Time to attack iran

[rhodescholar]

how's that working out?

Clearly not well, which is why a war on the peninsula is all the more likely.

I know crazy notion, since there was already a war there, oh 50 years ago? And its really far-fetched given that NK keeps firing missiles and stealing the citizens of japan, while illegally testing nuclear weapons and threatening s korea, yeah that is really far-fetched LOL.

Clueless...

 

[Shogun]

No need to, the regime claims 20 have been killed, but there are widespread reports that there are thousands missing, with mass graves reported and bodies buried without the families being allowed to see them prior to burial.



eh.. who needs evidence when some self righteous screaming dickhead can type his assumptions out in the quick reply field.

 

[HUGGY]

No need to, the regime claims 20 have been killed, but there are widespread reports that there are thousands missing, with mass graves reported and bodies buried without the families being allowed to see them prior to burial.



eh.. who needs evidence when some self righteous screaming dickhead can type his assumptions out in the quick reply field.

who needs evidence when some self righteous screaming dickhead can type his assumptions out in the quick reply field

No one that advocates a war of choice is self righteous...a screaming dickhead that can type... maybe.

 

[L.K.Eder]

see, we almost had a decent conversation. then you go on a stupid rant again. you are the one advocating and wishing for war.

I wasn't necessarily pointing at you exclusively. My point was that many seemingly condone iran not having to act responsibly with respect to the NPT, or can use an d apply methods of violence - but these same people will scream to high heaven if/when the US does something similar. I do not think that this statement is in question.

link to the body count or retract your number.

The regime claims 20 have been killed, but there are widespread reports that there are thousands missing, with mass graves reported and bodies buried without the families being allowed to see them prior to burial.

See:

International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran – Killed and Detained Since 12 June

yeah, that source does not support your "thousands slaughtered" talking point.

reminds of the crocodile tears for the iraqi kurds. tha mass graves, saddam is bad man! war! war! war!

yours are crocodile tears, too, and you try to use the victims in Iran to find an excuse to start a war.

you are on record, and i write this the third or forth time now, for rooting for ahmadinejad and for advocating terrorist attacks on the iranian civilian population.

ETA links

 

[rhodescholar]

yeah, that source does not support your "thousands slaughtered" talking point.

This one does, and I will acquire more:

International Left Should Stop Supporting Iran's Islamic Regime | Mostly Water

http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=30138

The regime has murdered tens of thousands of people, and only in the last few weeks, thousands more have disappeared...

reminds of the crocodile tears for the iraqi kurds. tha mass graves, saddam is bad man! war! war! war!

#1-are you claiming that several thousand kurds were not gassed and murdered?
#2-are you also claiming that mass graves were not found by US troops after saddam's overthrow?

yours are crocodile tears, too, and you try to use the victims in Iran to find an excuse to start a war.

I state that there are times when only a military solution will suffice, and after 6 years and 3 UNSC resolutions, with zero progress, it is time for a new approach.

you are on record, and i write this the third or forth time now, for ...

I noticed that when the other poster claimed that attacks against the US would be justifiable by other nations, such as Nicaragua, you made no comment.

When I said I agreed with the other poster about that point, you again made no comment.

Who is being selectively critical here?

 

[rhodescholar]

you are on record, and i write this the third or forth time now, for rooting for ahmadinejad and for advocating terrorist attacks on the iranian civilian population.
ETA links

Any iranian citizens, or citizens of anywhere else, that support suicide bombings and rocket attacks against civilians deserve to receive the same. I stand by my comment...

 

[L.K.Eder]

yeah, that source does not support your "thousands slaughtered" talking point.

This one does, and I will acquire more:

International Left Should Stop Supporting Iran's Islamic Regime | Mostly Water

FrontPage Magazine - Iran’s Killing Fields

The regime has murdered tens of thousands of people, and only in the last few weeks, thousands more have disappeared...

reminds of the crocodile tears for the iraqi kurds. tha mass graves, saddam is bad man! war! war! war!

#1-are you claiming that several thousand kurds were not gassed and murdered?
#2-are you also claiming that mass graves were not found by US troops after saddam's overthrow?

no i am not claiming this. i am claiming that when the actual gassing happened that no one in the USA was too much interested in all this. either too busy cheering on Saddam against the evil "Islamofascists" who were attacked by Saddam, or ignorant of it.

the gassed kurds became interesting when they could be pimped to excuse the war of choice in iraq, but you knew that.

yours are crocodile tears, too, and you try to use the victims in Iran to find an excuse to start a war.

I state that there are times when only a military solution will suffice, and after 6 years and 3 UNSC resolutions, with zero progress, it is time for a new approach.

you are on record, and i write this the third or forth time now, for ...

I noticed that when the other poster claimed that attacks against the US would be justifiable by other nations, such as Nicaragua, you made no comment.

When I said I agreed with the other poster about that point, you again made no comment.

