Three Soleimani Questions

[MisterBeale]

As I posted in another thread, it is all about the oily gorilla in the room that no one wants to talk about.

I am getting tired of repeating myself. No one, on the left, or on the right, will do any thinking.


Americans KNOW this.

How do we know?

Here is the oily gorilla in the room that EVERYONE knows is there.

What You Should Know About Petrodollars

Trump isn't even bothering to hide the agenda;

US Troops Staying in Syria to 'Keep the Oil' Have Already Killed Hundreds

Trump OKs wider Syria oil mission, raising legal questions

Trump’s Baffling Plan to Pillage Syria’s Oil




READ.
No matter how much you indoctrinate folks in schools and in the corporate/government media, folks can only be dumbed down so much.

They WILL NOT FIGHT FOR OIL ANYMORE. It needs to end.

Who Signs Up to Fight? Makeup of U.S. Recruits Shows Glaring Disparity
Who Signs Up to Fight? Makeup of U.S. Recruits Shows Glaring Disparity

Facts don't lie, no matter how much bullshit you parrot from your social networks, conservative radio, liberal MSM, CFR-government colluded think tanks or TEE VEE.

They need to fight wars to stabilize the petro dollar. They need to tax energy to prop up the petro dollar.

EVERYTHING is about the petro dollar.

Forget all the propaganda they tell you on the radio, in your social media, from the U.N., on the TEE VEE, it is always about the international banking cabal and the petro dollars. . . .

 

[MisterBeale]

He was designated a terrorist before Trump took office, end of story

By whom?

Executive Order 12333 - Wikipedia

"Proscription on assassination[edit]

"Part 2.11 of this executive order reiterates a proscription on US intelligence agencies sponsoring or carrying out an assassination. It reads:[5]

"No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.

"Previously, EO 11905 (Gerald Ford) had banned political assassinations and EO 12036 (Jimmy Carter) had further banned indirect U.S. involvement in assassinations.[6]

"As early as 1998, this proscription against assassination was reinterpreted, and relaxed, for targets who are classified by the United States as connected to terrorism."

Statement by the Department of Defense > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE > Release

Esper: No Evidence Iran Planned to Attack Four Embassies
Esper: No Evidence Iran Planned to Attack Four Embassies

 

[Yarddog]

He was designated a terrorist before Trump took office, end of story

By whom?

Executive Order 12333 - Wikipedia

"Proscription on assassination[edit]

"Part 2.11 of this executive order reiterates a proscription on US intelligence agencies sponsoring or carrying out an assassination. It reads:[5]

"No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.

"Previously, EO 11905 (Gerald Ford) had banned political assassinations and EO 12036 (Jimmy Carter) had further banned indirect U.S. involvement in assassinations.[6]

"As early as 1998, this proscription against assassination was reinterpreted, and relaxed, for targets who are classified by the United States as connected to terrorism."

Statement by the Department of Defense > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE > Release

Esper: No Evidence Iran Planned to Attack Four Embassies
Esper: No Evidence Iran Planned to Attack Four Embassies

Was Osama Bin Laden planning an immenant attack when Obama took him out in his bedroom?

Thing is , you never know. But you do know they are a terrorist, so everything is on the table. Get over your TDS

 

[westwall]

Ummm, it's YOUR socialist heros who run up those massive body counts, you flaming moron.

No...capitalists were responsible for the two great wars of the 20th Century, and it is capitalists today who are earning profits from the mass murder across the Middle East and Africa.

Stalin and Mao, between them, murdered more than 125 million of their own people you ignorant twerp. Try learning some history before you try and lecture your betters.

 

[MisterBeale]

He was designated a terrorist before Trump took office, end of story

By whom?

Executive Order 12333 - Wikipedia

"Proscription on assassination[edit]

"Part 2.11 of this executive order reiterates a proscription on US intelligence agencies sponsoring or carrying out an assassination. It reads:[5]

"No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.

"Previously, EO 11905 (Gerald Ford) had banned political assassinations and EO 12036 (Jimmy Carter) had further banned indirect U.S. involvement in assassinations.[6]

"As early as 1998, this proscription against assassination was reinterpreted, and relaxed, for targets who are classified by the United States as connected to terrorism."

Statement by the Department of Defense > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE > Release

Esper: No Evidence Iran Planned to Attack Four Embassies
Esper: No Evidence Iran Planned to Attack Four Embassies

Was Osama Bin Laden planning an immenant attack when Obama took him out in his bedroom?

Thing is , you never know. But you do know they are a terrorist, so everything is on the table. Get over your TDS

PROVE that Obama did anything. Do you have any evidence that OBL didn't die of Kidney failure in 2001 and that he wasn't a CIA asset?

I have an Egyptian Obituary and a famous Pakistani Politician giving an interview on a well regarded English news program saying he was dead by the end of 2001.

