Dems with two Pubs vote to bar Hegseth's military base name changes to those of Confederate heroes

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Cool story. Just School name changes alone during Obama dwarfs your PROPOSED changes by hundreds.

This is about major changes by the national parties.

Yup, I gigged you badly.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I never worried about the names of Confederate heroes for our bases. Served at Fort Hood and Fort Bragg.

But times change, don't they? The CSA was a traitor nation, yes. There you go.

The Tennessean Nashville

A House committee attempted to ban Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth from using official funds to change military base names to evoke their original, Confederate-inspired titles in a rebuke of his war on diversity and inclusion policies in the military.

The House Armed Services Committee passed an amendment to its annual defense policy bill barring the Pentagon from using any of the funds from next year's defense budget to rename Defense Department installations in honor of Confederate figures.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-who-republicans-join-house-dems-to-bar-hegseth-s-military-base-name-changes/ar-AA1IISuL?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ASTS&cvid=ac92acb8859b4a0892703632b66282e6&ei=28

We need to remember the lengths to which the democrat Party went to keep their slaves

 

[whitehall]

He didn't "change" the names, he restored them to the familiar names we knew for a hundred years. There is a difference but left wing information sources won't acknowledge it for political reasons.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So what you are saying is that you didn't worry about them until you where told to worry about them, how very sheeple of you.

Where the 5 "civilized' Tribes that fought for the Confederacy traitors to ?

You are so stupid and uninformed to boot. People become aware and change. You don't because you are retarded. You always make is so easy.

And... two tribes generally fought for the Confederacy, two generally for the Union, and one was split between North and South. There were a lot of general crossovers among the tribes.

"During the American Civil War, the Five Civilized Tribes—Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek (Muscogee), and Seminole—were deeply divided in their loyalties, with factions supporting both the Union and the Confederacy. This internal split led to what some historians call a “civil war within a civil war.”


Confederate Alignment

• Many tribal leaders signed treaties with the Confederacy, hoping to protect their lands and sovereignty after the federal government withdrew troops from Indian Territory (modern-day Oklahoma).
• The Confederacy promised recognition of tribal independence, representation in its Congress, and protection from encroachment.
• Some tribal elites, especially those who practiced chattel slavery, aligned ideologically and economically with the South.
• 
  
• Union Support
• 
  
• Other tribal members, especially those opposed to slavery or skeptical of Confederate promises, remained loyal to the Union Leaders like Opothleyahola (Creek) and Big John Chupco (Seminole) led thousands of Native refugees northward to Kansas, where they formed Union-aligned regimentslike the Indian Home Guard.
  • The Union offered military roles and protection, though support was often inconsistent.
  Internal Conflict
  
  • The Cherokee Nationwas especially torn:
    • Chief John Ross initially sought neutrality but eventually signed a Confederate treaty under pressure.
    • Stand Watie, a pro-Confederate Cherokee leader, became the only Native American brigadier general in the Confederate Army.
    • Ross was later captured by
    • Union forces and spent the rest of the war advocating for Cherokee loyalty to the North.
  • The Seminole Nation split nearly evenly:
  • One-third followed Chupco to Kansas (Union), while the rest joined Colonel John Jumper in fighting for the Confederacy.
  • Aftermath
  • The war devastated Indian Territory—homes were destroyed, populations displaced, and tribal governments weakened.
  • Post-war treaties in 1866 required tribes to:
  • Free enslaved people and grant them tribal rights
  • Cede land to the U.S. government
  • Accept new boundaries and governance structures
  • This split had long-lasting effects on tribal politics, identity, and federal relations. If you’d like, I can show how each tribe rebuilt after the war or explore the role of Native regiments in key battles.
  • • Union forces and spent the rest of the war advocating for Cherokee loyalty to the North.
  • The Seminole Nation split nearly evenly:
  • One-third followed Chupco to Kansas (Union), while the rest joined Colonel John Jumper in fighting for the Confederacy.
  • Aftermath
  • The war devastated Indian Territory—homes were destroyed, populations displaced, and tribal governments weakened.
  • Post-war treaties in 1866 required tribes to:
  • Free enslaved people and grant them tribal rights
  • Cede land to the U.S. government
  • Accept new boundaries and governance structures
  • This split had long-lasting effects on tribal politics, identity, and federal relations. If you’d like, I can show how each tribe rebuilt after the war or explore the role of Native regiments in key battles.
• www.fivecivilizednations.org

 

[DukeU]

would you make Jews serve at bases named after Nazis?

