To those of you that hate ICE...

[JoeB131]

Correct they get it through fraud, see Tampon Timmy’s state

Actually, a lot of the people involved in the MN Fraud were white citizens, but don't let that stop you.

 

[struth]

Actually, a lot of the people involved in the MN Fraud were white citizens, but don't let that stop you.

No doubt there are a lot of citizens that help illegals get fraudulent stuff

Starts at the top, tampon Timmy’s govt

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

How do you know that if you never have hearings? The problem is, most of them would be approved because the countries these people come from are ones that our government has already designated as human rights abusers.

I would be more sympathetic if we didn’t already have millions here illegally.

Hug that plushie harder.

Hate that Catholic kid a little harder. Keep sticking pins in your Sandmann voodoo doll. Maybe one day he’ll decide not to be Catholic and you can accept him.

It shouldn't be an arduous process. It should be no harder than getting any other benefit from marriage.

You can blame all the brown fraudsters for that.

Yeah, except it doesn't really work that way.

Yes, it does.

Many of my wife's friends are married to American men. None of them have applied for divorce or annulment, even after they got their citizenship.

Good for them. In that case, welcome to America and I hope they have long and happy marriages.

As for the others, they should be deported. In the meatime, the process should remain as stringent as it is to weed out the fraudsters.

 

[Care4all]

Thats only half the story

Biden welcomed millions of illegal aliens who didnt even show up with a phony sob story

They included those people in the 5.8 million it says above...they are the parolees mentioned.

What appears not to be included, but I am uncertain, is the gotaways.

 

[JoeB131]

Good for them. In that case, welcome to America and I hope they have long and happy marriages.

As for the others, they should be deported. In the meatime, the process should remain as stringent as it is to weed out the fraudsters.

Nope. Marriage Certificate. That should be it.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Except the people he fired were the ones who knew how to do the job.

Of course, when he ***** up, it's always someone else's fault. In this case, Elon is the fall guy.

/—-/ Oh, so you think Trump was personally running DOGE. Ever hear of delegation?
I can’t stop laughing.

 

[JoeB131]

/—-/ Oh, so you think Trump was personally running DOGE. Ever hear of delegation?
I can’t stop laughing.

As we used to say when I was in the army, you can't delegate responsibility.

If Trump let Musk gut the government, then it's still Trump's fault.

 

[Cellblock2429]

As we used to say when I was in the army, you can't delegate responsibility.

If Trump let Musk gut the government, then it's still Trump's fault.

/----/ Musk had no power to fire anyone. He made recommendations to Congress. DERP

 

[Nostra]

Actually, a lot of the people involved in the MN Fraud were white citizens, but don't let that stop you.

So going after them isn’t racist.

Cool.

 

[Nostra]

Actually, a lot of the people involved in the MN Fraud were white citizens, but don't let that stop you.

 

[Mac-7]

They included those people in the 5.8 million it says above...they are the parolees mentioned.

What appears not to be included, but I am uncertain, is the gotaways.

I dont know how many and neither do you

 

[JoeB131]

/----/ Musk had no power to fire anyone. He made recommendations to Congress. DERP

Congress never voted on anything.

Musk was the one who went thorugh slashing jobs, offering illegal buyouts, etc.

Look, man, I know that DOGE was a shit-show, stop trying to pretend it wasn't all you.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Nope. Marriage Certificate. That should be it.

That would be justified if so many had not defrauded the system.

You seem to be unable to grasp that the government is not at fault here. Scads of people took advantage of the system and the government had to respond in some way. It’s as simple as that.

Your ersatz sympathies for so called “brown people” is partly what got us in this mess in the first place.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I've been Doxxed about three times on this board. Two of them have been permabanned and one doesn't show up that much anymore.

Do you know what I'm NOT doing? I'm not rounding up children in the middle of the night. I'm not tear-gassing clergymen.

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I'm wondering if you know what the Gestapo was really like. Leftists bandy the word about as if they have firsthand experience with it.

