So in short, yiou seem to be admitting that the only reason you enter the conversation is to attempt (repeat) "ATTEMPT" to stick it to me. However Jackass, I don't beleive I have EVER said that a person couldn't be retired for medical reasons. I said YOU have shown that you have not been. the proof is right their in you own arguements.
No I hadn't intended to continue this and would rather let sleeping dogs lie. but if you persist, I will point out the facts of which I have recently been appraised "BY THE HORSES MOUTH". --- (The veteran's administration).
But as I have just stated. you seem destined just to make more noise, instead of concentration on worthwhile issues.
You may point out whatever you think are my imperfections as much as you please but I will still have my say, and I doubt your opinions have very much of a following.
This is the point at which you made your latest assault, so this is where I will respond even tho you cowardly retreated to a different thread You just couldn't let it rest so----
OK, since you insist, here goes.
I have just moved to a place very near to the basic headquarters of the veteran's administration regarding disability. so I decided to visit them, for the first time in some forty-odd years. basically because of our stupid discussion. so I learned the total scoop from the horses mouth ,so to speak. what I learned was that with minor exceptions, mostly terminology, the conditions were the same as they were fifty years ago.
Yes, I went to orientation lectures at the time, and was informed then, (and now) that there were those who due to the extent of their disabilities would receive a severance pay, and after a certain time, may or may not receive monthly disability payments.and some could receive as much as three times base pay for those disabilities. this is one place where rules have changed. some can now receive even more.
The only difference between your case and mine is the degree of disability, and consequently a slight difference in treatment. Mine was classified as 30% (later raised to 50 %) while you have stated that yours was in the range of 70 to 100% This is one of the few places where you got it right. (more on that later) Your range would allow you to be treated differently. At that point you would be given special privileges that normally only are afforded to the retired. "THUS BEING TREATED AS RETIRED" Please note this is not the same as BEING Retired.
I certainly never have meant or meant to say a person COULDN'T be retired and still receive disability payments In fact they could, but only in specific circumstance. TO WIT
They must complete their 20 Years service (actually 20 years, six months) to be retired ---If the person were to remain on some sort of inactive duty for the remainder of that time. they could indeed be retired, and receive retiremnet pay "AND IN ADDITION" receive disability benefits.
. In such a case they would be dipping into two different accounts.-- Retirement benefis, and Disability payments. You have never claimed that, in fact you stated flatly that you were receiving Disability Payments only. A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ACCOUNT THAN RETIREMENT PAYMENTS.
I was informed by the powers that be that you (as you have expressed your situation) can not be truely retired. but only TREATED (in some respects) as being retired. Further. were your claim true, I would also be "RETIRED" rather than on disability payments. I AM "NOT" retired. I am on permanent disability.
I have paterntly watched you post certain links, and then calmly misinterpet them, to your point of veiw.and then decl;are Absolute Victory. I can only beleive that you have done the same thing thruout your "So-called retirement. I recognized this, and tried several time to bring this discussion to a halt, and I realized that we woul;d never agree. but you insist on continuing a fruitless endevour.
However Just for your information, and from a more personal standpoint: I reaslize I have raised your dander by disrespecting, and refusing to respect your rank and position. YOU see, I have never yet met or conversed with a Gunnery Sgt who was not an absolutely dominering Prick (Including Both of the ones on this Forum) Seems to be something about that particular rank and duty that screws up an otherwise decent person. There are similar situations in other services, which I will not point out specifically.
I would give you far more respect as a Disabled veteran than I could ever offer a Gunny. So your nose is out of joint. ---TOUGH.
Now I don't really care what you beleive about me, but I have tried to put an end to this particular discussion as being totally pointless, and of no particular popsitive ort negative intrest to anyone but ourselves. And I would like this to end. but knowing you. I don't think you will every be anything but a jackass about it. All you are doing is continuing to waste everyone's time----Whatever.