No?

So can you see the problem with making African-Americans serve on bases named after Confederates?

I noticed democrats haven't changed the name of their party.

 

[Moonglow]

We need to remember the lengths to which the democrat Party went to keep their slaves

Wrong party, try again.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wrong party, try again.

Google: American Civil War

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

You are so stupid and uninformed to boot. People become aware and change. You don't because you are retarded. You always make is so easy.

And... two tribes generally fought for the Confederacy, two generally for the Union, and one was split between North and South. There were a lot of general crossovers among the tribes.

"During the American Civil War, the Five Civilized Tribes—Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek (Muscogee), and Seminole—were deeply divided in their loyalties, with factions supporting both the Union and the Confederacy. This internal split led to what some historians call a “civil war within a civil war.”


Confederate Alignment

• Many tribal leaders signed treaties with the Confederacy, hoping to protect their lands and sovereignty after the federal government withdrew troops from Indian Territory (modern-day Oklahoma).
• The Confederacy promised recognition of tribal independence, representation in its Congress, and protection from encroachment.
• Some tribal elites, especially those who practiced chattel slavery, aligned ideologically and economically with the South.
• 
  
• Union Support
• 
  
• Other tribal members, especially those opposed to slavery or skeptical of Confederate promises, remained loyal to the Union Leaders like Opothleyahola (Creek) and Big John Chupco (Seminole) led thousands of Native refugees northward to Kansas, where they formed Union-aligned regimentslike the Indian Home Guard.
  • The Union offered military roles and protection, though support was often inconsistent.
  Internal Conflict
  • The Cherokee Nationwas especially torn:
    • Chief John Ross initially sought neutrality but eventually signed a Confederate treaty under pressure.
    • Stand Watie, a pro-Confederate Cherokee leader, became the only Native American brigadier general in the Confederate Army.
    • Ross was later captured by
    • Union forces and spent the rest of the war advocating for Cherokee loyalty to the North.
  • The Seminole Nation split nearly evenly:
  • One-third followed Chupco to Kansas (Union), while the rest joined Colonel John Jumper in fighting for the Confederacy.
  • Aftermath
  • The war devastated Indian Territory—homes were destroyed, populations displaced, and tribal governments weakened.
  • Post-war treaties in 1866 required tribes to:
  • Free enslaved people and grant them tribal rights
  • Cede land to the U.S. government
  • Accept new boundaries and governance structures
  • This split had long-lasting effects on tribal politics, identity, and federal relations. If you’d like, I can show how each tribe rebuilt after the war or explore the role of Native regiments in key battles.
  • • Union forces and spent the rest of the war advocating for Cherokee loyalty to the North.
  • The Seminole Nation split nearly evenly:
  • One-third followed Chupco to Kansas (Union), while the rest joined Colonel John Jumper in fighting for the Confederacy.
  • Aftermath
  • The war devastated Indian Territory—homes were destroyed, populations displaced, and tribal governments weakened.
  • Post-war treaties in 1866 required tribes to:
  • Free enslaved people and grant them tribal rights
  • Cede land to the U.S. government
  • Accept new boundaries and governance structures
  • This split had long-lasting effects on tribal politics, identity, and federal relations. If you’d like, I can show how each tribe rebuilt after the war or explore the role of Native regiments in key battles.
• www.fivecivilizednations.org

Some of those tribes fought for the Confederacy that's a historical fact they where also the last group to give up their African slaves.

You called Southerners traitors for fight for the Confederacy being the usual hypocritical hack that most loons are you don't extend that claim towards the Indians.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

This is about major changes by the national parties.

Yup, I gigged you badly.

No. It’s about democrats using the emotions of weak useful idiots .

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Some of those tribes fought for the Confederacy that's a historical fact they where also the last group to give up their African slaves.

You called Southerners traitors for fight for the Confederacy being the usual hypocritical hack that most loons are you don't extend that claim towards the Indians.

And? Indigenous peoples were not in the category of whites or blacks back then at all. We were not citizens.

Navajos were split in sentiment during the Civil War. "
the Navajo people were involved in the Civil War era, but not in the conventional sense of choosing sides between the Union and the Confederacy.

