Thomas Massie, the only one!

Right now it's big business working on overdrive stocking shelves and stepping up to do what they can be it making protective gear or hand sanitizers or offering to cover people's copays for COVID-19 treatment.
Words fail me. Stuck trying to picture a big business stocking a shelf..? Covering "people's copays"?
 
He may be right but so many of the people desperately need that money and hoping congress will do the right this doesn't feed your children or grandparents
So in your mind, the criminal federal government can only offer this extremely harmful stimulus bill or offer nothing. Fuck that.

The government is forcing businesses to close resulting in many people losing their source of income. So either the government can offer a lifeline for Wall Street or the government can become the source of income for all the people who have lost and will continue to loss work...take your pick.
Do you think this new stimulus bill
What's the alternative? Massie surely doesn't have one. It seems that he already backed off on his crude attempt at political posturing.
So you think there are no alternatives.

There are always alternative, the thing is do those alternative hold up to the reality we face having a divided government?
I'm willing to read Massie proposed alternative if you want to post it.
You entire premise is wrong. We don’t have a divided government. That’s pure propaganda. Both parties are one when it comes to enriching the rich, which is exactly what this stimulus bill is.

I'm not dismissing the point you are trying to make. I'm just asking for what alternative solution Massie proposes. Right now it's big business working on overdrive stocking shelves and stepping up to do what they can be it making protective gear or hand sanitizers or offering to cover people's copays for COVID-19 treatment.

FTR my opinion can be changed so I'm looking forward to reading Massie's proposal. Thanks in advance.
It’s really very simple. Bail out the people and limit bailouts for big corporations.
 
He may be right but so many of the people desperately need that money and hoping congress will do the right this doesn't feed your children or grandparents
So in your mind, the criminal federal government can only offer this extremely harmful stimulus bill or offer nothing. Fuck that.

The government is forcing businesses to close resulting in many people losing their source of income. So either the government can offer a lifeline for Wall Street or the government can become the source of income for all the people who have lost and will continue to loss work...take your pick.
Do you think this new stimulus bill
What's the alternative? Massie surely doesn't have one. It seems that he already backed off on his crude attempt at political posturing.
So you think there are no alternatives.

There are always alternative, the thing is do those alternative hold up to the reality we face having a divided government?
I'm willing to read Massie proposed alternative if you want to post it.
You entire premise is wrong. We don’t have a divided government. That’s pure propaganda. Both parties are one when it comes to enriching the rich, which is exactly what this stimulus bill is.

I'm not dismissing the point you are trying to make. I'm just asking for what alternative solution Massie proposes. Right now it's big business working on overdrive stocking shelves and stepping up to do what they can be it making protective gear or hand sanitizers or offering to cover people's copays for COVID-19 treatment.

FTR my opinion can be changed so I'm looking forward to reading Massie's proposal. Thanks in advance.
Is it acceptable to you if Massie doesn’t have a proposal, but opposes the establishment’s bill? Can one oppose something terribly harmful without offering an alternative?
 
He may be right but so many of the people desperately need that money and hoping congress will do the right this doesn't feed your children or grandparents
You see the problem with that, don't you?

Congress (and the cronies who get those assholes elected) will constantly be looking for the next "crisis" to exploit and raid the treasury.

We must demand more!!!

.
 
Democracy tends to interfere with big business and vice versa. It's a question of priorities. Which do you prefer, the people or big profits for a few? Can't have it both ways.
 
Democracy tends to interfere with big business and vice versa.
How does "democracy" (democratically represented republic) interfere with big business and vice versa?

Sure, pure democracy interferes with all business. Pure democracy interferes with all rights. Pure democracy is tyranny. But, we don't have pure democracy.

.
 
He may be right but so many of the people desperately need that money and hoping congress will do the right this doesn't feed your children or grandparents
So in your mind, the criminal federal government can only offer this extremely harmful stimulus bill or offer nothing. Fuck that.

The government is forcing businesses to close resulting in many people losing their source of income. So either the government can offer a lifeline for Wall Street or the government can become the source of income for all the people who have lost and will continue to loss work...take your pick.
Do you think this new stimulus bill
What's the alternative? Massie surely doesn't have one. It seems that he already backed off on his crude attempt at political posturing.
So you think there are no alternatives.

