To Those On The Left: Why Are You Voting For Biden?

[Canon Shooter]

I'm not asking about Hillary vs. Trump. I didn't vote against Hillary, I voted for Trump. There were things he stood for which I agreed with.

But that's not what we're seeing here. What's come out of this whole thing is the undeniable fact that most people seem to believe that there's not a single thing Biden stands for, or any policy of his that they agree with, which is worth their vote...

WHy are you debating yourself... that's master-debating.

The thing is, while it is nice to be voting for a group of policies, I've been voting since 1980's, and none of these guys keep their promises.

I guess that's something you can say about Trump, he made no bones that he would be an awful person, and he's totally lived up to that.

The things Biden is going to do I agree with.

He will do real reform of law enforcement.
He will expand and build on the great start with Health Care.
He will reform immigration.

And you were clear, however, that the most compelling reason for you to vote for him has nothing to do with any of that.

How is Biden going to reform law enforcement? How will he reform immigration?

Will he get those things completed satisfactorily in his first year? Remember, the left lambasted Trump for not making good on his campaign promises within a rather short period of time. Biden should, therefore, expect the same type of response if he fails to move in a hurry...

 

[basquebromance]

whoever wins in November, life goes on and our republic will endure, my friends

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

Holy shit, of course, all that is true. Trumpism is truly an ugly moment in this country's history.

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

The simplistic Trumpsters (sorry for the redundancy) here never seem to see me saying that second part, but I also point out that it's the tactics of the Regressive Left that contributed to Trump's 2016 win. This was the great PC pushback I kept warning about (although a lot worse than I was expecting).

The actions of both of these groups feed into the other. It's like a fucking mutant symbiotic relationship. Both are in this up to their fucking necks, and all they can do is point at the other because they don't have the balls to hold their own side accountable.

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

Society. But you strike me as a 'not my problem' type. If it doesn't affect you personally, it doesn't exist, amirite?

 

[Mac1958]

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

"Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history."

^^ Yes, my above comment was touching on that. The white guilt is turning everything politically correct. It's Authoritarianism in the opposite political direction.

One side is saying: 'We're the majority. What we say goes. Worship at our alter of the almighty dollar. We don't understand why the darkies are so angry. Everything is fine. This 'racism' gobbleygook is a hoax. This 'pandemic' gobbleygook was engineered by the commies to kill us and make us commies. It's largely a hoax anyway. Only freeloaders are dying from it anyway. Agree with us, or you're a communist that must be destroyed!'

Another side is saying: 'Check your privilege. Everyone is equal, you racist. And if that doesn't pan out, it's a systemic problem you created, thus you need to address and solve it, you racist. If you refuse to address and solve it, we will publicly shame you with everything in your past we disapprove of. What we says goes. If it harms or offends you in some way, then that is just a part of your privelege to be harmed and offended. Agree with us, or you're an authoritarian racist that must be destroyed!

The disconnect is beyond reason and rationality.

The thing is, each end of this does make some perfectly reasonable points. The problem is that, in this psychotic environment, they automatically (a) go FAR too far with pretty much everything, turning their "arguments" into comical hyperbole, (b) make absolutely ZERO effort to accurately understand and appreciate ANY perspectives or concerns of the other, and (c) absolutely REFUSE to admit ANY faults or destructive behaviors of their side.

These are fundamental characteristics of normal, healthy human communication and interaction, and it seems like they've completely broken down.

 

[OldLady]

What's come out of this whole thing is the undeniable fact that most people seem to believe that there's not a single thing Biden stands for, or any policy of his that they agree with, which is worth their vote...

Predictable; that's what you came into this thread believing and no amount of words will change your mind. You asked so you'd have a good excuse to trash him.

So, exactly how full of shit are you?

I asked why people are voting for Biden.

A spare few were intelligent enough to understand that a vote for a person should be based on that person's positions and their platform and what they believe. I stated that I might not agree with them, but I can respect them because they actually plan on voting for the guy who shares their ideals.

And then there are the stupid ones who actually have no idea what Biden stands for, nor do they care, because they're not actually voting for Biden.

If you think this thread was all about finding an excuse to trash Biden, you're pretty stupid. Then again, as this thread is actually about the stupidity of most voters on the left, you're fitting right in...

I stand corrected.

 

[LoneLaugher]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

Holy shit, of course, all that is true. Trumpism is truly an ugly moment in this country's history.

