'Those Who Refuse To Learn From History, Who Reject History, Are Doomed To Repeat It'...

[NYcarbineer]

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Morons like NYC actually believe that the South 'fought to keep their white supremacy' because owning blacks was what it was all about, owning slaves to wait on them hand and foot, to sever them Mint Juleps on the porch....

He has no clue of the economic significance, that slaves to work the plantation was the backbone of growing, harvesting, and providing the resources the North 's manufacturing depended on.

He has no clue that there were also WHITE slaves / indentured servants...

That not everyone who fought for the Confederacy owned slaves or even wanted to own slaves.

White supremacy was the key to there being blacks in slavery in the first place.

 

[easyt65]

White supremacy was the key to there being blacks in slavery in the first place.

Causes Of The Civil War | History Detectives | PBS

"A common explanation is that the Civil War was fought over the moral issue of slavery. In fact, it was the economics of slavery and political control of that system that was central to the conflict."

Slaves were needed to work the plantations and were the economic backbone of slavery.

"A key issue was states' rights.

The Southern states wanted to assert their authority over the federal government so they could abolish federal laws they didn't support, especially laws interfering with the South's right to keep slaves and take them wherever they wished.

Another factor was territorial expansion.

The South wished to take slavery into the western territories, while the North was committed to keeping them open to white labor alone.

Meanwhile, the newly formed Republican party, whose members were strongly opposed to the westward expansion of slavery into new states, was gaining prominence."


For being a 'widely reported' and very primary reason for the Civil War, I failed to find any SERIOUS source that claimed the Civil War was all about maintaining 'white supremacy'



Bwuhahahaha...you're an idiot.

 

[Eaglewings]

...OR 'Book Burners, Holocaust Deniers, ... and Confederate Flag / Statue Would-Be Destroyers, Oh My!'

In the wake of the carnage from this past weekend's violence, the call to destroy anything and everything referencing the 'Confederacy' has grown stronger than before this happened ... and those who seek to further divide this nation continue to use this issue to do so.

Here are some thoughts on the 'war' being waged over statues and flags....


1. Racism and hatred do not reside in statues and flags. Racism and hatred reside in the HEARTS and MINDS of individuals who seek to justify their acts of senseless violence, racism, and hatred by blaming a statue, flag, or anything else they claim 'offends them'.

2. A person claiming to be offended by something, like a statue or a flag, is NOT justification for them destroying or eliminating whatever it is they claim offends them.
- In this country Americans have many RIGHTS. The 'Right' NOT to be offended is NOT one of those Constitutional Rights. The 'RIGHT' to riot, loot, burn, destroy property, injure / kill people, and strip others of their ACTUAL Rights because of some perceived offense is NOT one of those ACTUAL Rights.

3. Do those who have hate in their hearts for those they claim have hate in their hearts really believe tearing down statues and burning flags is really going to change the past or change what is in someone else's heart?

4. Monuments honoring confederate soldiers are not 'memorials to slavery'.
- Statues honoring Robert E. Lee, for example, honor one of this nation's greatest generals. Robert E. Lee was the top of his class, a better leader, tactician, and general than others in his class, those like Sherman. The northern army tried to convince Lee to fight for them, but he would not. Lee did not fight for slavery - he fought for his home / home state of Virginia. Idiots, however, neither know that or care because 'Racism' is all they know and care about.

5. If the idiots who want to destroy any and all references to the Confederacy because those who fought in the Civil War represented nothing but SLAVERY (Yes, you idiots - EVERY Confederate soldier was a wealthy plantation owner who was protecting their right to own slaves ), then Americans should be calling for the destruction of the Jefferson Memorial and the Washington Memorial, as both were slave owners.

6. (Follow-up to #5)...and it is never-ending...the American flag should immediately be destroyed because it flew over ships that carried slaves, flew over cavalries who slaughtered Native American men / women / children in the name of 'Manifest Destiny', flew over Japanese Internment camps, etc...

7. Americans (and others) have condemned Germany for at one time attempting to re-write the history books and eliminate any reference to the Holocaust...because it was a shameful time in their history....