I have REAL EVIDENCE that says Obama is a liar.
(Paul Craig Roberts was a Treasury under-secretary in the Reagan Admin.)
Bin Laden’s Obituary Notice
Bin Laden's Obituary Notice - PaulCraigRoberts.org
Osama Bin Laden is dead since December 26, 2001. Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper
Osama Bin Laden is dead since December 26, 2001. Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper al-Wafd

"al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden’s Death and Funeral 10 days ago
Islamabad –

A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa’da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death.

The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa’da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban.

In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden."


This is confirmed by Benazie Bhutto, as she said in an interview for Al Jazeera English, on a program called, "Frost Over the World," with Sir David Paradine Frost.

"Pakistani President, Pervez Musharraf, in his book 'In the Line of Fire' stated that Sheikh was originally recruited by British intelligence agency, MI6, while studying at the London School of Economics. He alleges Omar Sheikh was sent to the Balkans by MI6 to engage in jihadi operations. Musharraf later went on to state "At some point, he probably became a rogue or double agent". In an interview given to David Frost in November 2007, Benazir Bhutto states that Osama bin Laden was killed by Omar Sheikh. Omar Chatriwala, a journalist for Al Jazeera English, claims that he chose not to pursue the story at the time because it was an apparent slip of the tongue. A month before Frost interview, in Oct 2007, Bhutto stated in an interview that she would cooperate with the American military in targeting Osama bin Laden."

IOW, Omar Sheikh, double agent, was more than likely in Tora Bora, and you have been lied too. You also now know the reason, and the person, who, in all likelihood assassinated Benazir Bhutto.





What do you have that makes you believe Obama is telling you the truth?


. . . a "picture of them watching it?"

 

[Yarddog]

He was designated a terrorist before Trump took office, end of story

By whom?

Executive Order 12333 - Wikipedia

"Proscription on assassination[edit]

"Part 2.11 of this executive order reiterates a proscription on US intelligence agencies sponsoring or carrying out an assassination. It reads:[5]

"No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.

"Previously, EO 11905 (Gerald Ford) had banned political assassinations and EO 12036 (Jimmy Carter) had further banned indirect U.S. involvement in assassinations.[6]

"As early as 1998, this proscription against assassination was reinterpreted, and relaxed, for targets who are classified by the United States as connected to terrorism."

Statement by the Department of Defense > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE > Release

Esper: No Evidence Iran Planned to Attack Four Embassies
Esper: No Evidence Iran Planned to Attack Four Embassies

Was Osama Bin Laden planning an immenant attack when Obama took him out in his bedroom?

Thing is , you never know. But you do know they are a terrorist, so everything is on the table. Get over your TDS

PROVE that Obama did anything. Do you have any evidence that OBL didn't die of Kidney failure in 2001 and that he wasn't a CIA asset?

I have an Egyptian Obituary and a famous Pakistani Politician giving an interview on a well regarded English news program saying he was dead by the end of 2001.

I have REAL EVIDENCE that says Obama is a liar.
(Paul Craig Roberts was a Treasury under-secretary in the Reagan Admin.)
Bin Laden’s Obituary Notice
Bin Laden's Obituary Notice - PaulCraigRoberts.org
Osama Bin Laden is dead since December 26, 2001. Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper
Osama Bin Laden is dead since December 26, 2001. Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper al-Wafd

"al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden’s Death and Funeral 10 days ago
Islamabad –

A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa’da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death.

The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa’da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban.

In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden."


This is confirmed by Benazie Bhutto, as she said in an interview for Al Jazeera English, on a program called, "Frost Over the World," with Sir David Paradine Frost.

"Pakistani President, Pervez Musharraf, in his book 'In the Line of Fire' stated that Sheikh was originally recruited by British intelligence agency, MI6, while studying at the London School of Economics. He alleges Omar Sheikh was sent to the Balkans by MI6 to engage in jihadi operations. Musharraf later went on to state "At some point, he probably became a rogue or double agent". In an interview given to David Frost in November 2007, Benazir Bhutto states that Osama bin Laden was killed by Omar Sheikh. Omar Chatriwala, a journalist for Al Jazeera English, claims that he chose not to pursue the story at the time because it was an apparent slip of the tongue. A month before Frost interview, in Oct 2007, Bhutto stated in an interview that she would cooperate with the American military in targeting Osama bin Laden."

IOW, Omar Sheikh, double agent, was more than likely in Tora Bora, and you have been lied too. You also now know the reason, and the person, who, in all likelihood assassinated Benazir Bhutto.





What do you have that makes you believe Obama is telling you the truth?


. . . a "picture of them watching it?"

