Toomey (R-PA) is retiring. Great Senate pickup opportunity for Democrats

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Republicans will likely elect an unhinged Qanon kook to replace the relatively moderate Toomey, who voted for impeachment.
This increases the chances that Democrats pick up a Senate seat there.
 
Yep, and a good time to retire for republican senators, the senate party of insurrection for political gamesmanship.
 
Republicans will likely elect an unhinged Qanon kook to replace the relatively moderate Toomey, who voted for impeachment.
This increases the chances that Democrats pick up a Senate seat there.
Johnson in Wisconsin as well. Red (ungerrymanderable) seats in blue states. And you're likely to have a primary where you have a trump candidate and a sane one in PA....a sane one and Johnson in WI.

Portman is retiring from Ohio as well. Brown ( a democrat) just won re-election so....could be interesting.
 
Republicans will likely elect an unhinged Qanon kook to replace the relatively moderate Toomey, who voted for impeachment.
This increases the chances that Democrats pick up a Senate seat there.

They will likely pick up seats in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Those will likely be the only party switches.
 
Yep, and a good time to retire for republican senators, the senate party of insurrection for political gamesmanship.
How the RINOs divvy up the GOP with the trump Nazis will be an entertaining spectacle to see. Given the trump Nazis penchant for violence and ignoring the rule of law, there will most likely be bloodshed.




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They will likely pick up seats in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Those will likely be the only party switches.

How is it likely? Midterm elections generally favor the party not in the White House. Since both are swing states, by default the Republicans would be slightly favored to hold them. A lot of that, of course, will depend on how Americans are judging the Biden Administration at that time as well. Additionally, the candidates will play a role. Trumpism could doom the Republicans' chances. Likewise, a far left extremist, like John Fetterman, who has already announced his intention to run in Pennsylvania, could hurt the Democrats.
 
They will likely pick up seats in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Those will likely be the only party switches.

How is it likely? Midterm elections generally favor the party not in the White House. Since both are swing states, by default the Republicans would be slightly favored to hold them. A lot of that, of course, will depend on how Americans are judging the Biden Administration at that time as well. Additionally, the candidates will play a role. Trumpism could doom the Republicans' chances. Likewise, a far left extremist, like John Fetterman, who has already announced his intention to run in Pennsylvania, could hurt the Democrats.
No previous off-year midterm came after a crazy president was impeached twice.
And 2002 Republicans picked up two Senate seats despite George w bush being the president. That's because 2001 happened. When something significant happens, things are different. Instead of biting being on the defensive, the terrorist insider Donald Trump will be on the defensive.
In 2001 Bush didn't encourage people not to wear masks and didn't tell people that covid wasn't a big deal.
These midterms will be all mostly about Donald Trump's handling of the pandemic that Biden will have ended by then.

This is not your typical midterm.
 
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Republicans will likely elect an unhinged Qanon kook to replace the relatively moderate Toomey, who voted for impeachment.
This increases the chances that Democrats pick up a Senate seat there.
Johnson in Wisconsin as well. Red (ungerrymanderable) seats in blue states. And you're likely to have a primary where you have a trump candidate and a sane one in PA....a sane one and Johnson in WI.

Portman is retiring from Ohio as well. Brown ( a democrat) just won re-election so....could be interesting.
Link please confirming that Johnson (WI) is retiring in 2022. I don't see that confirmed anywhere.

Assuming the "out" party usually wins seats in the mid-terms, looks like the House and Senate will go GOP in 2022, unless the morons screw it up <again>, like running Doug Collins against Kelly Loeffler.
Looking ahead to the 2022 Senate races, here is a scorecard:

(2) Republicans who barely won last time, and (4) retirements:
Blunt (MO)
Johnson (WI) retiring???????
Portman (OH) retiring
Burr (NC) retiring
Toomey (PA) retiring
Shelby (AL) retiring

(5) Democrats who barely won last time:
Mark Kelly (AZ)
Bennett (CO)
Warnock (GA) Should be toast in 2022
Masto (NV)
Hassan (NH)
 
They will likely pick up seats in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Those will likely be the only party switches.

