Were we completely lied to about Iran's "nuke program" just like before invading Iraq?

[Billiejeens]

So weird that the left has been dying on the "Iraq has no WMD's" hill for all of these years.

They had them
We know that they had them
We gave them to them when we thought that they were on our side.

 

[BlindBoo]

So weird that the left has been dying on the "Iraq has no WMD's" hill for all of these years.

They had them
We know that they had them
We gave them to them when we thought that they were on our side.

The claim from Bush was that they were actively producing and stockpiling nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. They weren't. They never recovered their programs after GHWB routed them from Kuwait. Rice and Powell said so, pre 9-11.

When in fact the only chemical, biological weapons they had were old dilapidated ordinance left over from the 1980's war with Iran.

Btw, we didn't give them to Iraq. We sold it to them and allowed our allies in Europe to sell him high level technology that allowed him to produce and use those chemical agents against his enemies in the 1980's

Recall...

• Colin Powell (February 2001): Shortly after becoming Secretary of State, Powell stated during a trip to Cairo that Saddam Hussein "has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction," and that sanctions were working to keep him in check.
• Condoleezza Rice (July 2001): Before the 9/11 attacks, when questioned on the status of Iraq's military, Rice acknowledged that Saddam did not have the conventional capability to threaten his neighbors, stating, "He is a threat to his neighbors, but we are keeping him in check".

 

[EMH]

"But when the U.S. and Israel attacked Iran on Feb. 28, there was no evidence that Iran was engaged in nuclear activities that would pose an imminent threat to the United States. Neither U.S. President Donald Trump nor Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu presented any evidence of an ongoing weaponization effort and, in a March 2 press conference, IAEA Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi said “we don’t see a structured program to manufacture nuclear weapons” in Iran. The following day, in an interview with CNN, Grossi was asked if “the Iranians were days or weeks away from building a bomb.” His response was "no."

Did Iran's Nuclear and Missile Programs Pose an Imminent Threat? No. | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org

What it is, we are lied to on EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE....

 

[EMH]

Da Jews! Da Jews!

The self proclaimed sub human doesn't care if Iran has nukes or not.

The self proclaimed sub human just cares about ISRAEL, and however many Americans die and however much the US taxpayer gets bilked again does not matter, since the self proclaimed sub human does not understand basic math...

 

[EMH]

They were right about Iraq.

Why should we trust Ratcliffe and not them?

 

[Billiejeens]

The claim from Bush was that they were actively producing and stockpiling nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. They weren't. They never recovered their programs after GHWB routed them from Kuwait. Rice and Powell said so, pre 9-11.

When in fact the only chemical, biological weapons they had were old dilapidated ordinance left over from the 1980's war with Iran.

Btw, we didn't give them to Iraq. We sold it to them and allowed our allies in Europe to sell him high level technology that allowed him to produce and use those chemical agents against his enemies in the 1980's

Recall...

• Colin Powell (February 2001): Shortly after becoming Secretary of State, Powell stated during a trip to Cairo that Saddam Hussein "has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction," and that sanctions were working to keep him in check.
• Condoleezza Rice (July 2001): Before the 9/11 attacks, when questioned on the status of Iraq's military, Rice acknowledged that Saddam did not have the conventional capability to threaten his neighbors, stating, "He is a threat to his neighbors, but we are keeping him in check".

You confirmed my point

I don't know if you meant to.

 

[BackAgain]

They were right about Iraq.

Why should we trust Ratcliffe and not them?

You’re still a major league empty headed dufus.

I don’t care who you trust. You’re not exactly on speaking terms with reality.

 

[White 6]

The sole "evidence" that Iran is pursuing nuke bombs is that "our intel says so."

The same "intel" that assured us Saddam had WMD...


NO nuke test.
No radiation leaks.
No radiation detected after the bombing 6 months ago.

NOTHING


Every single time "our intel" and "our media" open their mouths about this subject, they lie.

Oh, so the President lied and the nuke program wasn't destroyed? Rubio lied and they actually were still enriching? They were at 60%, which is a long way from the 85% to 90% necessary, and if we were not lied to, and the facilities were actually destroyed, the possibility was an is, a long way off. Certainly not possible year or two.

 

[EMH]

You’re still a major league empty headed dufus.

I don’t care who you trust. You’re not exactly on speaking terms with reality.

OK...

Does Iran have/did it have nuke weapons?