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

The simplistic Trumpsters (sorry for the redundancy) here never seem to see me saying that second part, but I also point out that it's the tactics of the Regressive Left that contributed to Trump's 2016 win. This was the great PC pushback I kept warning about (although a lot worse than I was expecting).

The actions of both of these groups feed into the other. It's like a fucking mutant symbiotic relationship. Both are in this up to their fucking necks, and all they can do is point at the other because they don't have the balls to hold their own side accountable.

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

Society. But you strike me as a 'not my problem' type. If it doesn't affect you personally, it doesn't exist, amirite?

That was a weird take on what I have said. Are you weird?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

"Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history."

^^ Yes, my above comment was touching on that. The white guilt is turning everything politically correct. It's Authoritarianism in the opposite political direction.

One side is saying: 'We're the majority. What we say goes. Worship at our alter of the almighty dollar. We don't understand why the darkies are so angry. Everything is fine. This 'racism' gobbleygook is a hoax. This 'pandemic' gobbleygook was engineered by the commies to kill us and make us commies. It's largely a hoax anyway. Only freeloaders are dying from it anyway. Agree with us, or you're a communist that must be destroyed!'

Another side is saying: 'Check your privilege. Everyone is equal, you racist. And if that doesn't pan out, it's a systemic problem you created, thus you need to address and solve it, you racist. If you refuse to address and solve it, we will publicly shame you with everything in your past we disapprove of. What we says goes. If it harms or offends you in some way, then that is just a part of your privelege to be harmed and offended. Agree with us, or you're an authoritarian racist that must be destroyed!

The disconnect is beyond reason and rationality.

The thing is, each end of this does make some perfectly reasonable points. The problem is that, in this psychotic environment, they automatically (a) go FAR too far with pretty much everything, turning their "arguments" into comical hyperbole, (b) make absolutely ZERO effort to accurately understand and appreciate ANY perspectives or concerns of the other, and (c) absolutely REFUSE to admit ANY faults or destructive behaviors of their side.

These are fundamental characteristics of normal, healthy human communication and interaction, and it seems like they've completely broken down.

You know what that is? It's an argument between narcissists.

 

[Taz]

Because Biden knows that Finland isn't part of Russia.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

Holy shit, of course, all that is true. Trumpism is truly an ugly moment in this country's history.

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

The simplistic Trumpsters (sorry for the redundancy) here never seem to see me saying that second part, but I also point out that it's the tactics of the Regressive Left that contributed to Trump's 2016 win. This was the great PC pushback I kept warning about (although a lot worse than I was expecting).

The actions of both of these groups feed into the other. It's like a fucking mutant symbiotic relationship. Both are in this up to their fucking necks, and all they can do is point at the other because they don't have the balls to hold their own side accountable.

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

Society. But you strike me as a 'not my problem' type. If it doesn't affect you personally, it doesn't exist, amirite?

That was a weird take on what I have said. Are you weird?

No. Do you lack any curiosity and introspection? This is an exchange of ideas. IMO, it was a kind of derpy question you really should have expanded on.

 

[LoneLaugher]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

Holy shit, of course, all that is true. Trumpism is truly an ugly moment in this country's history.

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

The simplistic Trumpsters (sorry for the redundancy) here never seem to see me saying that second part, but I also point out that it's the tactics of the Regressive Left that contributed to Trump's 2016 win. This was the great PC pushback I kept warning about (although a lot worse than I was expecting).

The actions of both of these groups feed into the other. It's like a fucking mutant symbiotic relationship. Both are in this up to their fucking necks, and all they can do is point at the other because they don't have the balls to hold their own side accountable.

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

Society. But you strike me as a 'not my problem' type. If it doesn't affect you personally, it doesn't exist, amirite?

That was a weird take on what I have said. Are you weird?

No. Do you lack any curiosity and introspection? This is an exchange of ideas. IMO, it was a kind of derpy question you really should have expanded on.

I wish to know which elected Dem advocates for lowered standards and expectations for black people. Can you tell me who is
doing that? Thanks.

 

[XponentialChaos]

All of this has confirmed my suspicion, that being that, for the most part, the left would vote for a fish instead of Trump.

I could have told you that from the beginning. Yes, I would vote for a fish instead of Trump.

