Tired Of Democrats Use Of "Fascist"

[Dogmaphobe]

MAGA will praise fascism to your face and then say how dare you say I praise fascism

Maga talks?

I just figured it was a word that uneducated sheeple use for 'popoohead"?

 

[Marener]

Of course it hasn't.

Your problem is that you accept every lie they tell you.


The Holocaust changed "meanings."


American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism.
“Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ....
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223

Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. http://www.worldmag.com/articles/16873

Again, the right wing does not necessarily have any problems with centralized authority. The original right wing were committed to maintaining the French monarchy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I do love providing the education that government school purposely hides.


The problem is how deeply one need go into political history, ands these short posts make full elucdation difficult.


In this one, perhaps the origin of Fascism......the desire of the French Revolution to end private property.



Rousseau, the godfather of Leftist revolution, believed that property corrupted man’s nature, good nature.

Leon Trotsky long ago pointed out that where there is no private ownership, individuals can be bent to the will of the state”
Bethell, “The Noblest Triumph,” p.9




And terror, murder, became the acceptable method of ending private property:

"For the first time in history terror became an official government policy, with the stated aim to use violence in order to achieve a higher political goal. Unlike the later meaning of 'terrorists' as people who use violence against a government, the terrorists of the French Revolution were the government. The Terror was legal, having been voted for by the Convention."

Robespierre and the Terror | History Today​

www.historytoday.com



Perhaps the simplest description of the difference between the Left and the Right, is that the Left sees murder as an option.
Of course, the Democrats fit the description.



This post highlights the nature of Jacobins, Bolsheviks, Nazis, Maoists, and the current Democrats.
Some use murder, some use regulation.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

If the world elites were to call Trump an Aardvark, the great masses of sheeple would call him an Aardvark

No need to think when your politics are a top down afair and blind repetition is a bonding mechanism

 

[PoliticalChic]

Again, the right wing does not necessarily have any problems with centralized authority. The original right wing were committed to maintaining the French monarchy.

Trump did the very opposite: he gave private property back to the people.​

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The Trump Administration Rolled Back More Than 100 ...​

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › interactive › climate › trump...
Jan 20, 2021 — The Trump administration has dismantled nearly 100 policies focused on clean air, water, wildlife and toxic chemicals, and left more than a ...

 

[Marener]

Trump did the very opposite: he gave private property back to the people.​

The Trump Administration Rolled Back More Than 100 ...​

The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › interactive › climate › trump...
Jan 20, 2021 — The Trump administration has dismantled nearly 100 policies focused on clean air, water, wildlife and toxic chemicals, and left more than a ...

And all done on the order of a single central, dare i say it, authority.

Yet again, the current Republican Party sees Trump as able to enforce their will solely through the power of the presidency which they have done a lot to expand. Notice how they don’t want Congress to write laws, they just expect Trump to do it.

 

[Lastamender]

1. This quote from Saul Alinsky (late communist), mentor of Democrat lights like Hillary and Obama, in "Rules for Radicals" relates so well to the democrat party today, "accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt."?

Thus, the recent constant use of "fascists" for the other side.


2. Not only is the use of the term 'fascist' the complete oppostite of the truth, but it is appropriate to address it in the light of tomorrow's anniversary:
October 30th, 1922 Benito Mussolini becomes Premier of Italy




From David Ramsey Steele's essay on Fascism and Mussolini:


3. .".. achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
(Socialists.....would that be the current Democrats or current Republicans?)


4. Mussolini's election to the Executive was part of the capture of control of the Socialist Party by the hard-line Marxist left, ....The shift in Socialist Party control was greeted with delight by Lenin and other revolutionaries throughout the world. From 1912 to 1914, Mussolini was the Che Guevara of his day, a living saint of leftism. Handsome, courageous, charismatic, an erudite Marxist, a riveting speaker and writer, a dedicated class warrior to the core, he was the peerless duce of the Italian Left. He looked like the head of any future Italian socialist government, elected or revolutionary.

5. Mussolini and a group of adherents launched the Fascist movement (6) in 1919. Apart from its ardent nationalism and pro-war foreign policy, the Fascist program was a mixture of radical left, moderate left, democratic, and liberal measures...."

