Trump: 14th Amendment is Unconstitutional

[The Rabbi]

Yeah I couldnt make this up if I tried. This is a "gutcheck" post. If you try to defend Trump's statement it is proof positive you are a complete moron and abject ignoramus. I dont care what your political leanings.
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-says-14th-amendment-is-127077752761.html

 

[PaintMyHouse]

“It’s not going to hold up in court,” Trump said on The Factor Tuesday."

How much longer must we suffer this circus sideshow? It's becoming farce.

 

[The Rabbi]

“It’s not going to hold up in court,” Trump said on The Factor Tuesday."

How much longer must we suffer this circus sideshow? It's becoming farce.

It's probably a bad sign that I agree with you.

 

[Vastator]

The Constitution has been amended before. Probably will be again sometime . In these uncertain times; I wouldn't rule anything out.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump is one of two things,

a. genuinely an idiot

b. or in a zone where he doesn't think there's anything he can say that will damage him.

...or maybe both...

 

[Unkotare]

Did he say the Constitution is unconstitutional?

Huh?????????????

 

[DarkFury]

It all depends on how the court defines a word. And that word is
ju·ris·dic·tion
ˌjo͝orəsˈdikSH(ə)n/
noun

1. the official power to make legal decisions and judgments.
   "federal courts had no jurisdiction over the case"
   synonyms: authority, control, power, dominion, rule, administration, command, sway,leadership, sovereignty, hegemony
   "an area under French jurisdiction"
   • the extent of the power to make legal decisions and judgments.
     "the claim will be within the jurisdiction of the industrial tribunal"
   • a system of law courts; a judicature.
     plural noun: jurisdictions
     "in some jurisdictions there is a mandatory death sentence for murder"
2. So now is it the land you are standing on OR the country you are sworn to?

 

[rightwinger]

Trump is one of two things,

a. genuinely an idiot

b. or in a zone where he doesn't think there's anything he can say that will damage him.

...or maybe both...

It is amazing what he gets away with and republicans tremble in fear

 

[Syriusly]

I cannot tell how this even more makes me want Trump to be the face of the Republican Party

 

[Syriusly]

It all depends on how the court defines a word. And that word is
ju·ris·dic·tion
ˌjo͝orəsˈdikSH(ə)n/
noun

1. 
   
   
   • the official power to make legal decisions and judgments.
     "federal courts had no jurisdiction over the case"
     synonyms: authority, control, power, dominion, rule, administration, command, sway,leadership, sovereignty, hegemony
     "an area under French jurisdiction"
     • the extent of the power to make legal decisions and judgments.
       "the claim will be within the jurisdiction of the industrial tribunal"
     • a system of law courts; a judicature.
       plural noun: jurisdictions
       "in some jurisdictions there is a mandatory death sentence for murder"
   • So now is it the land you are standing on OR the country you are sworn to?

If a French citizen robs a bank in Dallas, and is caught outside the bank- is he subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The 14th amendment for some reason inspires all sorts of crazy:

http://www.theatlantic.com/national...yth-8-the-14th-amendment-doesnt-exist/241858/

 

[NYcarbineer]

But let's not forget the arguments against gay marriage rights centered around disemboweling the 14th Amendment and its intent and purpose.

 

[cereal_killer]

Did he say the Constitution is unconstitutional?

Huh?????????????

It's Yahoo news and people don't listen (surprise). He never said that. He said that lawyers are saying the issue with anchor babies will not hold up in court and it will be tested out.

 

[The Rabbi]

It all depends on how the court defines a word. And that word is
ju·ris·dic·tion
ˌjo͝orəsˈdikSH(ə)n/
noun

1. 
   
   
   • the official power to make legal decisions and judgments.
     "federal courts had no jurisdiction over the case"
     synonyms: authority, control, power, dominion, rule, administration, command, sway,leadership, sovereignty, hegemony
     "an area under French jurisdiction"
     • the extent of the power to make legal decisions and judgments.
       "the claim will be within the jurisdiction of the industrial tribunal"
     • a system of law courts; a judicature.
       plural noun: jurisdictions
       "in some jurisdictions there is a mandatory death sentence for murder"
   • So now is it the land you are standing on OR the country you are sworn to?

Are you actually defending Trump's statement?

 

[cereal_killer]

People get their news from headlines and we wonder why there are so many uninformed people.

 

[Rotagilla]

the 14th wasn't legally ratified.
It was rammed through by an opportunistic and vengeful fed gvmt as further punishment for the southern states...which were ruled by military "provisional" governors who were appointed for the purpose of evading the normal constitutional requirements.

 

[rightwinger]

the 14th wasn't legally ratified.
It was rammed through by an opportunistic and vengeful fed gvmt as further punishment for the southern states...which were ruled by military "provisional" governors who were appointed for the purpose of evading the normal constitutional requirements.

By all means go with that

 

[DarkFury]

It all depends on how the court defines a word. And that word is
ju·ris·dic·tion
ˌjo͝orəsˈdikSH(ə)n/
noun

1. 
   
   
   • the official power to make legal decisions and judgments.
     "federal courts had no jurisdiction over the case"
     synonyms: authority, control, power, dominion, rule, administration, command, sway,leadership, sovereignty, hegemony
     "an area under French jurisdiction"
     • the extent of the power to make legal decisions and judgments.
       "the claim will be within the jurisdiction of the industrial tribunal"
     • a system of law courts; a judicature.
       plural noun: jurisdictions
       "in some jurisdictions there is a mandatory death sentence for murder"
   • So now is it the land you are standing on OR the country you are sworn to?

If a French citizen robs a bank in Dallas, and is caught outside the bank- is he subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?

Yes but IF that same robber robs a bank in Mexico as a Mexican citizen then flees to Dallas Mexico has FULL RIGHT to recall him.
The hair splitting here and that is what it is IS the legal ground described as the LAND you are standing on OR the country of your origin.

Take into account here that ILLEGALS do not renounce their country something that IS needed to migrate to ANY other country.

Case history for that would be as easy as Lee Harvey Oswald who went to Cuban and renounced his American citizenship and had to RE-APPLY before his return.

ANY citizen from ANY country that comes here and does NOT renounce their citizenship from their country of origin may NOT become a U.S. citizen.

So as much as it may piss off the OP Trump may have found a tiny flaw in the law.

 

[The Rabbi]

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ANY citizen from ANY country that comes here and does NOT renounce their citizenship from their country of origin may NOT become a U.S. citizen.

.

Simply untrue. There are plenty of dual citizens. I know some personally.

 

[candycorn]

Yeah I couldnt make this up if I tried. This is a "gutcheck" post. If you try to defend Trump's statement it is proof positive you are a complete moron and abject ignoramus. I dont care what your political leanings.
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/donald-trump-says-14th-amendment-is-127077752761.html

Jackson Care to comment on what your latest idol said?