How is it likely? Midterm elections generally favor the party not in the White House. Since both are swing states, by default the Republicans would be slightly favored to hold them. A lot of that, of course, will depend on how Americans are judging the Biden Administration at that time as well. Additionally, the candidates will play a role. Trumpism could doom the Republicans' chances. Likewise, a far left extremist, like John Fetterman, who has already announced his intention to run in Pennsylvania, could hurt the Democrats.

In the Senate, it is generally a function of which seats are up. Even though Republicans have to defend far more seats than Democrats, most of them are relatively safe. Ron Johnson is batshit crazy and if he runs he will lose. Also Pennsylvania has generally leaned statewide to Democrats. Who says Fetterman is a right wing extremist? You? Also Republican legislators were all for overturning the election and ignoring the will of voters. Republican lefislators' attempts to make it harder for people to vote will not sit well with voters.

The 2022 races will be affected by 2 events. Republican attempts to steal the election will be a factor. In the House, Democrats should ask voters if they want to vote Republican and give crazy Republicans power. Republican House members voted by a 2-1 margin to steal the election. The second will be the terrorist attack by Republican members of QAnon. Republicans supported their quest to steal the election.

A third factor is that midterms are a reaction to the Presidential election. Generally the party that wins the Presidency picks up seats. That did not happen in 2020 because Republicans managed to con voters into believing that Democrats wanted to defund the police. Also Semocrats failed to talk about Republican extremism in terms of the coronavirus and right wing extremism in the Republican Party. The Republican majority leader appeared in a public forum with several people who were arrested by the FBI for plotting to kidnap the Democrat governor.
 
Republicans will likely elect an unhinged Qanon kook to replace the relatively moderate Toomey, who voted for impeachment.
This increases the chances that Democrats pick up a Senate seat there.
Johnson in Wisconsin as well. Red (ungerrymanderable) seats in blue states. And you're likely to have a primary where you have a trump candidate and a sane one in PA....a sane one and Johnson in WI.

Portman is retiring from Ohio as well. Brown ( a democrat) just won re-election so....could be interesting.
Link please confirming that Johnson (WI) is retiring in 2022. I don't see that confirmed anywhere.

Assuming the "out" party usually wins seats in the mid-terms, looks like the House and Senate will go GOP in 2022, unless the morons screw it up <again>, like running Doug Collins against Kelly Loeffler.
Looking ahead to the 2022 Senate races, here is a scorecard:

(2) Republicans who barely won last time, and (4) retirements:
Blunt (MO)
Johnson (WI) retiring???????
Portman (OH) retiring
Burr (NC) retiring
Toomey (PA) retiring
Shelby (AL) retiring

(5) Democrats who barely won last time:
Mark Kelly (AZ)
Bennett (CO)
Warnock (GA) Should be toast in 2022
Masto (NV)
Hassan (NH)

Republicans are in chaos in Arizona. Kelly will likely win a full term. Colorado is a Democrat state. In Georgia, Democrats are likely to win by a larger margin in ths suburbs. Nevada has moved into the leaning Democrat column. Republicans could have a hard time winning in New Hampsire except for Sununu in the governor's race.
 
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In the Senate, it is generally a function of which seats are up. Even though Republicans have to defend far more seats than Democrats, most of them are relatively safe. Ron Johnson is batshit crazy and if he runs he will lose.

Which is how he won the first two times?

Also Pennsylvania has generally leaned statewide to Democrats.

Not at all. Pennsylvania goes through a Democrat phase, then a Republican phase. Wash, rinse, repeat. Been this way for decades.

Who says Fetterman is a right wing extremist?

You, evidently

Also Republican legislators were all for overturning the election and ignoring the will of voters. Republican lefislators' attempts to make it harder for people to vote will not sit well with voters.

The 2022 races will be affected by 2 events. Republican attempts to steal the election will be a factor. In the House, Democrats should ask voters if they want to vote Republican and give crazy Republicans power. Republican House members voted by a 2-1 margin to steal the election. The second will be the terrorist attack by Republican members of QAnon. Republicans supported their quest to steal the election.