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE is an independent, non-party group, brought together by a shared desire to work for a free society. The Libertarian Alliance is pledged to fight statism in all its forms, and to engage in long range propaganda for the Libertarian alternative.

www.la-articles.org.uk

When they can't name one fascist thing Trump did in his first term. Very tired of it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Again, the right wing does not necessarily have any problems with centralized authority. The original right wing were committed to maintaining the French monarchy.

The revolution that you are missing is the Trump Revolution.....against the elites and welfare (vote buying), and for the honest, hardworking American middle class.

The very opposite of collectivism, and racial politics.


The divide is between a nation divided by defined races, and one unified around a support of a growing and successful middle class.
Any who attack Trump using the word "racist" are beyond intellectual redemption.


3. The Trump revolution has changed the Republican Party from one of the rich to one that is the home of a growing coterie of Hispanic entrepeneurs, white small business owners, aspiring blacks. Just look at the numbers.


4. The Democrat Party has been racist, first against blacks, from the Civil War, up to and including LBK and Bill Clinton ( "Obama would have been carrying our bags.") The votes for Obama was a representation of how successful the Democrat racial-guilt campaign was. Obama fueled the most dangerous nation in the world today based largely on his Muslim upbringing.
Now, hatred of straight white men. Still racism.

5. Under a Trump presidency, the benefits went to the middle class: inflation was low, gas prices low, now wars to kill the young of the middle class. The Democrats hate him for trying to stem the tide of low income, uneducated illegals who will vote Democrat; the Republican elite hate his affinity for the common man over the wealthy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And all done on the order of a single central, dare i say it, authority.

Yet again, the current Republican Party sees Trump as able to enforce their will solely through the power of the presidency which they have done a lot to expand. Notice how they don’t want Congress to write laws, they just expect Trump to do it.

You are lying to save yourself from confronting the truth.

Regulations are for two purposes:
1. to control private property

2. to allow elites to write the regulations to prevent competition. Their ability to do so is based on bribing elected officials, who become rich.

......the Democrats/Fascists see Trump as a detriment to their profits/wealth, and here is the explanation:
"Trump kills 16 regulations for every new one, crushing 2-for-1 goal"
Trump kills 16 regulations for every new one, crushing 2-for-1 goal

Most regulations are, in terms of what they are alleged to do, are actually there to be bribed away by the industries that they inhibit.
The pols write them, the corporations pay lobbyists to bribe the pols to insert loopholes....

....hence poor men come to Washington to do good, and leave as millionaires, having made good.

Trump is a threat to their sinecures.

 

[Marener]

The revolution that you are missing is the Trump Revolution.....against the elites and welfare, and for the honest, hardworking American middle class.

The very opposite of collectivism, and racial politics.


The divide is between a nation divided by defined races, and one unified around a support of a growing and successful middle class.
Any who attack Trump using the word "racist" are beyond intellectual redemption.


3. The Trump revolution has changed the Republican Party from one of the rich to one that is the home of a growing coterie of Hispanic entrepeneurs, white small business owners, aspiring blacks. Just look at the numbers.


4. The Democrat Party has been racist, first against blacks, from the Civil War, up to and including LBK and Bill Clinton ( "Obama would have been carrying our bags.") The votes for Obama was a representation of how successful the Democrat racial-guilt campaign was. Obama fueled the most dangerous nation in the world today based largely on his Muslim upbringing.
Now, hatred of straight white men. Still racism.

5. Under a Trump presidency, the benefits went to the middle class: inflation was low, gas prices low, now wars to kill the young of the middle class. The Democrats hate him for trying to stem the tide of low income, uneducated illegals who will vote Democrat; the Republican elite hate his affinity for the common man over the wealthy.

Yeah, the elites and billionaires did just fine under the first Trump administration and are going to do even better under the next one if he wins. They got massive tax cuts. Corporate tax cuts fattened their stock portfolios. They love the lack of regulations. They love the lack of accountability.

That’s why billionaires are lining up for another go at it.

Modern right wing conservatism adores the rich elites. They worship them and their wealthy. The elites see this as the justified social hierarchy. The elites are better than everyone else and they deserve to be in charge.

This is the essence of right wing politics.

 

[justoffal]

I don't disagree with everything you say, but the last bit in your post, leans towards the same thing you revile against the dems for doing.

