Time to Pull the Plug on EV’s

[Toddsterpatriot]

But a cleaner product to combust than gasoline or diesel would be natural gas which is abundant and relatively cheap. It's already commercially viable and is a high energy density source compared to battery technology.

Hey, you're making sense.
Did you hack ding's account?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm not exactly sure of the chemistry but if we could access the hydrogen in such things as bio-diesel, Natural Gas Liquids, Methanol, and clean coal technology (turns yellow coal into diesel)

We could do that. But why? You waste a large portion of the energy in the feedstock and you still end up relesing CO2, so what's the benefit?

 

[Captain Caveman]

That'd be a great idea!! It's not like hydrogen has a tendency to leak or corrode metal.

What's the benefit again?

Hopefully to keep infrastructure such as existing gas mains and boilers, with minor modifications. More achievable than trying to upgrade the electric network, plus, too costly to heat water and your home with electric.

As it's possible to produce hydrogen at home, it's kinda like the solar panel idea of using what you've produced first and sell back what you don't need, if that's viable because I've no idea

 

[ding]

Maybe we can generate hydrogen using one of your heat powered solar panels?

You don't generate hydrogen. Hydrogen already exists. It's that whole conservation of mass thingee.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Hopefully to keep infrastructure such as existing gas mains and boilers, with minor modifications. More achievable than trying to upgrade the electric network, plus, too costly to heat water and your home with electric.

As it's possible to produce hydrogen at home, it's kinda like the solar panel idea of using what you've produced first and sell back what you don't need, if that's viable because I've no idea

Using electricity to make hydrogen and using that hydrogen to heat your home and water would be a lot more expensive than just using the electricity for heat and water.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You don't generate hydrogen. Hydrogen already exists. It's that whole conservation of mass thingee.

You do generate hydrogen gas, by breaking it off from other compounds.

 

[ding]

Don't expect an honest answer from Todd. He only knows how to criticize what he doesn't believe. He rarely is capable of stating what he does believe.

Hey, you're making sense.

I know.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I know.

Awwww, there's my lying ding again.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Using electricity to make hydrogen and using that hydrogen to heat your home and water would be a lot more expensive than just using the electricity for heat and water.

Hmm, it appears the change over is happening

Hydrogen boilers: everything you need to know - British Gas

In this article, we’ll bring you up to speed with the latest info and why it’s not really something to worry about.

www.britishgas.co.uk

 

[ding]

You do generate hydrogen gas, by breaking it off from other compounds.

It's called electrolysis, not hydrogen generator or hydrogen generation. Electrolysis. The process takes place in a unit called an electrolyzer, not a generator. Electrolyzer.

Hey, you're making sense.

I know.

 

[KissMy]

Lol. Funny that you think anyone has a plan but can not point to it.
Our electrical grid is just about maxed out. We are not building new power plants. But yet crazy fools are pretending that we will replace millions of cars with EVs. Some even point to wind and solar. Of course they can not explain how we are going to cover most of the ground with all that and still eat but it is a good pipe dream.

The US already gets over 23% of it's electricity from Wind & Solar & it's growth is just getting started. Renewables are already the largest source of electricity in the US behind Nat Gas. Renewables generate many times more than all electric vehicles will ever use.

 

[ding]

Hmm, it appears the change over is happening

Hydrogen boilers: everything you need to know - British Gas

In this article, we’ll bring you up to speed with the latest info and why it’s not really something to worry about.

www.britishgas.co.uk

It appears they are making long term plans for it to happen. It remains to be seen if they can actually pull it off.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's called electrolysis, not hydrogen generator or hydrogen generation. Electrolysis. The process takes place in a unit called an electrolyzer, not a generator. Electrolyzer.

That's not what it's called when you get it from natural gas.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Hmm, it appears the change over is happening

Hydrogen boilers: everything you need to know - British Gas

In this article, we’ll bring you up to speed with the latest info and why it’s not really something to worry about.

www.britishgas.co.uk

Yeah, lots of stupid, wasteful stuff is happening.
Probably to collect government subsidies. Or meet government mandates.
Or get brownie points from the greens.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The US already gets over 23% of it's electricity from Wind & Solar & it's growth is just getting started. Renewables are already the largest source of electricity in the US behind Nat Gas. Renewables generate many times more than all electric vehicles will ever use.

The US already gets over 23% of it's electricity from Wind & Solar & it's growth is just getting started.

More like 12%.

Renewables are already the largest source of electricity in the US behind Nat Gas.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

Coal produces more than wind and solar.

Nuclear produces more than wind and solar.

 

[ding]

That's not what it's called when you get it from natural gas.

Is it called a hydrogen generator

 

[ding]

Yeah, lots of stupid, wasteful stuff is happening.
Probably to collect government subsidies. Or meet government mandates.
Or get brownie points from the greens.

Actually the potential benefits of hydrogen - if they can solve the commercial and technical challenges (which are daunting) - is huge. Replacing natural gas home boilers with hydrogen fired boilers wouldn't have been my first choice though.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is it called a hydrogen generator

Does it generate hydrogen gas?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The US already gets over 23% of it's electricity from Wind & Solar & it's growth is just getting started. Renewables are already the largest source of electricity in the US behind Nat Gas. Renewables generate many times more than all electric vehicles will ever use.

Renewables generate many times more than all electric vehicles will ever use.

Only because we'll never have all that many.

 

[ding]

Does it generate hydrogen gas?

You should trademark "hydrogen generator" before someone beats you to it.