Time to rename our Confederate Forts

[Mushroom]

Slavery IS a shame they bear

And exactly how many Southerners alive today have owned slaves?

This alone screams your arrogance and hatred. And let me gues, do you also want to see all Jews shamed because they killed Jesus?

The war ended over a century and a half ago, get over it.

Oh, and there were slaves in all 13 colonies originally. Heck, some of the first slaves actually came to New York, and by the turn of the 18th century, 42% of New York households owned slaves.

In fact, here is a bit of trivia. The practice of slavery in the Northern Colonies largely died off after the Revolution. Not from any kind of belief change, but because most of the major cities had been occupied at one time or another by the British. And one of the things they did was to emancipate all slaves if they would leave their masters and join the Loyalist cause. And since most of the slaves were household slaves and not involved in agricultural pursuits, they left in droves. The Continental Congress responded by passing a law which stated that any slave that fought for the Colonies for 3 years earned their freedom.

Between these two actions, slavery was largely dead in the North. Either being freed by the now victorious colonies, or being taken up north to Nova Scotia when the British left at the end of the war. So, when are we going to see statues of prominent figures in New England torn down and renamed?

You see, these silly arguments only work on the ignorant, that know nothing of history. And you do nothing but promote ignorance and hatred. Blaming individuals alive today for something that ended a century and a half ago.

Let it go, let it go.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I believe they are part of history. Whether we like it or not, it is part of our heritage. That would like like Germany renaming Auschwitz and the other Concentration camps. It is part of their history. We may not agree to what happened there. But nonetheless...

Auschwitz is in Poland you thick ******.

That's only partially true. The Auschwitz site is indeed in the greater Krakow Metropolitan area.

But the camp was strictly a German government installation, and had no Polish Administration.

SWo basically the Germans have no naming rights over the camp. FFS you people are beyond stupid.

 

[Correll]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

 

[rightwinger]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

 

[gipper]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

The D Party defended slavery too. Up to and including Bubba Clinton.

 

[Polishprince]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

Actually, the GOP has always been against Slavery, in fact that is why the party was founded.

 

[gipper]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

Actually, the GOP has always been against Slavery, in fact that is why the party was founded.

His understanding of history can be summed up like this...Ds good Rs bad.

Simpletons are always easy to spot.

 

[Polishprince]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

The D Party defended slavery too. Up to and including Bubba Clinton.

You forgot B. Hussein O. The descendent of Slave Traders, black leaders compared his Obamacare Atrocity to Slavery.

Ben Carson compares Obamacare to slavery

Dr. Ben Carson, a conservative commentator and neurosurgeon, spoke about the Affordable Care Act at the 2013 Values Voter Summit.

www.politico.com

 

[rightwinger]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

The D Party defended slavery too. Up to and including Bubba Clinton.

You forgot B. Hussein O. The descendent of Slave Traders, black leaders compared his Obamacare Atrocity to Slavery.

Ben Carson compares Obamacare to slavery

Dr. Ben Carson, a conservative commentator and neurosurgeon, spoke about the Affordable Care Act at the 2013 Values Voter Summit.

www.politico.com

Yes, because saving people’s lives is the same thing as slavery

 

[Polishprince]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

The D Party defended slavery too. Up to and including Bubba Clinton.

You forgot B. Hussein O. The descendent of Slave Traders, black leaders compared his Obamacare Atrocity to Slavery.

Ben Carson compares Obamacare to slavery

Dr. Ben Carson, a conservative commentator and neurosurgeon, spoke about the Affordable Care Act at the 2013 Values Voter Summit.

www.politico.com

Yes, because saving people’s lives is the same thing as slavery

Dr. Carson is a renown neurosurgeon, I think he is more intelligent that you are, particularly in the field of health care

 

[rightwinger]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

Actually, the GOP has always been against Slavery, in fact that is why the party was founded.

Sadly, they were formed to oppose slavery

Today’s Republicans disgrace that memory and choose instead to celebrate the memory of the slaveholders

 

[rightwinger]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

The D Party defended slavery too. Up to and including Bubba Clinton.

You forgot B. Hussein O. The descendent of Slave Traders, black leaders compared his Obamacare Atrocity to Slavery.

Ben Carson compares Obamacare to slavery

Dr. Ben Carson, a conservative commentator and neurosurgeon, spoke about the Affordable Care Act at the 2013 Values Voter Summit.

www.politico.com

Yes, because saving people’s lives is the same thing as slavery

Dr. Carson is a renown neurosurgeon, I think he is more intelligent that you are, particularly in the field of health care

Surprisingly, he repeatedly demonstrates he has little practical knowledge of anything outside of surgery.

Even an indifference of how people will pay for his expensive procedures

 

[Correll]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

Big difference between "NOT trying to marginalize their descendants for no reason" and "defending".

BUt you knew that. You are just a filthy lying whore.

 

[Correll]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

Actually, the GOP has always been against Slavery, in fact that is why the party was founded.

He knows that. He is just lying. Because he is a liberal.


It is what they do. It is all they do.

 

[Correll]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

The D Party defended slavery too. Up to and including Bubba Clinton.

You forgot B. Hussein O. The descendent of Slave Traders, black leaders compared his Obamacare Atrocity to Slavery.

Ben Carson compares Obamacare to slavery

Dr. Ben Carson, a conservative commentator and neurosurgeon, spoke about the Affordable Care Act at the 2013 Values Voter Summit.

www.politico.com

Yes, because saving people’s lives is the same thing as slavery

Dr. Carson is a renown neurosurgeon, I think he is more intelligent that you are, particularly in the field of health care

Dems only care about experts, when they are on the right side.