 

[JoeB131]

I'm wondering if you know what the Gestapo was really like. Leftists bandy the word about as if they have firsthand experience with it.

I had relatives who lived in Nazi Germany. Yes, we know exactly what the Gestapo was like.

One cousin of my father was a Catholic Priest. He said something on the pulpit that the Nazis didn't like and found himself sent to Nordhausen. (Which, coincidentally, was liberated by the US VII Corps, with which my father served as a medic with the US Army.)

Not to say that my family were all profiles in courage. My grandfather's brother joined the NSDAP to keep his cushy government job, and his son went off to die on the Eastern Front. (After the war, the brother was held by the British as a Mitläufer for a time.)

The Gestapo, like ICE, operates on fear. My wife is a legal immigrant. But given how many legal immigrants have been deported by the Orange Fuhrer to try to make Miller's ridiculous numbers, that's little protection.

So, um, yeah, I don't throw the terms "Nazi" and "Gestapo" around lightly. This is where we are heading. Secret Police, detention of minorities without due process, rigged elections.

 

[JoeB131]

That would be justified if so many had not defrauded the system.

You seem to be unable to grasp that the government is not at fault here. Scads of people took advantage of the system and the government had to respond in some way. It’s as simple as that.

Your ersatz sympathies for so called “brown people” is partly what got us in this mess in the first place.

Define "so many".

The government is entirely at fault here. For years, they've underfunded USCIS and let immigration cases hang in limbo for years. My wife and I will be coming up on nearly our third anniversary before our case is finally resolved. That assumes that Cheeto Hitler doesn't find new ways to gum up the works.

Asylum cases can be held up for up to 10 years.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Define "so many".

The government is entirely at fault here. For years, they've underfunded USCIS and let immigration cases hang in limbo for years. My wife and I will be coming up on nearly our third anniversary before our case is finally resolved. That assumes that Cheeto Hitler doesn't find new ways to gum up the works.

Asylum cases can be held up for up to 10 years.

That happens when you have millions to process.

I’m sorry, but I just can’t get worked up over this with millions coming here illegally and the government basically doing nothing to stop it for decades.

Now when something is finally being done, people are freaking out over immigration law actually being enforced as if every ******* country on this planet isn’t enforcing immigration law. Every one of them does but when we do it, it’s racist.

 

[Care4all]

I dont know how many and neither do you

What do you mean? You don't know how many of what?

Mac, I think you may be underestimating the power of propaganda...and end up repeating what you've heard to promote it further.

There were not 12 million to 20 million let in at the border as you posted, by Biden....

Not even close to that number of unlawful entries...less that HALF of what you've stated, including those who Biden brought in by a system called PAROLE....which let some in by applying ahead of entry with sponsors and all of their information given...coming in through our legal ports of entry, who are called parolees....

It was 5.8 million let in by Biden, including parolees. AGAIN, NOT 12 to 20 million.

There were also an estimated 2 million GOTAWAYS, who avoided being caught by border patrol agents....and are likely not in the 5.8 million that Biden gave permission to enter in, under seeking asylum rules.

 

[Care4all]

Now when something is finally being done, people are freaking out over immigration law actually being enforced as if every ******* country on this planet isn’t enforcing immigration law.

Every country is not doing this, in this masked round up, as cruel as possible manner....

It's shameful, disgusting, harmful, dehumanizing, and an unChristian like manner when it could be done much differently, and still accomplish their goal, for half of the billions they are spending in our tax monies to do it imo.

 

[JoeB131]

That happens when you have millions to process.

I’m sorry, but I just can’t get worked up over this with millions coming here illegally and the government basically doing nothing to stop it for decades.

Now when something is finally being done, people are freaking out over immigration law actually being enforced as if every ******* country on this planet isn’t enforcing immigration law. Every one of them does but when we do it, it’s racist.

Then you hire enough people to process them.

The reason why Cheeto Hitler doesn't want to do that is probably half of them would have been granted aslyum.