There are always alternative, the thing is do those alternative hold up to the reality we face having a divided government?
I'm willing to read Massie proposed alternative if you want to post it.
You entire premise is wrong. We don’t have a divided government. That’s pure propaganda. Both parties are one when it comes to enriching the rich, which is exactly what this stimulus bill is.

I'm not dismissing the point you are trying to make. I'm just asking for what alternative solution Massie proposes. Right now it's big business working on overdrive stocking shelves and stepping up to do what they can be it making protective gear or hand sanitizers or offering to cover people's copays for COVID-19 treatment.

FTR my opinion can be changed so I'm looking forward to reading Massie's proposal. Thanks in advance.
Is it acceptable to you if Massie doesn’t have a proposal, but opposes the establishment’s bill? Can one oppose something terribly harmful without offering an alternative?

If Massie can't offer an alternative how am I to take him serious about there being a better solution? Massie not offering a solution but opposing this one IMO is along the lines of those who are writing off potential treatment that could save lives unless we spend 6 months to a year testing them...by then it's to late.
 
He may be right but so many of the people desperately need that money and hoping congress will do the right this doesn't feed your children or grandparents
You see the problem with that, don't you?

Congress (and the cronies who get those assholes elected) will constantly be looking for the next "crisis" to exploit and raid the treasury.

We must demand more!!!

.
just stop the destruction of the country and put the workforce back in business. It didn't work, the numbers jumped much higher afterward. They would have with anything that they did, sometimes doing nothing is the right move. this wasn't. yeah, yeah, I know the responses from the sheeples, if we did nothing they'd have been much much higher. Based off of nothing. there is absolutely no data that supports that thought. it was a model, with bad data, like every other model before it. what a bunch of jim jones'rs wishing to destroy our country for china. I ain't with these experts at all in this. Experts of what? anyone else asking that question? I know I'm not the only one with this opinion. I was listening to Rush and a woman, from Chicago by the way like me, who doesn't believe this shit either. zip for data, no actual data to make such drastic measures. zero. I can pull up virus statistics after virus statistics in the books that says this is all normal. h1n1. same deal, the opioid crisis is worse, the shootings in chicago worse than the deaths in the state. fk all of these traitors destroying our country and you all are letting them. I'm talking. join me if you believe like me. if you don't post the data.

BTW, the biggest missing number? the number of patients hospitalized.

The sky is falling, our hospitals don't have enough of this and that and this and that. and no fking numbers. know why? they won't show the sky falling. just like global warming doesn't. fk
 
Democracy tends to interfere with big business and vice versa.
How does "democracy" (democratically represented republic) interfere with big business and vice versa?

Sure, pure democracy interferes with all business.
Asked and answered. And all BIG business interferes with democracy.
Pure democracy interferes with all rights.
Not rights, BIG business.
Pure democracy is tyranny.
Tyranny of the majority. Majority rule. Correct. Over minorities which must then be protected from its tyranny. This the Founders understood and tried to implement. Remains a work in progress. Never ending.. Would you prefer the tyranny of a tyrant? Of BIG corporations? Bill Gates? Jeff Bezos? Those should not be our options.
But, we don't have pure democracy.
Pure anything is impossible. Point is BIG corporations should at least be our bitches not our rulers. Better yet, get rid of them all. Anti-trust. Break 'em up! Also, limit private income and wealth enough to ensure corruption can't get out of hand again. If we can have a minimum then we can have a maximum wage. What's left for everyone else when you eliminate the excessive? Enough.
 
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Democracy tends to interfere with big business and vice versa.
How does "democracy" (democratically represented republic) interfere with big business and vice versa?

Sure, pure democracy interferes with all business.
Asked and answered. And all BIG business interferes with democracy.
Pure democracy interferes with all rights.
Not rights, BIG business.
Pure democracy is tyranny.
Tyranny of the majority. Majority rule. Correct. Over minorities which must then be protected from its tyranny. This the Founders understood and tried to implement. Remains a work in progress. Never ending.. Would you prefer the tyranny of a tyrant? Of BIG corporations? Bill Gates? Jeff Bezos? Those should not be our options.
But, we don't have pure democracy.
Pure anything is impossible. Point is BIG corporations should at least be our bitches not our rulers. Better yet, get rid of them all. Anti-trust. Break 'em up! Also, limit private income and wealth enough to ensure corruption can't get out of hand again. If we can have a minimum then we can have a maximum wage. What's left for everyone else when you eliminate the excessive? Enough.
Tyranny of the majority. Majority rule. Correct. Over minorities which must then be protected from its tyranny. This the Founders understood and tried to implement. Remains a work in progress. Never ending.. Would you prefer the tyranny of a tyrant? Of BIG corporations? Bill Gates? Jeff Bezos? Those should not be our options.

oh, fk no, the minority win all the time in this country. the welfare people get their money for doing zip. doing fking ZIP.
 
