Time to Pull the Plug on EV’s

[westwall]

An intelligent species would only have used fossil fuel technology long enough to graduate to clean energy. It is amazing the people have so little faith in the inventiveness of our race.

There is no such thing as clean energy. Thus, the object should be to use the MOST EFFICIENT energy source.

Nuclear is the most efficient, followed by fossil fuels. That is a simple fact.

 

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EV's are so fantastic it makes me wonder why we all don't have one

I drive an EV golf cart.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Hydrogen is much harder to move and store.
It has much less energy than the same volume of natural gas.
You can't use the same gas tanks, what pressure are you willing to use in your car?

We all know hydrogen cars need a pressurized tank in the boot (trunk).

 

[Captain Caveman]

I drive an EV golf cart.

Just think of the carbon footprint that has caused by manufacturing and rechanging a golf cart when simply walking suffices.

In fact, having local communities with local shops, work etc... is much more carbon advantageous then ICE vehicles and EV's. But that's how the planet revolves.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We all know hydrogen cars need a pressurized tank in the boot (trunk).

How much pressure should we use?

 

[there4eyeM]

Which clean energy?

"Google" it!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"Google" it!

Nuclear sounds great!!

Will 100 new reactors be enough?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I should, and you should trademark, "heat-powered solar panel".

What temperature does it take to get those solar panel electrons to flow?
Does heat make them work at night too?

Dystrophics Green With Envy Over Muscle Cars

If I tried to trademark "Eco-buggy," the Ministry of Truth would deny my application.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Here's one story of such a disaster. It turns out that EVs use resistance electric heaters, extremely inefficient and when temperatures were so cold that the battery is already at risk.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/01/04/imagine-virginias-icy-traffic-catastrophe-with-only-electric-vehicles/

Don't get me wrong; I love electric vehicles. I'm pre-reserved (significant deposit) for an electric van I'll do a wheelchair conversion for my wife. For local trips in reasonable weather, it will be cool.

And in spite of some who seem to want to attack me personally for their own dislike of hydrogen, I'm also not the owner of the idea of hydrogen; I just mentioned it as an option.

I didn't expect political or religious fervor about the future of automobiles.

Whatever Good Gaia Does, Man Can Do Better

The nature-lovers are superstitious. By definition, nature can't be supernatural. It is really demonic; that's why primitive religions beg God to save their people from its vicious wanton destruction.

Nature is a crime against humanity. Natural air, which this Unabomber Cult calls "Clean Air," is the most toxic of all atmospheres humans have had to put up with. It is full of harmful viruses, bacteria, and insects—all of which "pollution" kills.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Give it a fucking rest.

There are people far, far, smarter than you who believe differently than you and are working hard to deal with all of those things you mention and are having huge technological success with it.

If Edison had to deal with people like you, we'd still never have the lightbulb. It just wasn't possible. Electrifying cities and rural communities was far too expensive when we already had candles and coal stoves.

The automobile itself would never have been made. Oh sure, Henry Ford can make a car everyone can afford but how the hell are you going to drive it? Where the hell are you going to get that extremely explosive, dangerous, expensive to produce, gasoline required to run the damn thing - especially when you're in the middle of Kansas?

Why the hell do you think you have to defeat me on hydrogen? I'm not their fucking emissary; I just mentioned it as a viable option. I realize now that you know more than all of those who are working to overcome the obstacles but your fight is with them, not with me.

Just let it fucking go.

Let This Hippy Fad Flutter Off Into the Wind Like a Flimsy Kite

Rest is rot.

It is cultural appropriation to compare Promethean creators like Edison, Ford, and Rockefeller to the academic eunuchs who pose as scientists today. These escapist fantasizing nerds' worship of Nature is primitive and pre-scientific. They are weaklings who puff themselves up by pretending to be comic-book superheroes out to save the world.

 

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Just think of the carbon footprint that has caused by manufacturing and rechanging a golf cart when simply walking suffices.

In fact, having local communities with local shops, work etc... is much more carbon advantageous then ICE vehicles and EV's. But that's how the planet revolves.

So EV's are bad?????

 

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Just think of the carbon footprint that has caused by manufacturing and rechanging a golf cart

When you put it that way I think I'll buy a second one.

 

[Captain Caveman]

How much pressure should we use?

Lots

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Which clean energy?

Common Sense, Not Commie Science

We already have it, though we don't get it. Auto emissions cleanse the air from deadly microbes, which need a pre-ICE biosphere in order to do the dirty work that MF Nature designed them for.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You can't use the same gas tanks, what pressure are you willing to use in your car?

PC Kaboom!

Ask Teller and Sakharov; they invented the hydrogen bomb.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Well at least if everybody had EVs you would have plenty of company.

Hansel and Greta

Socialist paradise, where everybody huddles together in misery.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Lots

Sounds expensive.
How many miles can you get on one tank?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Auto emissions cleanse the air from deadly microbes,

Link?

 

[Captain Caveman]

So EV's are bad?????

Yes, they're only 17% to 30% less bad than an ICE vehicle. That's not factoring in how bad they are on your wallet too.

Do you think they're good?????

 

[Captain Caveman]

Sounds expensive.
How many miles can you get on one tank?

Depends how fast you drive, up hill or down hill, and what weight is being towed. So that's a bit of string question.