....but what the idiots who sought / seek to do so do not understand is that 'Those who refuse to remember / learn from the past are doomed to repeat it'! Monuments and references to the Holocaust, to the Japanese internment camps, to the Trail of Tears, to the Civil War are not CELEBRATIONS of those horrific periods in our history but are there to serve as a reminder...a WARNING...to us and future generations of what can happen when we allow hatred and racism and greed, and evil to guide our hand...to remind us to NEVER allow such atrocities to happen again.

8. Are we really going to begin destroying / eliminating everything that might offend someone in this country, putting dire limits on our Constitutional Rights of Free Speech and Expression?

I whole-heartedly condemn the horrific UN-AMERICAN acts of this past weekend, because THIS is not who we are as a country or as Americans...but we are also not about giving in to the opposite side of that 'hate coin', not about 'Political Correctness' not about stripping Constitutional Rights, not about attempting to eliminate references to our past we do not like....that might offend someone.

We have already been told in this country that WE CAN NOT SHOW VIDEO footage / IMAGES OF 9/11/01 BECAUSE IT MIGHT OFFEND SOMEONE / PEOPLE AND FOSTER FEELINGS OF OUTRAGE.

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME - GOVT CENSORSHIP OF THE WORST ATTACK ON THE US, AS ATTACK THAT KILLED 3,000 AMERCIANS, IN THE NAME OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS?

We should be outraged...and we SHOULD remember...the lives of those taken from us by a horrific terrorist attack...so we will remain vigilant and never allow this to happen again.

More than anything, however, I wish Americans would remember how we all came together immediately after that attack...and reject the voices and influence of HATE that now seek to divide this nation and destroy her from within.


Councilman formally calls for Baltimore's Confederate monuments to be destroyed

Good Morning....Easy, Easy, Easy ,

Sorry but it is not being used as love by these people


This is what Hate Looks Like ...My father fought in WWII against Hitler. So this Dumb Ass Girl holding her Dumb Ass arm straight out, and the other dumb ass people can have free speech..

but He sure didn't fight, watching his friends blown up, fight a horrible war for this flag to be used like this.

This is what Historical Non Violence Looks Like..

A respectful memorable march

.

 

[easyt65]

...OR 'Book Burners, Holocaust Deniers, ... and Confederate Flag / Statue Would-Be Destroyers, Oh My!'

In the wake of the carnage from this past weekend's violence, the call to destroy anything and everything referencing the 'Confederacy' has grown stronger than before this happened ... and those who seek to further divide this nation continue to use this issue to do so.

Here are some thoughts on the 'war' being waged over statues and flags....


1. Racism and hatred do not reside in statues and flags. Racism and hatred reside in the HEARTS and MINDS of individuals who seek to justify their acts of senseless violence, racism, and hatred by blaming a statue, flag, or anything else they claim 'offends them'.

2. A person claiming to be offended by something, like a statue or a flag, is NOT justification for them destroying or eliminating whatever it is they claim offends them.
- In this country Americans have many RIGHTS. The 'Right' NOT to be offended is NOT one of those Constitutional Rights. The 'RIGHT' to riot, loot, burn, destroy property, injure / kill people, and strip others of their ACTUAL Rights because of some perceived offense is NOT one of those ACTUAL Rights.

3. Do those who have hate in their hearts for those they claim have hate in their hearts really believe tearing down statues and burning flags is really going to change the past or change what is in someone else's heart?

4. Monuments honoring confederate soldiers are not 'memorials to slavery'.
- Statues honoring Robert E. Lee, for example, honor one of this nation's greatest generals. Robert E. Lee was the top of his class, a better leader, tactician, and general than others in his class, those like Sherman. The northern army tried to convince Lee to fight for them, but he would not. Lee did not fight for slavery - he fought for his home / home state of Virginia. Idiots, however, neither know that or care because 'Racism' is all they know and care about.

5. If the idiots who want to destroy any and all references to the Confederacy because those who fought in the Civil War represented nothing but SLAVERY (Yes, you idiots - EVERY Confederate soldier was a wealthy plantation owner who was protecting their right to own slaves ), then Americans should be calling for the destruction of the Jefferson Memorial and the Washington Memorial, as both were slave owners.