He may be right but so many of the people desperately need that money and hoping congress will do the right this doesn't feed your children or grandparents
You see the problem with that, don't you?

Congress (and the cronies who get those assholes elected) will constantly be looking for the next "crisis" to exploit and raid the treasury.

We must demand more!!!

.
just stop the destruction of the country and put the workforce back in business. It didn't work, the numbers jumped much higher afterward. They would have with anything that they did, sometimes doing nothing is the right move. this wasn't. yeah, yeah, I know the responses from the sheeples, if we did nothing they'd have been much much higher. Based off of nothing. there is absolutely no data that supports that thought. it was a model, with bad data, like every other model before it. what a bunch of jim jones'rs wishing to destroy our country for china. I ain't with these experts at all in this. Experts of what? anyone else asking that question? I know I'm not the only one with this opinion. I was listening to Rush and a woman, from Chicago by the way like me, who doesn't believe this shit either. zip for data, no actual data to make such drastic measures. zero. I can pull up virus statistics after virus statistics in the books that says this is all normal. h1n1. same deal, the opioid crisis is worse, the shootings in chicago worse than the deaths in the state. fk all of these traitors destroying our country and you all are letting them. I'm talking. join me if you believe like me. if you don't post the data.

BTW, the biggest missing number? the number of patients hospitalized.

The sky is falling, our hospitals don't have enough of this and that and this and that. and no fking numbers. know why? they won't show the sky falling. just like global warming doesn't. fk
Summary: Government is too fucking powerful.

Amiright?

.
 
Democracy tends to interfere with big business and vice versa.
How does "democracy" (democratically represented republic) interfere with big business and vice versa?

Sure, pure democracy interferes with all business.
Asked and answered. And all BIG business interferes with democracy.
Pure democracy interferes with all rights.
Not rights, BIG business.
Pure democracy is tyranny.
Tyranny of the majority. Majority rule. Correct. Over minorities which must then be protected from its tyranny. This the Founders understood and tried to implement. Remains a work in progress. Never ending.. Would you prefer the tyranny of a tyrant? Of BIG corporations? Bill Gates? Jeff Bezos? Those should not be our options.
But, we don't have pure democracy.
Pure anything is impossible. Point is BIG corporations should at least be our bitches not our rulers. Better yet, get rid of them all. Anti-trust. Break 'em up! Also, limit private income and wealth enough to ensure corruption can't get out of hand again. If we can have a minimum then we can have a maximum wage. What's left for everyone else when you eliminate the excessive? Enough.
Pure anything is impossible. Point is BIG corporations should at least be our bitches not our rulers. Better yet, get rid of them all. Anti-trust. Break 'em up! Also, limit private income and wealth enough to ensure corruption can't get out of hand again. If we can have a minimum then we can have a maximum wage. What's left for everyone else when you eliminate the excessive? Enough.

oh for fk sake. you are a commie fk. It's obvious you haven't learned from the 2 trillion stimulus that government money runs out. Why else is Peloser already preparing for Phase four? hmmmmmmmm? government is not self supporting. The corporations are needed to supply jobs for liquidity within the country. for fk sake. how about enough from you!
 
He may be right but so many of the people desperately need that money and hoping congress will do the right this doesn't feed your children or grandparents
You see the problem with that, don't you?

Congress (and the cronies who get those assholes elected) will constantly be looking for the next "crisis" to exploit and raid the treasury.

We must demand more!!!

.
just stop the destruction of the country and put the workforce back in business. It didn't work, the numbers jumped much higher afterward. They would have with anything that they did, sometimes doing nothing is the right move. this wasn't. yeah, yeah, I know the responses from the sheeples, if we did nothing they'd have been much much higher. Based off of nothing. there is absolutely no data that supports that thought. it was a model, with bad data, like every other model before it. what a bunch of jim jones'rs wishing to destroy our country for china. I ain't with these experts at all in this. Experts of what? anyone else asking that question? I know I'm not the only one with this opinion. I was listening to Rush and a woman, from Chicago by the way like me, who doesn't believe this shit either. zip for data, no actual data to make such drastic measures. zero. I can pull up virus statistics after virus statistics in the books that says this is all normal. h1n1. same deal, the opioid crisis is worse, the shootings in chicago worse than the deaths in the state. fk all of these traitors destroying our country and you all are letting them. I'm talking. join me if you believe like me. if you don't post the data.

