Those of you who oppose Trumps solution to the Iran problem post your solutions here

[g5000]

It was working to allow the Islamic Terrorist Regime to get nuclear weapons, and eventually drop a nuke on Israel.

The Iran Nuclear Deal: What's Wrong With It And What Can We Do Now?

The Iran nuclear deal, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), was reached on July 14, 2015 by the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Russia, China, the European Union (EU), and Iran.

www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com

From your link"

• The deal provides Iran a clear pathway to nuclear weapons as restrictions on its uranium- enrichment and plutonium-processing capacities end (‘sunset’) between 2026 and 2031

So you negotiate a new agreement when the original sunsets.

Duh!



Two Years On, the Iran Deal is Working


Iran had turned over all their enriched uranium to Russia and plugged their Arak reactor which was used for their nuclear weapons program.

Iran ships uranium to Russia, fulfilling a key provision of nuclear deal​

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Iran 'fills Arak nuclear reactor core with concrete'​

Under the terms of the deal, Iran agreed the heavy-water reactor would be reconfigured so it was not capable of yielding material for a nuclear weapon.

The removal of the core is one of the final steps required by the deal.




When Trump idiotically reneged on the JCPOA, Iran announced they were resuming their nuclear weapons program with a vengeance.

Trump de-certifies Iran nuclear deal​

What Are Iran’s Nuclear and Missile Capabilities?​

Iran’s nuclear program has since been the subject of intense international debate and diplomacy, which culminated in a 2015 nuclear agreement.

The United States unilaterally withdrew from that agreement in 2018; since then, international monitors say that Iran has greatly expanded its nuclear activities, again heightening concerns about its “breaking out” to develop a nuclear weapon.





And here we are.

Trump is a retard. His entire motive behind tearing up the JCPOA is "because Obama".

He is a stupid, vindictive moron.




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[BS Filter]

That won't happen unless boots are on the ground, which this administrations' supporters keep telling me won't happen.

If it does, it will making the Iranian and

That won't happen unless boots are on the ground, which this administrations' supporters keep telling me won't happen.

If it does, it will making the Iranian and Afghani quagmires look like a picnic and possibly spell the end to the American experiment.

Not buying it. The Iranian people are not near as barbaric and idiotic as the Afghan and tribes of Iraq.

 

[OldFlame]

I never claimed it was.

You have a nasty habit of constructing straw-men and then claiming victory when you know them down.

If I constructed a straw man then so did you.

 

[HaShev]

The JCPOA was working, dipshit.

Trump tore it up, and Iran announced he had given them permission to resume their nuclear weapons program. Which they did.

And here we are.

Trump is a retard. He thinks being a game show host somehow translates to being a statesman.

no it wasn't and the dems admitted that when they claimed Trumps strike did not destroy their program which existed before Trump tore up that terrible deal, whereby Iran was still enriching Uranium and building their nuke program and missles that were underground and un-watched during the Biden era, who was that Dem hired or appointed guy arrested helping Iran?

 

[Oddball]

I don't believe that's going to be allowed to happen. Politicians aren't running this show.

When haven't they said that?

 

[Oddball]

"IDF JUST WIPED OUT THE ENTIRE SUCCESSION OF SUPREME LEADERS Most members of the 88 seat council of religious experts were inside the building voting in the next leader when Israel struck."

Does nothing to answer my question.

What follows has been worse...



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[MisterBeale]

The Iranian people are not near as barbaric and idiotic as the Afghan and tribes of Iraq.

That is your opinion.


The multitudes that come out to mourn the passing of the Supreme leader I have seen with my own eyes in photos and videos, compared the couple score Iranians, mostly here in the west, give me more reason to believe you are hopelessly deluded.

 

[Oddball]

While that's true, it doesn't fix ary a damn thing in this day and age.
The goal is to fix things, not do what the CIA did in 1953.
The 1st in a long list of regime change failures.

When was the last first time the "fix" really fixed things?

 

[MisterBeale]

If I constructed a straw man then so did you.

Oh yeah? Please, tell me what argument I have claimed you are making that you never did. . . in fact, please quote it for me.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yeah...Except that the people lined up behind Khameni as replacements are even more loony than he was.

Can you name the last first time one of these dudes was overthrown, and the one that followed wasn't even worse?

No one is more loony than Khamenei but whatever they are if we do a thorough job of destroying their military and their military factories and killing off their leaders, they will no longer be a threat to the rest of the world.

 

[Oddball]

No one is more loony than Khamenei but whatever they are if we do a thorough job of destroying their military and their military factories and killing off their leaders, they will no longer be a threat to the rest of the world.

mmmmmmmmmmkaaaayyyy....

CIA: Khamenei Replacement Will Likely Be More Hardline<!-- --> | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[toomuchtime_]

When was the last first time the "fix" really fixed things?

The goal is not to fix Iran, but to destroy the capabilities of the present regime and give the Iranian people an opportunity to fix their own country.

 

[MisterBeale]

The goal is not to fix Iran, but to destroy the capabilities of the present regime and give the Iranian people an opportunity to fix their own country.

And the only way those goals can be achieved is by putting boots on the ground.

 

[toomuchtime_]

mmmmmmmmmmkaaaayyyy....

CIA: Khamenei Replacement Will Likely Be More Hardline<!-- --> | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

But if we destroy their military capabilities, what will they do? Throw rocks at us?

 

[drudge X]

Your words to gods ears.

. . . and here I thought folks like you weren't smart enough to figure this out.

You guys claimed to be foreign policy experts since the strike started. Well actually, you guys believe your foreign policy skills are better than the Trump administration. Let’s hear it.

 

[drudge X]

And the only way those goals can be achieved is by putting boots on the ground.

Why? There are enough Iranians wanting change. Let them decide.

 

[Lockback]

Why? There are enough Iranians wanting change. Let them decide.

Hopefully, we've armed a whole lotta citizens. An AK or AR in their hands does a whole lotta convincin'.

 

[toomuchtime_]

And the only way those goals can be achieved is by putting boots on the ground.

If the goal were nation building that might be true, but the goal is to destroy the capabilities of the present regime so that the Iranian people can fix their own country. How is the regime going to send troops to quell protests when Israeli and US planes are attacking those troops?

 

[MisterBeale]

There are enough Iranians wanting change.

Perhaps, if there weren't for far more of them who will be focused on keeping their society & government going while defending against an unprovoked attack.

Shit. . . I can't help you. Intelligent folks got that lesson from Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. already.

You can't kill people and then expect them to be your friend.

 

[OldFlame]

Oh yeah? Please, tell me what argument I have claimed you are making that you never did. . . in fact, please quote it for me.

The fact is, there is NO CHANCE that classic enlightenment liberalism will take root in Iran now, this operation has pushed them further from it.

And allowing them to develop nuclear weapons was going to lead to 'classic enlightenment liberalism' taking root?

I never claimed it was.

I didn't say that you made any claim, I asked you a question. You chose to deflect by accusing me of creating a 'straw man' because you all you ever rebut with insults when you can't or don't want to address what I said or asked.