Don't give up the face masks

The new bill introduced into the Senate offers to ban face masks for immigrations and customs enforcement... As a sweetener it also offers to increase penalties for doxing federal agents.

Reps. Brian Fitzpatrick, Tom Suozzi to unveil bill to reopen DHS, bar ICE from wearing masks

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This is a major ruse. Giving up the face mask will expose the ice agents to immediate persecution and their families to immediate danger. Increased penalties mean nothing when the court system is dominated by rogue judges; And it means nothing after your family is already dead.

Don't give up the face masks.

Jo
It's a shame that ICE have to wear masks. But, since democrats seem to be totally fine with putting their lives in danger, it leaves them no choice.
 
That is EXACTLY why ICE needs to wear masks. The Democrats have convinced their maniacal base that ICE agents are GESTAPO and have put their lives in danger. Just like their relentless claims that Donald Trump is HITLER nearly got his head blown off in Butler Pa.
The loser who shot Orange Jesus had no politics at all. He was just another nut with a gun. Thank the NRA aka Nation`s Real Ayeholes.
 
While I certainly understand the argument that masks help protect law enforcement (and I'm fine with it situationally), I think that they can make it harder to ensure accountability. Law enforcement members have an awful lot of power over the lives of average citizens. It's extremely important that they cannot exercise that power with impunity.

There have been far too many documented (and almost certainly many, many more undocumented) instances of law enforcement abusing their power. I am in no way saying that the majority of law enforcement personnel do this; I am only saying that it has happened often enough, and law enforcement holds enough power, that I consider it imperative that proper checks and methods of accountability are in place. Part of that accountability is the ability of average citizens to record interactions with law enforcement. Masks which are intended to conceal identity make it much easier for that accountability to be avoided.

It's not a simple issue because of the ability people have to cause trouble for law enforcement officers once their identities are known. As others have pointed out, though, that holds true for the average law enforcement personnel who do not wear masks.

This issue is NOT simply people being opposed to law enforcement, or people being pro-authoritarianism, or any of the other black-and-white arguments that posters might want to simplify it into. There are valid points to make both pro- and anti- masks for law enforcement.
 
I agree, the leftist rioters across this nation for years at one riot after another have worn masks. You really need to tell your fellow leftists that you feel this way about their behavior. We've been saying it for years, now you should too.
Antifa won't even admit it's existence.
 
Maybe not all, but 'office' jobs, developer, auditor, etc... pay very well, and have much better benefits than private sector.

I know of someone that retired at 56 with full social security benefits plus pension, why you see so many 'younger' people retiring from a federal government position.

The FERS Annuity Supplement (or Special Retirement Supplement) acts as a "bridge" for federal employees who retire before age 62, matching the Social Security benefit earned during their federal career. It applies to FERS employees with 30 years of service at their MRA (Minimum Retirement Age) or 20 years at age 60, lasting until age 62.
Government Executive +2
Key Details of the FERS Bridge Benefit
  • Eligibility: Must be under FERS (not CSRS) and retire with an immediate, non-disability annuity.
  • Duration: Paid from retirement until age 62.
  • Earnings Limit: The supplement is subject to an earnings test (similar to Social Security) and can be reduced or eliminated if you work after retirement.
  • Calculation: Calculated based on the amount of Social Security a retiree earned while under the FERS system.
  • Stop Payment: The benefit stops when the recipient turns 62, regardless of whether they choose to file for Social Security.
  • Recent Status: The benefit has faced legislative scrutiny, with proposals to modify or eliminate it.

"I know of someone that retired at 56 with full social security benefits plus pension, why you see so many 'younger' people retiring from a federal government position."

No, they didn't retire at 56 with full Social Security. You don't get that until FRA (Full Retirement Age)

What the FERS Annuity Supplement does is attempts to mimic SS reduced benefits until age 62 when the individual can choose to either take early/reduced Social Security or delay SS until FRA, but either way (as you note, it stops at 62).

WW
 
Yeah. Actually thugs only feel safe hiding behind masks.
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Maybe not all, but 'office' jobs, developer, auditor, etc... pay very well, and have much better benefits than private sector.

I know of someone that retired at 56 with full social security benefits plus pension, why you see so many 'younger' people retiring from a federal government position.

The FERS Annuity Supplement (or Special Retirement Supplement) acts as a "bridge" for federal employees who retire before age 62, matching the Social Security benefit earned during their federal career. It applies to FERS employees with 30 years of service at their MRA (Minimum Retirement Age) or 20 years at age 60, lasting until age 62.
Government Executive +2
Key Details of the FERS Bridge Benefit
  • Eligibility: Must be under FERS (not CSRS) and retire with an immediate, non-disability annuity.
  • Duration: Paid from retirement until age 62.
  • Earnings Limit: The supplement is subject to an earnings test (similar to Social Security) and can be reduced or eliminated if you work after retirement.
  • Calculation: Calculated based on the amount of Social Security a retiree earned while under the FERS system.
  • Stop Payment: The benefit stops when the recipient turns 62, regardless of whether they choose to file for Social Security.
  • Recent Status: The benefit has faced legislative scrutiny, with proposals to modify or eliminate it.
No one at TSA has worked there 30 years. Very few have worked for more than 20.
 
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