as a person thats worked on houses for 50 yrs and been in thousands of them mostly older ones I have never once seen a lead water pipe in a house,,,
not progressives or socialist,, they are for a single powerful government
you can see it if you tear out the walls,, and I have torn out the walls for the first time on dozens of houses built before 1920 including the one I grew up in and the one I currently live in but it didnt have inside plumbing until 1973,,
Any why would you?
The easily accessible plumbing was likely switched out over 50 years ago.
Remember that lead pipe became very valuable and easily salvaged for a profit.
But the plumbing that is inaccessible is still there, is still lead, and you just can't see it.
You would have to dig a trench between the street and house to find it.
you can see it if you tear out the walls,, and I have torn out the walls for the first time on dozens of houses built before 1920 including the one I grew up in and the one I currently live in but it didnt have inside plumbing until 1973,,
Any why would you?
The easily accessible plumbing was likely switched out over 50 years ago.
Remember that lead pipe became very valuable and easily salvaged for a profit.
But the plumbing that is inaccessible is still there, is still lead, and you just can't see it.
You would have to dig a trench between the street and house to find it.
I'm not a conservative and have done much research on progressives and their origins that go back to the fabian socialist,,,
Someone has to do it because they always lie about it.
under the house???you can see it if you tear out the walls,, and I have torn out the walls for the first time on dozens of houses built before 1920 including the one I grew up in and the one I currently live in but it didnt have inside plumbing until 1973,,
Any why would you?
The easily accessible plumbing was likely switched out over 50 years ago.
Remember that lead pipe became very valuable and easily salvaged for a profit.
But the plumbing that is inaccessible is still there, is still lead, and you just can't see it.
You would have to dig a trench between the street and house to find it.
Lead plumbing is big, heavy, hard to use, and very expensive.
It was all removed when ever accessible.
But you can't see what is under the house, and if before 1920, then under the house is lead most likely.
thats not how progs and communist see it,,
Don't think so. the pipes would freeze in the winter if they came in though the side. There's reason the foundation has to be so-many feet deep in cold climates.under the house???you can see it if you tear out the walls,, and I have torn out the walls for the first time on dozens of houses built before 1920 including the one I grew up in and the one I currently live in but it didnt have inside plumbing until 1973,,
Any why would you?
The easily accessible plumbing was likely switched out over 50 years ago.
Remember that lead pipe became very valuable and easily salvaged for a profit.
But the plumbing that is inaccessible is still there, is still lead, and you just can't see it.
You would have to dig a trench between the street and house to find it.
Lead plumbing is big, heavy, hard to use, and very expensive.
It was all removed when ever accessible.
But you can't see what is under the house, and if before 1920, then under the house is lead most likely.
I thought we were talking about whats in the house,, I've never seen plumbing under one,, it comes into the side and goes up,
but as I said, I have done dozens of first time remodels on houses pre 1920 and a few pre 1900 and never seen lead pipes,,
The fittings can burst because they are copper or brass which means metal
You are sadly ignorant, it wasn't mandated in the clean water act until 1998 and your reading comprehension is 1st grade level.
Don't think so. the pipes would freeze in the winter if they came in though the side. There's reason the foundation has to be so-many feet deep in cold climates.under the house???you can see it if you tear out the walls,, and I have torn out the walls for the first time on dozens of houses built before 1920 including the one I grew up in and the one I currently live in but it didnt have inside plumbing until 1973,,
Any why would you?
The easily accessible plumbing was likely switched out over 50 years ago.
Remember that lead pipe became very valuable and easily salvaged for a profit.
But the plumbing that is inaccessible is still there, is still lead, and you just can't see it.
You would have to dig a trench between the street and house to find it.
Lead plumbing is big, heavy, hard to use, and very expensive.
It was all removed when ever accessible.
But you can't see what is under the house, and if before 1920, then under the house is lead most likely.
