Those of you who oppose Trumps solution to the Iran problem post your solutions here

[Oddball]

But if we destroy their military capabilities, what will they do? Throw rocks at us?

Their military capabilities are far deeper than you're being told.

The Persians aren't pushovers like Venezuela.

 

[Oddball]

The goal is not to fix Iran, but to destroy the capabilities of the present regime and give the Iranian people an opportunity to fix their own country.

Yeah, that worked out great in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya...

Oh wait.....

 

[OldFlame]

You guys claimed to be foreign policy experts since the strike started. Well actually, you guys believe your foreign policy skills are better than the Trump administration. Let’s hear it.

They actually have no foreign policy, they want Trump to say '**** you' to the rest of the world, and pretend like we are an island and don't need anyone else.

 

[drudge X]

Perhaps, if there weren't for far more of them who will be focused on keeping their society & government going while defending against an unprovoked attack.

Shit. . . I can't help you. Intelligent folks got that lesson from Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. already.

You can't kill people and then expect them to be your friend.

You have no clue how many Iranians want the hardliners gone and neither do I. You are making assumptions. Trump has three years left. If they want to FAFO, Trump will simply bomb them again. You should pray that Iran plays along with the West and other gulf states. If not, Trump may time the bombing before election to cancel the election. Trump is going for a hat trick and only Cuba can prevent him from getting one and that is ditching China for closer relations with the US.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yeah, that worked out great in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya...

Oh wait.....

Actually, it did. These countries are no longer a threat to the US or its allies.

 

[Oddball]

Actually, it did. These countries are no longer a threat to the US or its allies.

They never were in the first place....That's the point.

 

[MisterBeale]

I didn't say that you made any claim, I asked you a question. You chose to deflect by accusing me of creating a 'straw man' because you all you ever rebut with insults when you can't or don't want to address what I said or asked.

Fair enough. I made the assumption that you thought that was my position.

My bad, I apologize. But if that is not what you are implying, what the hell does that question have to do with this topic?

i.e.

Now what is your solution

The solution to Iran attacking us, our allies, and military assets in area after we attacked them?

Seems like an insane question TBH.

 

[drudge X]

They actually have no foreign policy, they want Trump to say '**** you' to the rest of the world, and pretend like we are an island and don't need anyone else.

Let’s see, after decades of failure to get China to play fair by four presidents, you want to allow China to trade as they pleased with the US. Have you seen the trade deficit with China recently?

After four presidents failed to convinced NATO members to pay for their defense, you think Trump should continue talking to them in a nice way.

After Biden allowed 15 million illegal aliens into the country unvetted awhile giving them 5 star all inclusive hotel stay for months while American are struggling to pay for basic necessities, you and the Democrats said nothing.

Tell me why Trump should continue to play nice?

 

[OldFlame]

Let’s see, after decades of failure to get China to play fair by four presidents, you want to allow China to trade as they pleased with the US. Have you seen the trade deficit with China recently?

After four presidents failed to convinced NATO members to pay for their defense, you think Trump should continue talking to them in a nice way.

After Biden allowed 15 million illegal aliens into the country unvetted awhile giving them 5 star all inclusive hotel stay for months while American are struggling to pay for basic necessities, you and the Democrats said nothing.

Tell me why Trump should continue to play nice?

I agree with you, I'm just telling you what the TDS posters in this thread want.

 

[toomuchtime_]

They never were in the first place....That's the point.

Of course they were. The 911 attack was planned in Afghanistan and Saddam's Iraq tried to capture and control the whole of ME oil production.

 

[OldFlame]

Fair enough. I made the assumption that you thought that was my position.

My bad, I apologize. But if that is not what you are implying, what the hell does that question have to do with this topic?

The question was a direct response to what you said, what do you mean what does it have to do with the topic? lol

 

[toomuchtime_]

Fair enough. I made the assumption that you thought that was my position.

My bad, I apologize. But if that is not what you are implying, what the hell does that question have to do with this topic?

i.e.



The solution to Iran attacking us, our allies, and military assets in area after we attacked them?

Seems like an insane question TBH.

When we destroy their military capabilities, how are they going to attack us?

 

[MisterBeale]

You are making assumptions. Trump has three years left. If they want to FAFO, Trump will simply bomb them again.

From my POV, your assumptions are based on far more ignorant assumptions than mine are.

Blowback: Understanding Consequences of Foreign Policy Decisions - Defense Direct

The term “Blowback” refers to the unintended consequences of a nation’s foreign policies, particularly those of the United States. This concept, popularized by Chalmers Johnson in his book “Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire,” reveals how covert actions can lead to negative...

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The Perils of Blowback

If policymakers do not account for it, their failures will ultimately be borne by the average American and our men and women in uniform.

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[Oddball]

Of course they were. The 911 attack was planned in Afghanistan and Saddam's Iraq tried to capture and control the whole of ME oil production.

 

[Oddball]

From my POV, your assumptions are based on far more ignorant assumptions than mine are.

Blowback: Understanding Consequences of Foreign Policy Decisions - Defense Direct

The term “Blowback” refers to the unintended consequences of a nation’s foreign policies, particularly those of the United States. This concept, popularized by Chalmers Johnson in his book “Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire,” reveals how covert actions can lead to negative...

defense.direct

The Perils of Blowback

If policymakers do not account for it, their failures will ultimately be borne by the average American and our men and women in uniform.

americanmind.org

It's 2002 all over again.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Of course they were. The 911 attack was planned in Afghanistan and Saddam's Iraq tried to capture and control the whole of ME oil production.

W
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Are you taking your meds?

 

[toomuchtime_]

W
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Are you taking your meds?

In other words you've got nothing.

 

[BS Filter]

When haven't they said that?

Someone suggested the Crown Prince take over. President Trump said let the people choose.

 

[BS Filter]

That is your opinion.


The multitudes that come out to mourn the passing of the Supreme leader I have seen with my own eyes in photos and videos, compared the couple score Iranians, mostly here in the west, give me more reason to believe you are hopelessly deluded.

I'm an optimist. I believe that the vast majority of Iranians are happy with eliminating the gangsters responsible for murdering 32,000 Iranian citizens in the last few months. Why would they want more of that shit?

 

[buttercup]

Someone suggested the Crown Prince take over. President Trump said let the people choose.

I heard that too, but by "someone" I think you meant the CIA/ Mossad. This guy is one of their candidates for leader of the Iranian people.

Reza Pahlavi