To Those On The Left: Why Are You Voting For Biden?

[JoeB131]

I'm not Trump. Why not vote for me?

I'm a lot younger and I've never filed for bankruptcy or grabbed anyone by the ***** (well, no one who didn't want me to). Why not vote for me?

You won't be on the ballot and don't have a reasonable chance of beating Trump.

 

[Canon Shooter]

I'm not Trump. Why not vote for me?

I'm a lot younger and I've never filed for bankruptcy or grabbed anyone by the ***** (well, no one who didn't want me to). Why not vote for me?

You won't be on the ballot and don't have a reasonable chance of beating Trump.

What you're saying is that you're voting against Trump, and not for Biden.

Pitiful and stupid...

 

[pknopp]

I'm not Trump. Why not vote for me?

I'm a lot younger and I've never filed for bankruptcy or grabbed anyone by the ***** (well, no one who didn't want me to). Why not vote for me?

You won't be on the ballot and don't have a reasonable chance of beating Trump.

What you're saying is that you're voting against Trump, and not for Biden.

Pitiful and stupid...

A lot of people who voted for Trump said the same about Hillary.

 

[Canon Shooter]

I'm not Trump. Why not vote for me?

I'm a lot younger and I've never filed for bankruptcy or grabbed anyone by the ***** (well, no one who didn't want me to). Why not vote for me?

You won't be on the ballot and don't have a reasonable chance of beating Trump.

What you're saying is that you're voting against Trump, and not for Biden.

Pitiful and stupid...

I'm not asking about Hillary vs. Trump. I didn't vote against Hillary, I voted for Trump. There were things he stood for which I agreed with.

But that's not what we're seeing here. What's come out of this whole thing is the undeniable fact that most people seem to believe that there's not a single thing Biden stands for, or any policy of his that they agree with, which is worth their vote...

 

[Manonthestreet]

Anyone who votes for someone who cant recite the oath of office much less fulfill it probably should quit posing as a deep thinking centrist

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a ******* choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a ******* choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

 

[gipper]

That’s it? The wall, police reform, and reduce carbon emissions. Those are all minor issues. Expanding Ocare is dumb. We need Medicareforall.

So, in essence, Joe offers fringe minor differences and that’s enough for you.

Nothing on stopping the non-stop wars, the ever expanding police state, the ever expanding fascism of big government, nothing income inequality, nothing on helping average Americans who have nothing and are drowning in debt. Nothing on reforming our justice system.Nothing...

Actually, quite a lot, but never mind. It's just as easy to let the Perfect be the enemy of the good.

Biden will be an improvement over Trump. If it were up to me, I'd be all for Single Payer, but the country (not Wall Street or the Corporations, but the people) aren't there yet. They like their private insurance and they want to keep it.

Fixing all of those other issues, most of them would require a much larger consensus on them that we have now. Take, "non-stop wars". Okay. When the war started, it had 93% approval. Bin Laden is dead, Al Qaeda is pretty much gone as an organization, but we are still there. Why? Because it isn't effecting most of us personally. We got rid of the draft, we don't have a loved one over there unless they chose to join the military.

The reason why you had riots in the street over Vietnam was because those folks didn't want to be drafted. No draft, no outrage. I'd pull the plug on the Afghanistan Circus right now, but I wouldn't have to live with the consequences if the Taliban takes over.

Biden won’t do anything. He’ll be another disappointment just like the black mascot for Wall Street but the MSM, academia, the deep state, big corporations, and the extreme wealthy will love him.

 

[gipper]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a ******* choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.

It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".

No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Are you HONESTLY saying that you, a politics junkie who claims to know every ******* thing, does not know what Biden’s platform is? You have no idea how he is likely to govern?

Talk about buying a bullshit narrative.

Please inform me of what policies and changes Joe is offering.

No. I’ll leave you to wallow in your willful ignorance.

Why bother if you simply want to avoid the actual issues? What was asked of you is not an irrational or ignorant question. By not answering all you are doing is admitting there are no major differences.

Couldn’t be honest, huh? Sad.