I thought we were talking about whats in the house,, I've never seen plumbing under one,, it comes into the side and goes up,
but as I said, I have done dozens of first time remodels on houses pre 1920 and a few pre 1900 and never seen lead pipes,,
nope not true
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Lead was used in the solder mixture to solder copper pipes together. You'd have to use a lot of solder at that joint to make the water toxic. Most of the copper pipes in my area have been replaced with PVC because copper pipes don't last forever.
I think some of the old cast iron sewer pipes were lined with lead to make them last longer because lead doesn't rust like cast iron, not sure on that though, but then that isn't drinking water.
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I don't think solder ever comes in contact with the water on a copper pipe joint if it is done right. So that is a non-issue as well.
The bottom line is that no iron or steel pipe will last forever. Every home owner will at some point be forced to deal with plumbing issues. The public should not be forced to pay for it. Newer construction has dealt with this with the introduction of PVC and Pex pipe for potable water and ABS for sewage. People who buy older homes are either stupid or naive to think that plumbing lasts forever.
in this case they say the new water source they started using had a high chlorine content and cause the breakdown of the liner and allowed lead into the water,,Simple. Replace every pipe that was installed before a certain date. When lead was no longer used in the production of pipes or in the solder connections.Safe drinking water for everyone in America is an important goal, and Joe Biden’s American Jobs Plan makes a $111 billion investment toward that. While the majority of the funding goes to modernizing water treatment and delivery systems and remediating potentially harmful chemicals like PFAS, what’s gotten the most attention is a $45 billion initiative to “replace 100 percent of the nation’s lead pipes and service lines.”
If we could manage to do this, it would make a huge difference. Lead exposure has been credibly linked to stunted child development, kidney disease, auditory problems, brain damage, behavioral challenges, and more provocatively, crime. We eliminated leaded gasoline and paint in the 1970s and yet it still lingers as a persistent problem. And part of that comes through water tainted as it flows through lead pipes.
But if you want to replace all the lead water pipes in America, the first thing you have to do is find all the lead water pipes in America.
First 100: To Remove Lead Water Pipes, First You Must Find Them - The American Prospect
And then you have to remove the whole pipe, including the part on private property.prospect.org
This sounds like it has the makings of a chaotic nightmare. I don't have a problem with it as long as homeowners are not having to come up with money to replace them.
Impractical.
Pipes are put in before streets, buildings, etc. are constructed.
Nor are there still records.
You would have to totally retrench over 10' down every single street and private property.
Nor any need in most cases.
Lead pipe does not normally cause any lead to get into the water.
It is only bad when water is hot, acidic, or stagnant.
Chlorine is highly toxic, much more so than lead, and should never really be used.
Floride is bad enough, but that is in very tiny amounts.
But it was NOT the piping that was at all any part of the problem.
When they got water from Detroit, it also had SOME chlorine.
It was the increase of choline and other things that caused the problem.
And clearly when you see dark water, that is sediment from old pipes or systems that had not been used on a long time.
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Flint isn’t the only city susceptible to these problems. The pipes in its old distribution system had seen the same water for decades. Switching water supplies in 2014 changed the chemistry of the water flowing through those pipes. When a switch like this happens, the water system is going to move toward a new equilibrium, says Daniel Giammar, an environmental engineer at Washington University in St. Louis. “It could be catastrophic as it was in Flint, or it could be a small change.”
Before 2014, Flint was getting its water from the Detroit Water & Sewerage Department, which would draw water from Lake Huron and then treat it before sending it to Flint. Looking to lower the city’s water costs, Flint officials decided in 2013 to instead take water from the Karegnondi Water Authority, which was building its own pipeline from the lake. Shortly after that, Detroit told Flint it would terminate their original long-term water agreement within a year and offered to negotiate a new, short-term agreement. Flint declined the offer. As an interim solution, while waiting for the new pipeline to be finished, Flint began taking water from the Flint River and treating it at the city’s own plant.
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A new equilibrium would be reached in a short time, so then water should have returned to being safe in Flint, without any lead pipe removal.