The "evidence"

1. no detection ever of an Iran nuke test
2. no radiation leaks, even after the US strike 6 months ago
3. For 30 years, we have heard "Iran can't have a nuke" from Zionist Fascists
4. For 30 years, Zionist Fascists from Dianne Feinstein to Huckabee to Ratcliffe have pushed for a "pre-emptive" war on Iran to prevent them from having nukes
5. Nuke is 80+ year old tech
6. Iran does have yellowcake, soviet built nuclear power and enrichment facilities, the Russians say they can't make weapons grade


So those who have been claiming for 3 decades that iran was just about to have a nuke weapon don't have anything at all to show for those accusations. They were the SAME people who pushed us into war with Iraq over the same allegations that proved to be 100% deliberate intentional lies the W Administration knew were lies when they used them.



That's the reality the American people know to be true.

Zionist Fascism lies America into wars that have no US national interest, and only serve Israel.

70-30 in the polls

traitor, you can SUCK IT!!!

 

[EMH]

Oh, so the President lied and the nuke program wasn't destroyed? Rubio lied and they actually were still enriching? They were at 60%, which is a long way from the 85% to 90% necessary, and if we were not lied to, and the facilities were actually destroyed, the possibility was an is, a long way off. Certainly not possible year or two.

See above post

 

[EMH]

Oh, so the President lied and the nuke program wasn't destroyed? Rubio lied and they actually were still enriching? They were at 60%, which is a long way from the 85% to 90% necessary, and if we were not lied to, and the facilities were actually destroyed, the possibility was an is, a long way off. Certainly not possible year or two.

You and Rubio and all the rest deliberately mislead Americans on this issue.

Iran's "nuke facilities" are power plants.


We're still waiting for a shred of actual evidence they were making a bomb.... because we have ZERO EVIDENCE of that now, ZERO,

 

[BackAgain]

OK...

Does Iran have/did it have nuke weapons?


The "evidence"

1. no detection ever of an Iran nuke test
2. no radiation leaks, even after the US strike 6 months ago
3. For 30 years, we have heard "Iran can't have a nuke" from Zionist Fascists
4. For 30 years, Zionist Fascists from Dianne Feinstein to Huckabee to Ratcliffe have pushed for a "pre-emptive" war on Iran to prevent them from having nukes
5. Nuke is 80+ year old tech
6. Iran does have yellowcake, soviet built nuclear power and enrichment facilities, the Russians say they can't make weapons grade


So those who have been claiming for 3 decades that iran was just about to have a nuke weapon don't have anything at all to show for those accusations. They were the SAME people who pushed us into war with Iraq over the same allegations that proved to be 100% deliberate intentional lies the W Administration knew were lies when they used them.



That's the reality the American people know to be true.

Zionist Fascism lies America into wars that have no US national interest, and only serve Israel.

70-30 in the polls

traitor, you can SUCK IT!!!

Asshole, you answer your own irrelevant question as though it somehow supports your moronic claim.

It doesn’t.

Nobody has said that Iran has nuclear weapons at present.

The concern — which eludes your tragically weak mind — is all about what they are believed to have been on the cusp of achieving.

When I’ve asked others, they all run off. Maybe you’ll surprise everyone by answering the same question. Maybe.

Question: what possible reason (not including the creation of nuclear weapons) did Iran have for enriching uranium to the 60% level?

 

[EMH]

is all about what they are believed to have been on the cusp of achieving

Noise we have heard for 3+ decades from the same traitors who lied us into Iraq.

what possible reason (not including the creation of nuclear weapons) did Iran have for enriching uranium to the 60% level?

These type of claims are just tossed out there. The Fox News self proclaimed sub humans jump on the floor and lick every bit of that bull every time it is tossed out there. The rest of America does not. That is your problem now....

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

That's what the UN says...

U.N. Atomic Agency Contradicts Iran, Says No Nuclear Sites Hit in U.S. Campaign

The IAEA chief said there is no evidence that the U.S. struck Iranian nuclear sites this weekend during "Operation Epic Fury."

www.breitbart.com

"U.N. Atomic Agency Contradicts Iran, Says No Nuclear Sites Hit in U.S. Campaign

6:36
The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), an arm of the United Nations, stated on Monday that there is no evidence of elevated radiation levels in Iran or that its illicit nuclear enrichment sites were attacked during America’s “Operation Epic Fury.”