Are you surprised that the left REALLY does not like Trump? That's really the goal here.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I'm not Trump. Why not vote for me?

Because you don't have a chance at winning and I would be throwing my vote away.

But if it came down to you or Trump, I would vote for you. I don't know anything about you, and I'd still vote for you.

Canon Shooter 2020.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

Holy shit, of course, all that is true. Trumpism is truly an ugly moment in this country's history.

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

The simplistic Trumpsters (sorry for the redundancy) here never seem to see me saying that second part, but I also point out that it's the tactics of the Regressive Left that contributed to Trump's 2016 win. This was the great PC pushback I kept warning about (although a lot worse than I was expecting).

The actions of both of these groups feed into the other. It's like a fucking mutant symbiotic relationship. Both are in this up to their fucking necks, and all they can do is point at the other because they don't have the balls to hold their own side accountable.

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

Society. But you strike me as a 'not my problem' type. If it doesn't affect you personally, it doesn't exist, amirite?

That was a weird take on what I have said. Are you weird?

No. Do you lack any curiosity and introspection? This is an exchange of ideas. IMO, it was a kind of derpy question you really should have expanded on.

I wish to know which elected Dem advocates for lowered standards and expectations for black people. Can you tell me who is
doing that? Thanks.

Why go right to Dem 'advocates'? That makes me presume you don't think Rep 'advocates' share any responsibility for lowering standards and expectations for black people. Why can't some these responsibilities lie at the feet of both parties?

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, Mitlaufer Mac, who are those, exactly? Seems to me both sides understand each other pretty well.

Heck, I voted Republican for years, before I realized the absolute loons had taken over.

I did, too. Starting with Reagan in 1980. Last time I voted Republican was for Bush Sr. in 1992. Then saw the sheer stupidity of the Gulf War and how fucking cozy Bush was with the Saudis. I was done. And forget about Dubya! Went to two protests in D.C. when that fucker started bombing Iraq.

 

[basquebromance]

Biden might say the wrong thing at a debate, or have an awkward moment in an interview or at a press conference. Trump’s massive advertising campaign might begin to resonate, hurting Biden’s favorability ratings. Biden’s campaign might make poor decisions about spending allocations in the battleground states, or the coverage of his campaign may sour if he loses even a percentage point or two in polls.

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

whoever wins in November, life goes on and our republic will endure, my friends

Ummm.....would like to think this country could survive if the Orange Anus wins again.
But if he's THIS BAD when he's facing an election,
how the fuck bad is he going to be when he doesn't have to worry about running for office again?

 

[Mac1958]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

Holy shit, of course, all that is true. Trumpism is truly an ugly moment in this country's history.

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

The simplistic Trumpsters (sorry for the redundancy) here never seem to see me saying that second part, but I also point out that it's the tactics of the Regressive Left that contributed to Trump's 2016 win. This was the great PC pushback I kept warning about (although a lot worse than I was expecting).

The actions of both of these groups feed into the other. It's like a fucking mutant symbiotic relationship. Both are in this up to their fucking necks, and all they can do is point at the other because they don't have the balls to hold their own side accountable.

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

Society. But you strike me as a 'not my problem' type. If it doesn't affect you personally, it doesn't exist, amirite?

That was a weird take on what I have said. Are you weird?

No. Do you lack any curiosity and introspection? This is an exchange of ideas. IMO, it was a kind of derpy question you really should have expanded on.

I wish to know which elected Dem advocates for lowered standards and expectations for black people. Can you tell me who is
doing that? Thanks.

Why go right to Dem 'advocates'? That makes me presume you don't think Rep 'advocates' share any responsibility for lowering standards and expectations for black people. Why can't some these responsibilities lie at the feet of both parties?

This is a game he plays. Notice he says "elected Dem", and not anyone else. No one from popular culture or politicos or pundits or media or education or people on the street.

Then he'll ask for examples, I'll give them, and they won't be good enough. I could give 500, and none will be good enough.

Just like when a Trumpster wants you to point out lies or stupid things he's said. Nothing ever sticks, nothing is ever good enough.

I decided long ago this stuff isn't worth the effort.

 

[LoneLaugher]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

Holy shit, of course, all that is true. Trumpism is truly an ugly moment in this country's history.

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

The simplistic Trumpsters (sorry for the redundancy) here never seem to see me saying that second part, but I also point out that it's the tactics of the Regressive Left that contributed to Trump's 2016 win. This was the great PC pushback I kept warning about (although a lot worse than I was expecting).

