Trump says one guy with a gun inside the club could have made a difference. Maybe it would have. The jackass stops to reload and you step out, walking towards him, and empty your weapon into his head and chest.....Maybe it doesn't happen.

Claims that it would have helped are speculation.
Claims that it wouldn't are speculation.
Liberals latch on to such speculations and seek to attack as if theirs is 'fact'

Whatever...it's just political rhetoric / BS....

"If 'if's and 'but's were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas."

There WAS a guy with a gun inside the club - a policeman.
 
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
Speculation. Politically biased gibberish. Opinions are like a-holes, & you prove - as with everyone else - you've got one, too. Bravo.

:clap:
 
Let's be honest instead of partisan a-holes....

Had his co-worker or bosses reported him for 'constantly talking about killing people'...
Had the FBI been able to keep surveillance on this guy...
Had the night club not suspended their metal detection at the door (I read...)
Had there been more than one security guard positioned better / more strategically...
Had there been several people (or one, who knows) with legal concealed carry permits and weapons....

This terrorist could have been taken out a lot of different times and different ways along the 'road' to this happening. Trump says one guy with a gun inside the club could have made a difference. Maybe it would have. The jackass stops to reload and you step out, walking towards him, and empty your weapon into his head and chest.....Maybe it doesn't happen.

Claims that it would have helped are speculation.
Claims that it wouldn't are speculation.
Liberals latch on to such speculations and seek to attack as if theirs is 'fact'

Whatever...it's just political rhetoric / BS....

"If 'if's and 'but's were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas."

There WAS a guy with a gun inside the club - a policeman.
Who was caught by surprise. As I said, proper security called for 2, strategically placed in case something like this happened...but NO ONE suspected anything like this would happen.
 
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room

There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.

Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.

“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.

Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.

But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:

Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.

Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.​

Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.

“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.

Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.

More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre

Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.

There is no doubt in the mind of reasonable people of average and above intelligence that Donald Trump is both a charlatan and a demagogue. His comments over the past few days have proved this.
 
Progressives love it when their victims are unarmed, which is why they can't wait to white out the 2nd Amendment
 
Why won't Republicans allow guns at the Republican National Convention?
Because they expect security to be tight enough to keep rabid Hillary supporters outside. You could as well ask why the DNC will require attendees at the democrat convention to present ID in order to gain access, but fight tooth and nail to make sure they don't have to when voting.
 
A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.


Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
 
There is no doubt in the mind of reasonable people of average and above intelligence that Donald Trump is both a charlatan and a demagogue. His comments over the past few days have proved this.

Sorry, but 'because you say so' is not good enough. Have a nice day.
 
It's a freaking Huffpo BS article. Take it and wipe your rear, it's all Huffpo is good for
 
A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.


Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
Ultimately, everyone deserves a fighting chance to survive, and for most people, that's a weapon of some sort. Whether they choose to use it or die is no one else's concern. The point is to allow them that last line of defense and a chance.
 
A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.


Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
300 people packed into a night club, minus the ones who went down 1st, could have stopped him had they charged the SOB while he reloaded. Human nature being what it is, the self-preservation mode kicking in...
 

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