BTW, the biggest missing number? the number of patients hospitalized.

The sky is falling, our hospitals don't have enough of this and that and this and that. and no fking numbers. know why? they won't show the sky falling. just like global warming doesn't. fk
Summary: Government is too fucking powerful.

Amiright?

.
people give them that power. so I'm not real sure how to answer that. yes they are, but we gave it to them. fk us for doing that. I will not shut up about this, this exposed them, this is the swamp winning and bringing trump into it. oh my fking god. the stimulus just showed socialism is not sustainable. 2 trillion dollars and peloser is ready to provide more money because it isn't enough. She has exposed it. I mean fk, the checks aren't even out yet.
 
Tyranny of the majority. Majority rule. Correct. Over minorities which must then be protected from its tyranny. This the Founders understood and tried to implement. Remains a work in progress. Never ending.. Would you prefer the tyranny of a tyrant? Of BIG corporations? Bill Gates? Jeff Bezos? Those should not be our options.
The only reason those big guys can be tyrants is because the government they bought is too powerful.

Weaken government and you weaken its value to the big dudes.

A government should never have more authority and power than the individuals who formed it.

.
 
It's good to be seen as dangerous in the eyes of a tyrants. They'll think twice next time, gare awn teed.


 
It's good to be seen as dangerous in the eyes of a tyrants. They'll think twice next time, gare awn teed.


Massie was spot on. so they can both eat me.
 
Grassroots had a moneybomb rolling by the following day, right after the Republican Jewish Coalition called for him to be primaried.


Massie's re-election is secured. Not that it was really in any danger. They should have left sleeping lions alone. The Republican Jewish Coalition picked the wrong cat(s) to poke a stick at. They cannot compete. Not yesterday. Not today. Not tomorrow. Not any day. But I digress.
 
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He may be right but so many of the people desperately need that money and hoping congress will do the right this doesn't feed your children or grandparents
So in your mind, the criminal federal government can only offer this extremely harmful stimulus bill or offer nothing. Fuck that.

The government is forcing businesses to close resulting in many people losing their source of income. So either the government can offer a lifeline for Wall Street or the government can become the source of income for all the people who have lost and will continue to loss work...take your pick.
Do you think this new stimulus bill
What's the alternative? Massie surely doesn't have one. It seems that he already backed off on his crude attempt at political posturing.
So you think there are no alternatives.

There are always alternative, the thing is do those alternative hold up to the reality we face having a divided government?
I'm willing to read Massie proposed alternative if you want to post it.
You entire premise is wrong. We don’t have a divided government. That’s pure propaganda. Both parties are one when it comes to enriching the rich, which is exactly what this stimulus bill is.

I'm not dismissing the point you are trying to make. I'm just asking for what alternative solution Massie proposes. Right now it's big business working on overdrive stocking shelves and stepping up to do what they can be it making protective gear or hand sanitizers or offering to cover people's copays for COVID-19 treatment.

FTR my opinion can be changed so I'm looking forward to reading Massie's proposal. Thanks in advance.
Is it acceptable to you if Massie doesn’t have a proposal, but opposes the establishment’s bill? Can one oppose something terribly harmful without offering an alternative?

If Massie can't offer an alternative how am I to take him serious about there being a better solution? Massie not offering a solution but opposing this one IMO is along the lines of those who are writing off potential treatment that could save lives unless we spend 6 months to a year testing them...by then it's to late.
So what your saying is we must accept something horrible, unless there is a better alternative. I don’t think that is logical.
 
Tyranny of the majority. Majority rule. Correct. Over minorities which must then be protected from its tyranny. This the Founders understood and tried to implement. Remains a work in progress. Never ending.. Would you prefer the tyranny of a tyrant? Of BIG corporations? Bill Gates? Jeff Bezos? Those should not be our options.
The only reason those big guys can be tyrants is because the government they bought is too powerful.

Weaken government and you weaken its value to the big dudes.

A government should never have more authority and power than the individuals who formed it.

.
Oops, too late by 243 years.
 

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