6. (Follow-up to #5)...and it is never-ending...the American flag should immediately be destroyed because it flew over ships that carried slaves, flew over cavalries who slaughtered Native American men / women / children in the name of 'Manifest Destiny', flew over Japanese Internment camps, etc...

7. Americans (and others) have condemned Germany for at one time attempting to re-write the history books and eliminate any reference to the Holocaust...because it was a shameful time in their history....

....but what the idiots who sought / seek to do so do not understand is that 'Those who refuse to remember / learn from the past are doomed to repeat it'! Monuments and references to the Holocaust, to the Japanese internment camps, to the Trail of Tears, to the Civil War are not CELEBRATIONS of those horrific periods in our history but are there to serve as a reminder...a WARNING...to us and future generations of what can happen when we allow hatred and racism and greed, and evil to guide our hand...to remind us to NEVER allow such atrocities to happen again.

8. Are we really going to begin destroying / eliminating everything that might offend someone in this country, putting dire limits on our Constitutional Rights of Free Speech and Expression?

I whole-heartedly condemn the horrific UN-AMERICAN acts of this past weekend, because THIS is not who we are as a country or as Americans...but we are also not about giving in to the opposite side of that 'hate coin', not about 'Political Correctness' not about stripping Constitutional Rights, not about attempting to eliminate references to our past we do not like....that might offend someone.

We have already been told in this country that WE CAN NOT SHOW VIDEO footage / IMAGES OF 9/11/01 BECAUSE IT MIGHT OFFEND SOMEONE / PEOPLE AND FOSTER FEELINGS OF OUTRAGE.

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME - GOVT CENSORSHIP OF THE WORST ATTACK ON THE US, AS ATTACK THAT KILLED 3,000 AMERCIANS, IN THE NAME OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS?

We should be outraged...and we SHOULD remember...the lives of those taken from us by a horrific terrorist attack...so we will remain vigilant and never allow this to happen again.

More than anything, however, I wish Americans would remember how we all came together immediately after that attack...and reject the voices and influence of HATE that now seek to divide this nation and destroy her from within.


Councilman formally calls for Baltimore's Confederate monuments to be destroyed

Good Morning....Easy, Easy, Easy ,

Sorry but it is not being used as love by these people


This is what Hate Looks Like ...My father fought in WWII against Hitler. So this Dumb Ass Girl holding her Dumb Ass arm straight out, and people can have free speech..

but He sure didn't fight, see his friends blown up, and fight a horrible war for this flag to be used like this.



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This is what Historical Non Violence Looks Like..

A respectful memorable march

I agree with you...THAT is what hate looks like..... NOT THIS:



BTW, THIS is also 'Hate':



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[Eaglewings]

...OR 'Book Burners, Holocaust Deniers, ... and Confederate Flag / Statue Would-Be Destroyers, Oh My!'

In the wake of the carnage from this past weekend's violence, the call to destroy anything and everything referencing the 'Confederacy' has grown stronger than before this happened ... and those who seek to further divide this nation continue to use this issue to do so.

Here are some thoughts on the 'war' being waged over statues and flags....


1. Racism and hatred do not reside in statues and flags. Racism and hatred reside in the HEARTS and MINDS of individuals who seek to justify their acts of senseless violence, racism, and hatred by blaming a statue, flag, or anything else they claim 'offends them'.

2. A person claiming to be offended by something, like a statue or a flag, is NOT justification for them destroying or eliminating whatever it is they claim offends them.
- In this country Americans have many RIGHTS. The 'Right' NOT to be offended is NOT one of those Constitutional Rights. The 'RIGHT' to riot, loot, burn, destroy property, injure / kill people, and strip others of their ACTUAL Rights because of some perceived offense is NOT one of those ACTUAL Rights.

3. Do those who have hate in their hearts for those they claim have hate in their hearts really believe tearing down statues and burning flags is really going to change the past or change what is in someone else's heart?