Awful lot of conjecture on your part here. You seem to forget that the public has a short memory. At the end of the day, the race will come down to the performance of the Biden administration and people's perception of his presidency. I remember after the 2006 midterms when Republicans lost the House and Senate and then in 2008 when Obama won the presidency and the Democrats obtained a supermajority how Democrats were saying it was the end of the Republican Party and a new era was being ushered in. Then the Dems got shellacked in the 2010 midterms all across the board. That made the Republicans think they had it made in 2012 to unseat Obama and yet, Obama got reelected in a landslide. Then in 2014 Dems thought they were taking everything back and they got spanked again.

The Democrats can only use Trump as a political hot potato for so long. He's gone now and the average person hasn't the slightest clue what QAnon even is. They have to produce or they can scream Trump until they are blue in the face. It won't matter.
 
No previous off-year midterm came after a crazy president was impeached twice.
And 2002 Republicans picked up two Senate seats despite George w bush being the president. That's because 2001 happened. When something significant happens, things are different. Instead of biting being on the defensive, the terrorist insider Donald Trump will be on the defensive.
In 2001 Bush didn't encourage people not to wear masks and didn't tell people that covid wasn't a big deal.
These midterms will be all mostly about Donald Trump's handling of the pandemic that Biden will have ended by then.

This is not your typical midterm.

And you saw this looking through your crystal ball?
 
Republicans will likely elect an unhinged Qanon kook to replace the relatively moderate Toomey, who voted for impeachment.
This increases the chances that Democrats pick up a Senate seat there.
Johnson in Wisconsin as well. Red (ungerrymanderable) seats in blue states. And you're likely to have a primary where you have a trump candidate and a sane one in PA....a sane one and Johnson in WI.

Portman is retiring from Ohio as well. Brown ( a democrat) just won re-election so....could be interesting.
Link please confirming that Johnson (WI) is retiring in 2022. I don't see that confirmed anywhere.

Assuming the "out" party usually wins seats in the mid-terms, looks like the House and Senate will go GOP in 2022, unless the morons screw it up <again>, like running Doug Collins against Kelly Loeffler.
Looking ahead to the 2022 Senate races, here is a scorecard:

(2) Republicans who barely won last time, and (4) retirements:
Blunt (MO)
Johnson (WI) retiring???????
Portman (OH) retiring
Burr (NC) retiring
Toomey (PA) retiring
Shelby (AL) retiring

(5) Democrats who barely won last time:
Mark Kelly (AZ)
Bennett (CO)
Warnock (GA) Should be toast in 2022
Masto (NV)
Hassan (NH)

Republicans are in chaos in Arizona. Kelly will likely win a full term. Colorado is a Democrat state. In Georgia, Democrats are likely to win by a larger margin in the suburbs. Nevada has moved into the leaning Democrat column. Republicans could have a hard time winning in New Hampshire except for Sununu in the governor's race.
In 2022 will the democrats' "Green New Deal" policies, China First policies, open border policies, and censorship policies gain traction or lose voters, especially women voters?
Johnson (WI) should hold serve in a mid-term
Portman (OH) retiring OH leans red
Burr (NC) retiring NC leans red
Toomey (PA) retiring tossup depending on candidates running
Shelby (AL) retiring deep red state

(5) Democrats who barely won last time:
Mark Kelly (AZ) the GOP has 2-years of the Xiden admin to gain voters
Bennett (CO) Agreed, probably stays blue
Warnock (GA) Should be toast in 2022. The GOP voters will turn out in a red state.
Masto (NV) not sure which message will play better in NV?
Hassan (NH) If Sununu can win so can a GOP senator, especially after seeing democrat policies

So IMHO the GOP picks up 2 seats, which is enough to swing the senate GOP in the 2022 mid-terms
 
We will just have to sit back and see what Quid Pro-quo Joe and is cadre produce. at this point its safe to say it will be a battle between National Socialism and Freedom.
His days were numbered, people are sick and tired of being treated like garbage.

The vast majority of Americans DESERVE to be treated like garbage because they ARE garbage.
Just another elite that subscribes to the belief that their opinion and viewpoints are superior to others, ask yourself again how we became so polarized? Without constructive and respectful discourse ones position can never win the day.
 

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