Why is Bernie endorsing Biden for president? What did Bernie say the Policy differences between Biden and Trump are when he endorsed him?

I can't say I ever heard him state the differences. Why is Bernie endorsing him? He doesn't want to get blamed if he loses. I would prefer he didn't but it's not a major issue as his endorsement doesn't mean all that much.

Why do die hard Bernie supporters trust him to run the nation but refuse to trust him when it comes to his endorsements?

I see that you “thanked” the comment about me voting for Hitler over Trump. That’s awesome.

Being that you are so evasive it gives people pause to wonder what else you would support. You still haven't answered a single question I asked you.

I’m sorry. What question have you asked?

I'm not going to go round and round with your evasion. You know what I (and others) have asked.

Ahhh. You want me to waste time and effort outlining the policy differences between Trump and Biden? That was Gipper’s BS question.

I’ll give you a few in video form...so you can then pretend that you didn’t see it and that I never answered your question.

Granted I stopped at the first difference. Created a data base........he's been in office for decades and he just now supports this (even though he didn't actually do anything to create it) now? What about the years he ignored police violence?

You didn’t even pay attention to the first difference. And then you stopped?

As I anticipated, you don’t really want to know the policy differences between Trump and Biden. You are not engaging in an honest discussion here.

I paid attention and addressed it. You ignored what I said. When the first point is bogus there is little reason to continue.

You didn’t pay attention. The video did not claim that Biden made a database. That was describing a Trump BS executive order.

Please. Try harder.

Here is the deal, contrarian.

I support much of Bernie’s agenda. I prefer a more aggressive progressive position than Biden usually takes. Bernie was not my first choice in 2020 but I did vote for him in the 2016 primary.

Policies are one part of the equation. And while there are VAST policy differences between Trump and Biden, my decision to vote FOR Biden is just as much a result of the other part of the equation.

Character.

Joe Biden is a better man. This is not something that any honest person will dispute.

So, if you *cough, cough* feel that they are the same policy wise, you’d STILL be in favor of Biden over Trump based solely on character.

Just like Bernie. Just like any reasonable progressive.

We are now done here.

"Better man" is subjective. He supported every foolish war we have engaged in. I can never describe someone like that as a "better man".

LL doesn’t know anything real about his record. CNN never told her.

Her? Idiot.

It? Moron.

 

[odanny]

I'll admit that this questions assumes that those on the left are going to vote for Joe Biden for President.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

Because he is not a neo Nazi supporting white supremacist is one of the first things that comes to mind.

 

[Mac1958]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a ******* choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a ******* choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

Holy shit, of course, all that is true. Trumpism is truly an ugly moment in this country's history.

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

The simplistic Trumpsters (sorry for the redundancy) here never seem to see me saying that second part, but I also point out that it's the tactics of the Regressive Left that contributed to Trump's 2016 win. This was the great PC pushback I kept warning about (although a lot worse than I was expecting).

The actions of both of these groups feed into the other. It's like a ******* mutant symbiotic relationship. Both are in this up to their ******* necks, and all they can do is point at the other because they don't have the balls to hold their own side accountable.

 

[OldLady]

What's come out of this whole thing is the undeniable fact that most people seem to believe that there's not a single thing Biden stands for, or any policy of his that they agree with, which is worth their vote...

Predictable; that's what you came into this thread believing and no amount of words will change your mind. You asked so you'd have a good excuse to trash him.

So since you put up a trash Biden thread, here's a postcard for you:

 

[LoneLaugher]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a ******* choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a ******* choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

Holy shit, of course, all that is true. Trumpism is truly an ugly moment in this country's history.

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

The simplistic Trumpsters (sorry for the redundancy) here never seem to see me saying that second part, but I also point out that it's the tactics of the Regressive Left that contributed to Trump's 2016 win. This was the great PC pushback I kept warning about (although a lot worse than I was expecting).

The actions of both of these groups feed into the other. It's like a ******* mutant symbiotic relationship. Both are in this up to their ******* necks, and all they can do is point at the other because they don't have the balls to hold their own side accountable.

