Okay, I get it... really, I do! I have probably been as critical of Trump as any Conservative here. I don't like some of his policy ideas, I think they would be terrible for America and I absolutely abhor his obnoxious Alt-Right supporters. I think he is a terrible Christian role model, he is petty and vindictive, he says some awful and nasty things to people, he doesn't convey contrition or humility and he seems to think he never does anything wrong. He is an arrogant smart ass who has no regard for those who oppose him or even question him critically... So I totally get what you don't like about him.
That said, I hear many of the NeverTrumpers rail on and on about what a catastrophe a Clinton presidency would be and how we cannot elect this woman president! But the thing is... this is a binary choice... if he doesn't win, she does win! Is this not being comprehended or something? I listen to people like Glenn Beck and Ben Shapiro go on and on for 45 minutes ranting about how awful Hillary Clinton is... how absolutely deplorable she is and how much of a nightmare it would be for her to win the election... but they're not going to vote for Trump.
So what do they think is going to happen? Because, the scenario where neither of them win is not going to happen. As much as we may wish that to be a reality in this universe, it's just not going to turn out that way. Trump will win or Hillary will win. You need to decide which one you want to win the least and vote for the other one. I'm still on the fence, I think it will be terrible for either one to win but I realize one of them is going to win. My inner-debate is whether it is worse for Trump to win or worse for Hillary to win. I'm still flipping that horrible pancake over and over but I am leaning toward voting for Trump.... just because she is so horribly corrupt and I fear, a danger to our republic. Her running mate is such a total nutball he makes Bernie look rational.
Trump, for all his faults, has said some things that I agree with. His strong position on dealing with illegal immigration is in line with my viewpoint. Whether he can pull it off or not, what he is saying he will do is a positive to me. It's better than what we've gotten from any Republican or Democrat yet. He also has some great plans for education and returning it to the states... something I've advocated for years and no Republican or Democrat has even been willing to address. He says he plans to cut corporate tax rates.. .again, something I've long advocated and support. So just on those things alone, I find myself more in line with Trump than Hillary, who I totally oppose on everything.
We are less than a week away, and I understand you have your principles but it's time to really think about this and set aside personality differences. If you had rather cling to your principles and see Hillary elected, that's fine... I understand completely. But don't ***** and complain that Hillary cannot be elected because THAT is precisely what is going to happen if Trump doesn't win.
I have to admit that I'm wavering a bit on Hillary and may end up voting third party, not sure.
But that said, what Hillary vs. Trump boils down to me is the crook vs. the buffoon. And I think a crook would be less destructive to the country. Trump just shouldn't be in there.
Terrible vs. terrible.
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Mac1958 if you are going to vote 3rd party, are you in a swing state or not?
If you support the idea of reducing the count where neither Trump nor Clinton gets to 270,
we'd have to organize vote swapping where Johnson can win 30 electoral votes.
There is an app created by Republicans for Clinton organizing vote swapping so
that third party candidates can get their popular votes in states that are "safe"
while swapping votes in a swing state so it goes toward the candidate they'd rather support.
And this ensures the vote they are throwing to the third party isn't going to the opponent they don't want to enable.
Some people are worried that infiltrators will pose as the opposite
in order to manipulate votes. But I trust people to use their votes
toward the team that is pushing in the same direction. There are
supposedly other vote swap networks organized to help Trump and third party without helping Clinton.
So it should come out right if everyone sticks to their group.
And it helps network together the people who want the same goal.
I guess we should have thought to organize and lobby for vote swapping
if we really wanted to help Johnson and Libertarians get to that point,
throw the vote to the House, and get Ryan or someone else besides the two we have.
In the meantime, if it helps to organize people across states along common lines,
if there are vote swapping sites, I would network there and see if you find a solution that works for
what you are trying to do and represent with your vote.
Being in Texas I normally use my vote to help Greens and now Libertarians
I think are deserving of recognition for their efforts, if it's sure the state is going GOP anyway.
If there is a chance it is close, I won't do that.
I felt this race was close enough that I did vote for Trump.
If nothing else, perhaps I make up for Michael Berry or other Cruz supporters
who just can't vote for Trump.
I think what he did to split from Cruz can, should, and needs to be repaired
not only for their sake and for the party, but for the sake of the nation.
So my vote was in faith and favor of that being resolved,
and I wasn't going to let that be a deterrent for not voting for Trump
but a condition on it because that rift has to be repaired.
Reconciling between Trump and Cruz is easy
compared with Democrats and the damage done
to Black communities, history and education.
Trump has shown much more willingness to embrace
and include others coming from diverse or opposite views.
And the Democrats have much more work to repair damage
done by political exclusion and discrimination, and haven't
even acknowledged it is a problem. Clinton trampled
on the Sanders Democrats and they still both think
the answers are going to come from the top down
not the bottom up. So they still don't get how much work it takes
to really reconcile from top to bottom.
Until they get that straight, and acknowledge that all the politics
in the meantime has DETRACTED from the real work it takes,
sorry, they don't get it and don't deserve to be rewarded to keep doing that
over and over, playing the same money games at the top while their
constituents struggle at the bottom who don't have taxpayers paying their way!
With Trump and Cruz and their support base,
whatever lesson they have to learn about not getting divided and conquered,
I support them in uniting and rebuilding, and I voted for that in advance.
I hope they set a better example for others on the RIGHT ways to
reconcile for the RIGHT reasons, not doing it for political expediency
and benefit while solutions that would help the people are still left out of that loop.
If the Democrats and Greens prove me wrong, and are able to unite first
around truly sustainable workable solutions, I'll be surprised, but too happy to complain!
I've been investing in such grassroots solutions for years,
and would welcome help. But found over and over that Democrats
will not care unless it allows them to get elected to office.
So unless it's set up that way, they've all but left to the work to unpaid
volunteers fighting around the clock to save Black communities and history
destroyed by neglect corruption and abuse so Democrats could sway the
favor of corporate interests deemed more important in keeping their offices.