The actions of both of these groups feed into the other. It's like a fucking mutant symbiotic relationship. Both are in this up to their fucking necks, and all they can do is point at the other because they don't have the balls to hold their own side accountable.

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

Society. But you strike me as a 'not my problem' type. If it doesn't affect you personally, it doesn't exist, amirite?

That was a weird take on what I have said. Are you weird?

No. Do you lack any curiosity and introspection? This is an exchange of ideas. IMO, it was a kind of derpy question you really should have expanded on.

I wish to know which elected Dem advocates for lowered standards and expectations for black people. Can you tell me who is
doing that? Thanks.

Why go right to Dem 'advocates'? That makes me presume you don't think Rep 'advocates' share any responsibility for lowering standards and expectations for black people. Why can't some these responsibilities lie at the feet of both parties?

The comment that I referred to concerned the "regressives" on the left......not Republicans.

I do not believe that there has been an effort on the part of any influential person or group to
coddle black Americans and lower expectations for them. I find that assertion to be without merit.

Until someone provides some evidence to the contrary, we are not having a discussion so much as
a pointless series of baseless claims.

 

[LoneLaugher]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, but respectfully, that doesn't make it any clearer.

IMO, The Cult wants to pretend racial injustice in this country only started with Floyd's murder. When called to the mat about it, they have doubled down on madness. They claim whites are being persecuted. They completely disavow the existence of any institutional problems of minorities as a result of marginalization. The racists highlight inferiority of other races as an excuse for this behavior, as they shift the narrative to now paint them as anarchists, socialists and communists.

Those painted as such are rebelling in the opposite direction. They are highlighting white privilege. They are looking for anything, literally anything to paint Caucasians as racists, authoritarians and misogynists as an excuse to try and reshape reality and history.

Would you agree?

Holy shit, of course, all that is true. Trumpism is truly an ugly moment in this country's history.

At the same time, though, we have the Regressive Left, who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation.

The simplistic Trumpsters (sorry for the redundancy) here never seem to see me saying that second part, but I also point out that it's the tactics of the Regressive Left that contributed to Trump's 2016 win. This was the great PC pushback I kept warning about (although a lot worse than I was expecting).

The actions of both of these groups feed into the other. It's like a fucking mutant symbiotic relationship. Both are in this up to their fucking necks, and all they can do is point at the other because they don't have the balls to hold their own side accountable.

"who have enabled the worst behaviors of American Blacks by coddling them and lowering standards and expectations for them, and who have weaponized PC and Identity Politics for terribly cynical political advantage and to control the conversation."

You say it....but who has lowered standards and expectations for black people, exactly?

Society. But you strike me as a 'not my problem' type. If it doesn't affect you personally, it doesn't exist, amirite?

That was a weird take on what I have said. Are you weird?

No. Do you lack any curiosity and introspection? This is an exchange of ideas. IMO, it was a kind of derpy question you really should have expanded on.

I wish to know which elected Dem advocates for lowered standards and expectations for black people. Can you tell me who is
doing that? Thanks.

Why go right to Dem 'advocates'? That makes me presume you don't think Rep 'advocates' share any responsibility for lowering standards and expectations for black people. Why can't some these responsibilities lie at the feet of both parties?

This is a game he plays. Notice he says "elected Dem", and not anyone else. No one from popular culture or politicos or pundits or media or education or people on the street.

Then he'll ask for examples, I'll give them, and they won't be good enough. I could give 500, and none will be good enough.

Just like when a Trumpster wants you to point out lies or stupid things he's said. Nothing ever sticks, nothing is ever good enough.

I decided long ago this stuff isn't worth the effort.

You have given no examples.

Black Americans are not coddled in this nation.

 

[Canon Shooter]

All of this has confirmed my suspicion, that being that, for the most part, the left would vote for a fish instead of Trump.

I could have told you that from the beginning. Yes, I would vote for a fish instead of Trump.

Are you surprised that the left REALLY does not like Trump? That's really the goal here.

When I cast my vote for someone, it's because I believe the same as they do (generally speaking). I share their ideals. I agree with their positions on issues.

If two candidates were running and I agreed with neither of them, I would vote for neither of them.

That's called "integrity", a concept which is clearly lost on my folks on the left here...