Whatever.. bottom line is they are just ok fine with Obama taking out a terrorist, but if Trump does it, its basically another impeachable offense

 

[georgephillip]

That whole "global warming" and AGW thing is a myth as well though

What do you know that NASA does not?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

"Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.

"Click here for a partial list of these public statements and related resources."

 

[MisterBeale]

Refer back to that post about me trusting the government.

 

[georgephillip]

Are you seriously trying to say Putin wanted Soeilemani dead? and yes, he was a legit target just as much as Yamamoto. Was killing Americans at pearl harbor any worse than killing Americans with IED's? Once more Soleimani was classified as a Terrorist by the US before Trump was elected, so he was eligible for removal. Stop trying to pretend he was just a diplomat.

You probably believe in "the glory of the American experiment"?

Soleimani had diplomatic immunity, and he was actively trying to reduce tensions between his country and Saudi Arabia at Trump's request:

The West Is Run by Barbarians - Global Research

"...the Prime Minister of Iraq, Adil Abdul-Mahdi, said in disbelief and awe: 'Trump asked me to mediate with Iran – and then he kills my invitee.'

"Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi has certainly more credibility than Trump or any of his cronies, foremost US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who not too long ago told RT: '[When] I was the CIA director, we lied, we cheated, we stole. We had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment.'"

"General Soleimani was picked up at Bagdad airport by Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the Iraqi military commander and leader of the People’s Mobilization Forces.

"They drove off in a SUV, when US-drone missiles hit and pulverized them, along with 10 other high-ranking military from both countries.

"Soleimani had diplomatic immunity – and the US knew about it...."

"General Soleimani, who was much more than a general, he was also a great diplomat, was asked by PM Abdul-Mahdi on behalf of Trump to come to Bagdad to be part of a mediation process that Trump asked PM Abdul-Mahdi to lead, to ease tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia, as well as between the US and Iran."

 

[georgephillip]

Send Iran pallets stacked with cash?

You know, like Obama did after Iran reportedly killed ambassador Stevens in Benghazi.

More sanctions perhaps?

The West Is Run by Barbarians - Global Research

"New sanctions on Iran– The Master Barbarian Trump says new sanctions will be added to those already existing, sanctions that will hurt even more – and, yes, he says, like the Good Father of Mother Earth talking to his children, it’s all up to the Iranians, they can behave like a good nation behaves, or they will be punished with sanctions. And they will hurt. It’s entirely up to them.

"No description of what the appropriate behavior for the Barbarians would involve.

"Can you believe this? – If you wouldn’t witness such aberrant BS with your own eyes and ears, it would be truly unbelievable, that the world is run by such un-people, well, Barbarians – and, yes, again – the docile people of this globe accept it, say nothing, keep silent.

"Thousands of people may die again from the sanctions – confiscated medical equipment, medication, food – imposed on Iran, as did in Venezuela – 40,000 according to a recent study by the Washington thinktank, CEPR – only because Iran has backbone, and dares not to kneel in front of the Barbarian king to do his bidding."

 

[georgephillip]

He was designated a terrorist before Trump took office, end of story

By whom?

Executive Order 12333 - Wikipedia

"Proscription on assassination[edit]

"Part 2.11 of this executive order reiterates a proscription on US intelligence agencies sponsoring or carrying out an assassination. It reads:[5]

"No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.

"Previously, EO 11905 (Gerald Ford) had banned political assassinations and EO 12036 (Jimmy Carter) had further banned indirect U.S. involvement in assassinations.[6]

"As early as 1998, this proscription against assassination was reinterpreted, and relaxed, for targets who are classified by the United States as connected to terrorism."

Statement by the Department of Defense > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE > Release

"Did Mike Pompeo Say on Russian State TV that the CIA ‘Lied, Cheated, Stole’?
Context always matters — including location..."

"But in terms of how you think about problem sets, when I was a cadet, what’s the cadet motto at West Point? ‘You will not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate those who do.’ I was the CIA director, we lied, we cheated, we stole. That’s, it was like, we had entire training courses.

"It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment."

Did Mike Pompeo Say on Russian State TV that the CIA 'Lied, Cheated, Stole'?

 

[georgephillip]

Here is the oily gorilla in the room that EVERYONE knows is there.

What You Should Know About Petrodollars

Petrodollars have supported the US Empire since 1971:

America Escalates its "Democratic" Oil War in the Near East | Michael Hudson

"Saudi Arabia and other Near Eastern OPEC countries quickly became a buttress of the dollar.

"After these countries quadrupled the price of oil (in retaliation for the United States quadrupling the price of its grain exports, a mainstay of the U.S. trade balance), U.S. banks were swamped with an inflow of foreign deposits – which were lent out to Third World countries in an explosion of bad loans that blew up in 1972 with Mexico’s insolvency.

"This destroyed Third World government credit for a decade, forcing it into dependence on the United States via the IMF and World Bank."