Union Involvement (Indirectly)
Some Navajos were caught up in the conflict through the actions of the Union Army in the Southwest. The U.S. government, under General James H. Carleton, viewed the Navajo as a threat to territorial stability and ordered a military campaign to subdue them. This led to the infamous Long Walk of the Navajo in 1864, when thousands were forcibly relocated to Bosque Redondo in eastern New Mexico.

Kit Carson’s Campaign
Colonel Kit Carson, commanding Union forces, led scorched-earth campaigns against the Navajo, destroying crops, homes, and livestock to force surrender. Though Carson was a Union officer, his actions were directed at Native populations rather than Confederate forces.

Navajo Resistance
Rather than aligning with either side, the Navajo resisted Union military aggression. Leaders like Manuelito and Barboncito fought to defend their homeland, especially during the Second Battle of Fort Defiance in 1860 and subsequent skirmishes.

So while the Navajo didn’t formally fight for the Union or Confederacy they were deeply affected by the war’s western theater and resisted Union campaigns aimed at their displacement.

Thank you for taking the time to learn about our history.

 

[citygator]

Nope. It’s the dems that like to change the names of things to fool the useful idiots for their votes.

I really am not sure what you are talking about. Why are you in love with insulting names? Confederate traitors. Sport teams that are insulting to modern groups, like Redskins?

 

[Kilroy2]

Confederate Heroes

How funny

They tried to revolt because the government dared to tell them to free the slaves. The Confederacy felt that slaves were their property. Just because they went to another country and kidnapped people so that they could be forced to work picking cotton and were property of the land owners.

How is that a just union?

We the people or just a few of the people and the rest were property to own.

Kidnap people and force them to work for plantation owners. They were not workers but property to a land owner who needed people to work the fields. Cheap labor

The confederacy attacked first and they paid the price which was total defeat.

They were not heroes. They went against everything the founding fathers tried to establish

A just union

There was no justice , just greedy people who wanted to use other people to increase their own personal wealth.

They were individuals and to bring them over required that they be treated as people and not property if they really believed in the constitutuion. A lesson had to be learned.

Confederacy attacked the Fort and the rest is history. It is what happens when the ego gets to big and they follow the dark side.

 

[mudwhistle]

I never worried about the names of Confederate heroes for our bases. Served at Fort Hood and Fort Bragg.

But times change, don't they? The CSA was a traitor nation, yes. There you go.

The Tennessean Nashville

A House committee attempted to ban Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth from using official funds to change military base names to evoke their original, Confederate-inspired titles in a rebuke of his war on diversity and inclusion policies in the military.

The House Armed Services Committee passed an amendment to its annual defense policy bill barring the Pentagon from using any of the funds from next year's defense budget to rename Defense Department installations in honor of Confederate figures.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fort-who-republicans-join-house-dems-to-bar-hegseth-s-military-base-name-changes/ar-AA1IISuL?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ASTS&cvid=ac92acb8859b4a0892703632b66282e6&ei=28

Confederates were Democrats. So they were total pieces of shit.

But I spent years at Ft Bragg....and I don't appreciate a bunch of communist assholes trying to impose their ridiculous nonsense on the rest of us.

 

[Delldude]

Why is the right so in love with traitorous enemies? Curious. What’s next Fort Hitler?

Why, after all these years, were the people in charge of Biden so triggered that they had to change this?

 

[Delldude]

Kidnap people and force them to work for plantation owners.

Or let them in illegally to pick our vegetables, clean our toilets and mow our lawns.

 

[JoeB131]

Why, after all these years, were the people in charge of Biden so triggered that they had to change this?

People have been trying to change the names of these bases for years, are you new?

 

[Delldude]

People have been trying to change the names of these bases for years, are you new?

Most recent after that cop accidentally killed a dope addict.

 

[JoeB131]

Most recent after that cop accidentally killed a dope addict.

Oh, I agree, it shouldn't have taken that long, but it did.

 

[Delldude]

Oh, I agree, it shouldn't have taken that long, but it did.

You're skirting the original issue noted.

 

[JoeB131]

You're skirting the original issue noted.

Um, "You're" Grammar sucks.

People had asked for those base names to be changed long before a racist white cop murdered George Floyd. Just like they asked that cops stop killing black people long before George Floyd.

The only time white people try to do the right thing is when black people threaten to burn their stuff.