The question, as I believe you allude is this: how do we get along, even with "scumbags"? How do we entertain and discuss terrible policies. There is an approach when planning out a new idea or project where even 'bad ideas', on the surface, are discussed and even plausibly fixed. Sometimes, bad ideas are brought on through irrational or ignorant perspective. We have all had them, the first idea that pops into the head as a fix, but, oh... a few moments of thought and the idea is bad. But, sometimes, those bad ideas spur on thought, discourse so that it can become realized as possible solution.

That's where we are today. Just rhetoric, speculation, generalization, false narratives and propaganda is rampant. But somewhere between the extremes of both sides, exists a common ground, that if discussed rationally, we can all agree on and maybe, the scumbags on both sides, turn into American citizens too.

Can you imagine the power of this nation united? It's nearly unfathomable. The rest of the world has a vested interest in keeping us at each other's throat.

 

[justoffal]

You are lying to save yourself from confronting the truth.

Regulations are for two purposes:
1. to control private property

2. to allow elites to write the regulatiojns to prevent competition. Their ability to do so is based on bribing elected officials, who become rich.

......the Democrats/Fascists see Trump as a detriment to their profits/wealth, and here is the explanation:
"Trump kills 16 regulations for every new one, crushing 2-for-1 goal"
Trump kills 16 regulations for every new one, crushing 2-for-1 goal

Most regulations are, in terms of what they are alleged to do, are actually there to be bribed away by the industries that they inhibit.
The pols write them, the corporations pay lobbyists to bribe the pols to insert loopholes....

....hence poor men come to Washington to do good, and leave as millionaires, having made good.

Trump is a threat to their sinecures.

Spot on

 

[Marener]

You are lying to save yourself from confronting the truth.

Regulations are for two purposes:
1. to control private property

2. to allow elites to write the regulatiojns to prevent competition. Their ability to do so is based on bribing elected officials, who become rich.

......the Democrats/Fascists see Trump as a detriment to their profits/wealth, and here is the explanation:
"Trump kills 16 regulations for every new one, crushing 2-for-1 goal"
Trump kills 16 regulations for every new one, crushing 2-for-1 goal

Most regulations are, in terms of what they are alleged to do, are actually there to be bribed away by the industries that they inhibit.
The pols write them, the corporations pay lobbyists to bribe the pols to insert loopholes....

....hence poor men come to Washington to do good, and leave as millionaires, having made good.

Trump is a threat to their sinecures.

I’m not going to make blanket statements but regulations also exist to protect society from the ill effects of other people’s actions. Regulations exist so factories don’t pollute our rivers. Regulations exist so our food doesn’t contain toxic bacteria. Regulations exist so banks don’t blow our deposits or scam consumers.

Rich elites would be more than happy to be able to do whatever they want without having to worry about government regulations restraining them. If something bad happens, it’s not their problem.

 

[otto105]

When they can't name one fascist thing Trump did in his first term. Very tired of it.

You miss the whole a Merica first spiel?

The scapegoating of a minority class?

 

[Lastamender]

You miss the whole a Merica first spiel?

The scapegoating of a minority class?

You are with the party that shits on minorities and they have figured that out. They will put Trump back in the WH.

 

[otto105]

I’m not going to make blanket statements but regulations also exist to protect society from the ill effects of other people’s actions. Regulations exist so factories don’t pollute our rivers. Regulations exist so our food doesn’t contain toxic bacteria. Regulations exist so banks don’t blow our deposits or scam consumers.

Rich elites would be more than happy to be able to do whatever they want without having to worry about government regulations restraining them. If something bad happens, it’s not their problem.

lack of regulations is allowing rich elites to buy vast areas of Montana and then wall off the people from them.

 

[Lastamender]

lack of regulations is allowing rich elites to buy vast areas of Montana and then wall off the people from them.

Don't you mean China? They back the elites.

 

[otto105]

You are with the party that shits on minorities and they have figured that out. They will put Trump back in the WH.

Hilarious

Garbage maga fuckup.

 

[Marener]

lack of regulations is allowing rich elites to buy vast areas of Montana and then wall off the people from them.

These guys don’t have problems with regulations. They’re just focusing on regulations they serve their ideology.

 

[whitehall]

The media knows it can fool a generation of dumbed down Americans by parroting the democrat party's favorite word "fascist" while any thinking intelligent person would remember that the definition of fascism is "government control over the production and distribution of goods and services". We just lived through an era of Covid fascism sponsored by Biden and Fauci and Kamila proposed price control on goods and services if elected.