4. Monuments honoring confederate soldiers are not 'memorials to slavery'.
- Statues honoring Robert E. Lee, for example, honor one of this nation's greatest generals. Robert E. Lee was the top of his class, a better leader, tactician, and general than others in his class, those like Sherman. The northern army tried to convince Lee to fight for them, but he would not. Lee did not fight for slavery - he fought for his home / home state of Virginia. Idiots, however, neither know that or care because 'Racism' is all they know and care about.

5. If the idiots who want to destroy any and all references to the Confederacy because those who fought in the Civil War represented nothing but SLAVERY (Yes, you idiots - EVERY Confederate soldier was a wealthy plantation owner who was protecting their right to own slaves ), then Americans should be calling for the destruction of the Jefferson Memorial and the Washington Memorial, as both were slave owners.

6. (Follow-up to #5)...and it is never-ending...the American flag should immediately be destroyed because it flew over ships that carried slaves, flew over cavalries who slaughtered Native American men / women / children in the name of 'Manifest Destiny', flew over Japanese Internment camps, etc...

7. Americans (and others) have condemned Germany for at one time attempting to re-write the history books and eliminate any reference to the Holocaust...because it was a shameful time in their history....

....but what the idiots who sought / seek to do so do not understand is that 'Those who refuse to remember / learn from the past are doomed to repeat it'! Monuments and references to the Holocaust, to the Japanese internment camps, to the Trail of Tears, to the Civil War are not CELEBRATIONS of those horrific periods in our history but are there to serve as a reminder...a WARNING...to us and future generations of what can happen when we allow hatred and racism and greed, and evil to guide our hand...to remind us to NEVER allow such atrocities to happen again.

8. Are we really going to begin destroying / eliminating everything that might offend someone in this country, putting dire limits on our Constitutional Rights of Free Speech and Expression?

I whole-heartedly condemn the horrific UN-AMERICAN acts of this past weekend, because THIS is not who we are as a country or as Americans...but we are also not about giving in to the opposite side of that 'hate coin', not about 'Political Correctness' not about stripping Constitutional Rights, not about attempting to eliminate references to our past we do not like....that might offend someone.

We have already been told in this country that WE CAN NOT SHOW VIDEO footage / IMAGES OF 9/11/01 BECAUSE IT MIGHT OFFEND SOMEONE / PEOPLE AND FOSTER FEELINGS OF OUTRAGE.

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME - GOVT CENSORSHIP OF THE WORST ATTACK ON THE US, AS ATTACK THAT KILLED 3,000 AMERCIANS, IN THE NAME OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS?

We should be outraged...and we SHOULD remember...the lives of those taken from us by a horrific terrorist attack...so we will remain vigilant and never allow this to happen again.

More than anything, however, I wish Americans would remember how we all came together immediately after that attack...and reject the voices and influence of HATE that now seek to divide this nation and destroy her from within.


Councilman formally calls for Baltimore's Confederate monuments to be destroyed

Good Morning....Easy, Easy, Easy ,

Sorry but it is not being used as love by these people


This is what Hate Looks Like ...My father fought in WWII against Hitler. So this Dumb Ass Girl holding her Dumb Ass arm straight out, and people can have free speech..

but He sure didn't fight, see his friends blown up, and fight a horrible war for this flag to be used like this.



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This is what Historical Non Violence Looks Like..

A respectful memorable march

I agree with you...THAT is what hate looks like..... NOT THIS:

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BTW, THIS is also 'Hate':





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The Black Lifes Matter sign is Free Speech, even though I feel All Life's Matter.... But yes the other pictures are showing hate and stupidity..

Historically the white sheet, and Nazi symbols are hate, murder and torture...



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[IsaacNewton]

Cons are pulling out all the stops to lie and obfuscate on removing the statues of traitors left over from the civil war.

Derps all these 'quotes' and 'appeals to authority' have no connection to your dear leaders of the traitors to the United States. Your over-the-top attempts at connecting quotes to these despicable men via a laundry list of fallacies is just braindead. Strawmen, Red Herrings, False Equivalencies. All these fake 'arguments' are in a bin that conservatives regularly go to to try to defend abject ignorance but recently they are using these fallacies as bacon bits to be sprinkled in large quantities on their inane opinions.