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

 

[Canon Shooter]

What's come out of this whole thing is the undeniable fact that most people seem to believe that there's not a single thing Biden stands for, or any policy of his that they agree with, which is worth their vote...

Predictable; that's what you came into this thread believing and no amount of words will change your mind. You asked so you'd have a good excuse to trash him.

So, exactly how full of shit are you?

I asked why people are voting for Biden.

A spare few were intelligent enough to understand that a vote for a person should be based on that person's positions and their platform and what they believe. I stated that I might not agree with them, but I can respect them because they actually plan on voting for the guy who shares their ideals.

And then there are the stupid ones who actually have no idea what Biden stands for, nor do they care, because they're not actually voting for Biden.

If you think this thread was all about finding an excuse to trash Biden, you're pretty stupid. Then again, as this thread is actually about the stupidity of most voters on the left, you're fitting right in...

 

[Mac1958]

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

You're just like the Trumpsters. Who? What? Huh?

Be curious. Listen to others. You're on the internet. Look around.

 

[Regent23]

A number of political parties have died in the US, mostly conservative,
and it would be a shame to lose another. The real question is why do they nominate such losers as Trump?

 

[BWK]

I'll admit that this questions assumes that those on the left are going to vote for Joe Biden for President.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

Because the Right has failed at their messaging. The one big take away from this video, is the same big takeaway it always has been. Argue the facts, and when the facts aren't convenient, attack the messenger. Hannity on this clip with Cuban could not change the facts, so Cuban became the target. This is what your OP is doing. It's doing the same thing. You can't argue any facts either, so you turn it around to ask a stupid question. That's how the Right rolls. Everything Hannity argued there was easily destroyed by Cuban. That's why Biden gets my vote.

 

[JoeB131]

What you're saying is that you're voting against Trump, and not for Biden.

Pitiful and stupid...

Um, yeah. Voting against Trump is worthwhile in and of itself.

I also gave you a more complete list of my reasoning in another post, but it probably had too many big words for you.

 

[JoeB131]

I'm not asking about Hillary vs. Trump. I didn't vote against Hillary, I voted for Trump. There were things he stood for which I agreed with.

But that's not what we're seeing here. What's come out of this whole thing is the undeniable fact that most people seem to believe that there's not a single thing Biden stands for, or any policy of his that they agree with, which is worth their vote...

WHy are you debating yourself... that's master-debating.

The thing is, while it is nice to be voting for a group of policies, I've been voting since 1980's, and none of these guys keep their promises.

I guess that's something you can say about Trump, he made no bones that he would be an awful person, and he's totally lived up to that.

The things Biden is going to do I agree with.

He will do real reform of law enforcement.
He will expand and build on the great start with Health Care.
He will reform immigration.

 

[LoneLaugher]

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

You're just like the Trumpsters. Who? What? Huh?

Be curious. Listen to others. You're on the internet. Look around.

I don't know of any Dem elected official who advocates for coddling anyone or lowering expectations for black Americans.

If you do, please provide an example. Thanks.

 

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At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

"Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history."

^^ Yes, my above comment was touching on that. The white guilt is turning everything politically correct. It's Authoritarianism in the opposite political direction.

One side is saying: 'We're the majority. What we say goes. Worship at our alter of the almighty dollar. We don't understand why the darkies are so angry. Everything is fine. This 'racism' gobbleygook is a hoax. This 'pandemic' gobbleygook was engineered by the commies to kill us and make us commies. It's largely a hoax anyway. Only freeloaders are dying from it anyway. Agree with us, or you're a communist that must be destroyed!'

Another side is saying: 'Check your privilege. Everyone is equal, you racist. And if that doesn't pan out, it's a systemic problem you created, thus you need to address and solve it, you racist. If you refuse to address and solve it, we will publicly shame you with everything in your past we disapprove of. What we says goes. If it harms or offends you in some way, then that is just a part of your privelege to be harmed and offended. Agree with us, or you're an authoritarian racist that must be destroyed!

The disconnect is beyond reason and rationality.