911
107
"WMD" in Iraq
now "iran nukes"


How many times will the American people allow traitors to lie us into wars to help Israel?

WMD! WMD!

 

[CowboyTed]

I remember Dubya's crew providing testimony and charts and graphs and the rest.

Colin Powell -- professional, experienced, accomplished, dignified, articulate, credible -- was at least respectable in his presentation. Clearly he was given bad info.

Of course, that was back when we held Presidents and their people to some kind of standard.

Read a book about it...

Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq

Tom Ricks is a military man reporter.... Powell was brought into a room and fed lie after lie... They knew the world wouldn't believe an NeoCon but Powell was the respectable one...

Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell expressed deep regret and apologized for his 2003 UN speech justifying the Iraq War based on faulty intelligence regarding weapons of mass destruction (WMD). He famously described his presentation as a "blot" on his record, citing it as a "great intelligence failure"
He knew it was wrong and least had the honour to own up to his own mistakes.

This Iran war doesn't even have that... It is a far bigger and more powerful country. They had a 86 yr old leader, do ye think they didn't have a line of succession?

The big worry is if Iran starts setting off bombs on US soil... What would there response be? Bombing more Iranians will not solve the problem then...

Trump painted the bombing of Iran as a solution, but he hasn't defined the problem or really the solution...

 

[CowboyTed]

Oh, so the President lied and the nuke program wasn't destroyed? Rubio lied and they actually were still enriching? They were at 60%, which is a long way from the 85% to 90% necessary, and if we were not lied to, and the facilities were actually destroyed, the possibility was an is, a long way off. Certainly not possible year or two.

The UN deal backed by Obama was working.

In MAGA world, anything Obama did must be wrong even if the rest of the world agreed and was backing it.

Iran actually wanted to return to normal status but wanted Isreal to remove itself from West Bank, Isreal was saying no way.

There was a solution there... But this would mean Bibi couldn't use his 'evil' neighbours routine at home...

Iran were never going to be a democracy like seen it...

So Trump ripped up the UN deal and Iran hardliners won more power internally...

This has been Trump MO of foreign relations with almost everything, don't understand it, not willing to learn it and blow shit up figuratively and now physically...

 

[BackAgain]

Noise we have heard for 3+ decades from the same traitors who lied us into Iraq.

Repeating that crap is silly reliance on shitlib talking “points.” And no. We haven’t heard it for 30 years.

Try to follow along — you unmitigated anti American scumbag. Iran itself announced in April of 2021 would seek to enrich uranium to 60%.

A few days later they announced that they had achieved 60% enhancement.

https://english.alarabiya.net/business/energy/2021/04/16/Iran-has-successfully-enriched-60-percent-uranium-Parliament-speaker

These type of claims are just tossed out there. The Fox News self proclaimed sub humans jump on the floor and lick every bit of that bull every time it is tossed out there. The rest of America does not. That is your problem now....

You’re such a fraud.

Tell us what legitimate purpose they had then or now to enhance uranium to 60%, where that purpose is anything other than for purposes of creating nuclear weapons.

It’s ok. We all already know you won’t. You can’t.

 

[White 6]

See above post

Yep. Some republicans will fall for anything. I don't think the American public is buying the reasoning behind this attack at this time, no matter how many different lame reasons various people in the administration try to feed the new cycle.

 

[White 6]

You and Rubio and all the rest deliberately mislead Americans on this issue.

Iran's "nuke facilities" are power plants.


We're still waiting for a shred of actual evidence they were making a bomb.... because we have ZERO EVIDENCE of that now, ZERO,

Me and Rubio? Rubio maybe. After all, he is a mouthpiece for the administration.
Me? Nope. I have not spoke to the American people for the Trump administration, or even posted support. I think they should be run out of Washington, on a rail, but Congress will not act.

 

[Delldude]

Oh, so the President lied and the nuke program wasn't destroyed? Rubio lied and they actually were still enriching? They were at 60%, which is a long way from the 85% to 90% necessary, and if we were not lied to, and the facilities were actually destroyed, the possibility was an is, a long way off. Certainly not possible year or two.

60% enrichment is a hop skip and a jump to 90%, like a few days. And you can make a bomb at 60% but it goes boom much better at 90%.

According to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iran has enriched large quantities of uranium to 60%. It’s actually easier to go from an enrichment of 60% to 90% than it is to get to that initial 60%. That’s because there’s less and less uranium-238 to get rid of.