 

[georgephillip]

Stalin and Mao, between them, murdered more than 125 million of their own people you ignorant twerp. Try learning some history before you try and lecture your betters.

How many millions of native Americans did your heroic ancestors murder for their land and water? And then there's chattel slavery's contribution to your Great White Lie?

Slavery Made America
...by 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States.

"In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined."

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Stalin and Mao, between them, murdered more than 125 million of their own people you ignorant twerp. Try learning some history before you try and lecture your betters.

How many millions of native Americans did your heroic ancestors murder for their land and water? And then there's chattel slavery's contribution to your Great White Lie?

Slavery Made America
...by 1860, there were more millionaires (slaveholders all) living in the lower Mississippi Valley than anywhere else in the United States.

"In the same year, the nearly 4 million American slaves were worth some $3.5 billion, making them the largest single financial asset in the entire U.S. economy, worth more than all manufacturing and railroads combined."

Maybe you should find some other country more to your liking

 

[georgephillip]

Refer back to that post about me trusting the government.

Do you believe nothing government tells you?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Are you seriously trying to say Putin wanted Soeilemani dead? and yes, he was a legit target just as much as Yamamoto. Was killing Americans at pearl harbor any worse than killing Americans with IED's? Once more Soleimani was classified as a Terrorist by the US before Trump was elected, so he was eligible for removal. Stop trying to pretend he was just a diplomat.

You probably believe in "the glory of the American experiment"?

Soleimani had diplomatic immunity, and he was actively trying to reduce tensions between his country and Saudi Arabia at Trump's request:

The West Is Run by Barbarians - Global Research

"...the Prime Minister of Iraq, Adil Abdul-Mahdi, said in disbelief and awe: 'Trump asked me to mediate with Iran – and then he kills my invitee.'

"Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi has certainly more credibility than Trump or any of his cronies, foremost US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who not too long ago told RT: '[When] I was the CIA director, we lied, we cheated, we stole. We had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment.'"

"General Soleimani was picked up at Bagdad airport by Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the Iraqi military commander and leader of the People’s Mobilization Forces.

"They drove off in a SUV, when US-drone missiles hit and pulverized them, along with 10 other high-ranking military from both countries.

"Soleimani had diplomatic immunity – and the US knew about it...."

"General Soleimani, who was much more than a general, he was also a great diplomat, was asked by PM Abdul-Mahdi on behalf of Trump to come to Bagdad to be part of a mediation process that Trump asked PM Abdul-Mahdi to lead, to ease tensions between Iran and Saudi Arabia, as well as between the US and Iran."

All made up after the fact by democrats.

 

[dblack]

Get back to US when our “top General” has murdered 600 Iranians, stormed the Iranian embassy. TIA.

Hmmm..... you're not well versed on recent US history, are you?

 

[georgephillip]

Maybe you should find some other country more to your liking

Better to change this country into what it will be.

Let America Be America Again by Langston Hughes - Poems | poets.org

 

[MisterBeale]

Here is the oily gorilla in the room that EVERYONE knows is there.

What You Should Know About Petrodollars

Petrodollars have supported the US Empire since 1971:

America Escalates its "Democratic" Oil War in the Near East | Michael Hudson

"Saudi Arabia and other Near Eastern OPEC countries quickly became a buttress of the dollar.

"After these countries quadrupled the price of oil (in retaliation for the United States quadrupling the price of its grain exports, a mainstay of the U.S. trade balance), U.S. banks were swamped with an inflow of foreign deposits – which were lent out to Third World countries in an explosion of bad loans that blew up in 1972 with Mexico’s insolvency.

"This destroyed Third World government credit for a decade, forcing it into dependence on the United States via the IMF and World Bank."

Now, if you can comprehend that the entire global order rests on this?

Then surely you understand why US foundations, specifically fund certain scientists to arrive at conclusions they so, and why US science agencies say what they do about carbon vis-à-vis climate.

I am NOT saying the environment does not need protecting or that climate change does not exist. What I am saying?

It is not dependent on our use of oil. International elites are more concerned with the international reserve currency than the health of the planet. All corporate news is, at it's heart, PROPAGANDA. You should know this by now. seven stats on climate change

I am sure you are smart enough to understand how corporate CFR media is in lock stop with the interlocking directorate on Wall-street, and other corporations to protect the established order to want to protect the petrodollar. All they care about is money, power and complete control.

If they had their way, the world would be headed toward what the Chinese are doing. . . .

 

[MisterBeale]

Refer back to that post about me trusting the government.

Do you believe nothing government tells you?

Only stuff I can confirm secondarily.

If I sense an secondary agenda. . . of course not.

If you do not see the connection between creating a carbon tax on the use of energy tied to the petrodollar and the world's reserve currency?

You really aren't that bright.