Who is being selectively critical here?

i am selectively critical of you, because i am having a conversation with you.

and i actually commented on that, as i recall you had the "bring it on" attitude knowing that the nicaraguan army would never try something as foolish as attacking the US. but if nicaraguan agents would use guerrilla warfare / terrorism to fight the US in the USA, you'd break down crying and screaming, this is no fair. nuke the bastard animals, right?

 

[L.K.Eder]

this is what you wrote:

Is that something you advocate/wish for? Why would any sane person want iran, who has just shown its true colors murdering thousands of its own people - to have nuclear weapons?

clearly states that you are talking about the RECENT crackdown.

you confirmed that with your first try at sourcing.

now you try to run this bullshit by me. where it states among all the "leftist" screaching that their number is the number of all murdered since 1979 with the last major purge in 1988.

The last major wave of the purge of the revolutionaries was during July-September of 1988, when Khomeini, having signed the cease fire with Iraq (he called it "drinking of the poison goblet"), gave a religious edict (fatwa) to execute all political prisoners. Close to 5,000 persons, including revolutionary workers and communists, were hanged and executed in prisons all over Iran.

the site of the mass graves for this massacre btw, the khavaran cemetery was recently destroyed.

your second source has an interview which starts with this:

Nikbakht: Thank you for your concern and for having me on the Frontpage. It is nice to see there are alternatives to the traditional left and "liberals" who have abandoned their pretense of defending freedom and equality worldwide and have allied themselves with Islamic fundamentalists and extremists.

you fucked up again.

 

[rhodescholar]

you confirmed that with your first try at sourcing.

Ok, fine. Lets stick to the RECENT crackdown. So the iri fuckers murder a few hundred, and thousands are missing, but that's alright?

Its like listening to the holocaust deniers- "there were only THREE million killed - definitely NOT SIX million...

Who gives a ****?

Further, what is your point? That the animals running iran are not so monstrous?

you fucked up again.

Uh, how's that?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

"Unlike Iran and North Korea - two countries whose alleged nuclear ambitions have recently come to the fore - Israel has never signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, designed to prevent the global spread of nuclear weapons.

As a result, it is not subject to inspections and the threat of sanctions by the United Nations nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency."

now why is this okay? take your time.

Because it's ISREAL!!! How many UN mandates has Israel broken?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Well since somebody brought up the Kurds I seem to remember us leaving them with their dicks out after GWI. Seems to me they were trying to overthrow Saddam with help from the CIA but we pulled our support and sat back while they were slaughtered.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

You see if you want to look at the larger world wide consequenses of our foreign policy then you will see that the US has supported nearly every dictator ay one time or another and you wonder why so many people HATE us.

 

[rhodescholar]

no i am not claiming this. i am claiming that when the actual gassing happened that no one in the USA was too much interested in all this. either too busy cheering on Saddam against the evil "Islamofascists" who were attacked by Saddam, or ignorant of it. the gassed kurds became interesting when they could be pimped to excuse the war of choice in iraq, but you knew that.

I do not totally agree, but understand your point. Remember, back in 1988 there was no internet like today, so the media was alot smaller than it is today...

and i actually commented on that, as i recall you had the "bring it on" attitude knowing that the nicaraguan army would never try something as foolish as attacking the US. but if nicaraguan agents would use guerrilla warfare / terrorism to fight the US in the USA, you'd break down crying and screaming, this is no fair. nuke the bastard animals, right?

Not at all. Uniformed, direct frontal assaults are acceptable - non-uniformed attacks against civilians using asymmetrical attacks like suicide bombings are not.

If the Nicaraguans were in the right, World Opinion would have favored them...

 

[Cold Fusion38]

How the hell am I an "unknown" quantity? I think I have made my position pretty clear.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Hey Rhoad so if we ILLEGALLY INVADE a country then are they required to all go out and buy uniforms? And make no mistake about it a PREVENTITIVE war is NOT the same as a PREEMTIVE war.

 

[rhodescholar]

Because it's ISREAL!!! How many UN mandates has Israel broken?

LOL, this thread is like a leftist's wet dream, every cause of the moment for the leftist chic gets a push by someone...

 

[rhodescholar]

Here is a superb web site of persians, BY persians, of the people murdered by the regime, and those who have "disappeared"...

Faces of the Iranians killed and Arrested

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Ah Rhoad no answer huh?

 

[Sunni Man]

Here is a superb web site of persians, BY persians, of the people murdered by the regime, and those who have "disappeared"...

Faces of the Iranians killed and Arrested

Most likely a CIA or a Zionist backed and funded site.

 

[goldcatt]

How the hell am I an "unknown" quantity? I think I have made my position pretty clear.

Might as well give up, Cold. You're trying to converse with a person who thinks people care enough about it to create hundreds of sock puppets just to harass it.

Better to decide whether to ignore it or turn it into a pinata. Nothing else is a realistic option.