 

[Correll]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

Actually, the GOP has always been against Slavery, in fact that is why the party was founded.

Sadly, they were formed to oppose slavery

Today’s Republicans disgrace that memory and choose instead to celebrate the memory of the slaveholders

We won the battle against slavery.


YOu are real brave, showing up 5 generations after the fight is over, and wanting to pick on people for something their great great grand daddy, might have done.


By "real brave" I mean, a real prick.

 

[Polishprince]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

Actually, the GOP has always been against Slavery, in fact that is why the party was founded.

Sadly, they were formed to oppose slavery

Today’s Republicans disgrace that memory and choose instead to celebrate the memory of the slaveholders

We won the battle against slavery.


YOu are real brave, showing up 5 generations after the fight is over, and wanting to pick on people for something their great great grand daddy, might have done.


By "real brave" I mean, a real prick.

Actually, the veterans from both sides of the Civil War reconciled after the conflict.

Why can't modern liberals accept that?

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/union-and-confederate-veterans.html

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The title of this thread is idiotic.
There are no Confederate Forts ...

They are not American

Which of the men they were named after were not born in America?

Which of the men they were named after were not born in America?

Obama

 

[Correll]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

Actually, the GOP has always been against Slavery, in fact that is why the party was founded.

Sadly, they were formed to oppose slavery

Today’s Republicans disgrace that memory and choose instead to celebrate the memory of the slaveholders

We won the battle against slavery.


YOu are real brave, showing up 5 generations after the fight is over, and wanting to pick on people for something their great great grand daddy, might have done.


By "real brave" I mean, a real prick.

Actually, the veterans from both sides of the Civil War reconciled after the conflict.

Why can't modern liberals accept that?

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/union-and-confederate-veterans.html

I've posted photo evidence of that many times. rightwinger knows it. He is just a filthy liar.


They can't accept it, because they hate America and want to tear US apart.

 

[rightwinger]

CremeBrulee writes:
“That's the problem with this shit. Any name you might come up with will have some sort of stigma attached to it by someone. I guess you could start naming things after inanimate objects...”

I don’t think we will ever run out of genuine patriots and heroes who fought for worthy American (and universal) values. You are right, though, that we needn’t name forts after Generals only. Sure there may always be differences concerning this or that name, but at least let us not choose the names of men who fought against the United States in a war that defended slavery.

Or ideas even. Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. I am not up to date on naming conventions for the military. Once you go down the rabbit hole of changing names though, you should be prepared to change everything named after anything or anyone to suit the whims of how people feel about something at any given time or according to their political ideology.

I love the idea of Ft. Liberty, Ft. Freedom, Ft. Independence. It would be hard to change these names once folks got used to them. Even the South during the Civil War claimed it was fighting for these ideals. Plus, maybe, hopefully, it would have a salutary subliminal influence on our military, and serve as a reminder of what we are supposed to be fighting for when we fight overseas.

This is meant as an insult to southern Americans, and it would be seen that way.
This is about insulting and marginalizing a group of people.
This is proof that Diversity and Multi-culturalism, as ideas and policy goals, were always lies.

Renaming Fort Benning — named after a diehard racist Confederate slaveholder (see comment #110) — calling it say “Fort Liberty“ — would be an “insult to Southern Americans...” ?

Not to any Americans (wherever they live) ... with their heads screwed on right!

SUre it would. It would be saying that Southern history and heritage is a shame that they bear, that they alone among all groups, are not allowed to celebrate their history.


That is an insult. YOur denial of that obvious fact is also offensive.

Slavery IS a shame they bear

Every nation has a time of slavery in its history. Englishmen were slave-owners, Turks were slave-owners, Berbers were slave-owners...
Can you accept this simple fact?

40 percent of the Confederacy was in bondage. Four million people.

No other nation ever embraced slavery to the degree the Confederacy did.

Really? What about medieval Baltic States where more than 85% of the total population were serfs who had less human rights than the slaves in the Confederacy?

Serfs were not property, they and their children were not bought and sold

The Slaves in Antiquity had it a lot harder than those in America during antebellum days. Picking cotton may not have been an idyllic life, but it was a lot better than rowing in a galley.

Charlton Heston?

Actually, Judah Ben-Hur. Heston was the actor that portrayed Mr. Ben-hur on the silver screen.

Ben-Hur was a fictional character

So what are you saying? That being a galley slave was an easy gig?

He is just disagreeing because liberals need to believe that America is the worst when it comes to slavery.


Any facts to the contrary, they dismiss, ignore, deny, deflect, whatever.


BLAME AMERICA FIRST. REASONS? BECAUSE!

Today’s Republicans still defend the era of slavery.

Some of them were good people.

Actually, the GOP has always been against Slavery, in fact that is why the party was founded.

Sadly, they were formed to oppose slavery

Today’s Republicans disgrace that memory and choose instead to celebrate the memory of the slaveholders

We won the battle against slavery.


YOu are real brave, showing up 5 generations after the fight is over, and wanting to pick on people for something their great great grand daddy, might have done.


By "real brave" I mean, a real prick.

Actually, the veterans from both sides of the Civil War reconciled after the conflict.

Why can't modern liberals accept that?

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/union-and-confederate-veterans.html

I've posted photo evidence of that many times. rightwinger knows it. He is just a filthy liar.


They can't accept it, because they hate America and want to tear US apart.

The war ended. Since they were rejoining the union, it was felt that punitive measures would not speed the process.

That does not mean you have to accept the repulsive nature of the Confederacy.