This place hasn't changed a bit. Just checking in.

[Monk-Eye]

" Plastic Dolls "

* Cry Babies *

Ignore it is then.
Thanks for saving my time.

@Chuz spams twitter accounts with over whelming spittle and reverts to temper tantrum cowardice on the back end where simpleton propaganda is more easily dispatched with prejudice .

 

[Robert W]

Naw, the problem is you finally got what you wanted (getting rid of Roe) and people kept having abortions.

Imagine that.

Even ******* Kansas and Ohio have voted to enshrine Roe protections.

That should provide a lesson about the nature of the USA. States actually are mini countries inside the larger country. Each state has a capitol. Each has state congresses. Each has a person called a governor. Each has state courts.
Each use the electoral college. No state uses what you call Roe laws.

 

[The Duke]

I agree, Roe was a bad decision. This should have played out in the state legislatures.

The problem with pro-life nutters like Ugly Baby Guy is that they don't get that prohibiting a behavior never really works if there isn't universal agreement that it's wrong. This is why Prohibition didn't work.

If you are seriously about reducing the number of abortions, change the culture, not the law.

There IS a universal agreement that it's wrong, moron. But that's among human beings.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Individuals Makes Self Ownership Decisions For Progeny As Literal Meaning Of An After Life "

* Freak Farmer Fanatics Pandering Tyranny By Collective Majority Against Independence Of The Individual *

This isn't "a tampon".
This is a child 15 weeks after conception...
Gemini? How long after conception does an unborn child begin feeling pain?

‎Gemini - direct access to Google AI

Created with Gemini

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Please stop building flimsy strawmen and address the topic... abortion.

Such are lies of propaganda , as post 13 weeks women are not seeking without cause abortions , and abortion anti-choice scatter in hysteria to fathom meaning of with cause abortion .

Assuming ultrasound is available at 13 weeks , or amniocentesis at 15 - 20 weeks , developmental anomalies in the fetus are included in with cause abortions .

 

[The Duke]

Conception is a special thing.

 

[Ropey]

I agree, Roe was a bad decision. This should have played out in the state legislatures.

So, you don't see what's coming down the pike. Good.

The problem with pro-life nutters like Ugly Baby Guy is that they don't get that prohibiting a behavior never really works if there isn't universal agreement that it's wrong. This is why Prohibition didn't work.

There is no problem. States' rights will settle this pro-death strategy and the trending is clear. Pro-life is winning.

If you are seriously about reducing the number of abortions, change the culture, not the law.

The law is upstream of the culture.

That's what leftists never figure out and why they always end up with the people hating them.

 

[Ropey]

Oh, it's getting good.

 

[JoeB131]

This isn't "a tampon".

This is a child 15 weeks after conception...

Awesome. Most abortions happen at the eighth week.

Gemini? How long after conception does an unborn child begin feeling pain?

If you want to draw "pain-capable" as a line, you'd be drawing it at 20 weeks, not 15.

Please stop building flimsy strawmen and address the topic... abortion.

I have.

Fetuses aren't legally recognized as people.

If you don't like that, change the law, but think about all the implications if you give a glob of tissue more rights than the woman it is inside.

 

[JoeB131]

There IS a universal agreement that it's wrong, moron. But that's among human beings

63% of the population isn't human?

Public Opinion on Abortion

While public support for legal abortion has fluctuated some in two decades of polling, it has remained relatively stable over the past five years.

www.pewresearch.org

While public support for legal abortion has fluctuated somewhat in two decades of polling, it has remained relatively stable over the past several years. Currently, 63% say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 36% say it should be illegal in all or most cases.

 

[The Duke]

63% of the population isn't human?

Public Opinion on Abortion

While public support for legal abortion has fluctuated some in two decades of polling, it has remained relatively stable over the past five years.

www.pewresearch.org

While public support for legal abortion has fluctuated somewhat in two decades of polling, it has remained relatively stable over the past several years. Currently, 63% say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 36% say it should be illegal in all or most cases.

Your poll is fake and you are a retard.

 

[JoeB131]

That should provide a lesson about the nature of the USA. States actually are mini countries inside the larger country. Each state has a capitol. Each has state congresses. Each has a person called a governor. Each has state courts.
Each use the electoral college. No state uses what you call Roe laws.

Is the Magic underwear cutting off circulation to your brain, Bob?

 

[Robert W]

Is the Magic underwear cutting off circulation to your brain, Bob?

No reason for you to get surly.

 

[Missourian]

Awesome. Most abortions happen at the eighth week.

Cool. I said I'm willing to compromise. Let's make the cut off for abortions 12 weeks.

Thread 'Nebraska passes 12 week abortion bill with a ban on...'

May 20, 2023

... destructive gender treatments for minors.

The Governor is expected to sign the bill.

Less restrictive than the heartbeat bill... this returns the legal standard to the first trimester, before the left lost their minds.

A good compromise between the rights of the mother, and the rights of the unborn child.

Nebraska lawmakers pass bill restricting abortion, gender-affirming care for trans minors

The bill will restrict abortion after 12 weeks and gender affirming care for minors under the age of 19 in Nebraska.

abcnews.go.com

• Missourian

 

[TemplarKormac]

Now what? Necro an old thread or start anew? Come at me pro-aborts.

Go necro a thread. Show us how dirty you really are.

 

[Monk-Eye]

* Self Consuming Myopia Of Ego *

* Subjective Altruism Obsessions Of Hue Mammon Ego *

There IS a universal agreement that it's wrong, moron. But that's among human beings.

By induction from a primordial ego , an instantiation of any ego includes a motivation that its introspection should exist in perpetuity .

Consider a macrocosm of universality , where each instantiation of ego is a manifestation of a magnanimous primordial ego .

A subjective altruism from a magnanimous primordial ego would be that its introspection should exist in perpetuity , however empirical evidence from nature relates that not every instance of an ego is required for introspection of ego to exist in perpetuity .

Any rite which can be alienated can not be inalienable .

The properties of an irrational number can be related with perpetuity through qualities of infinitude .

. Zone1 - Does Something Without End Have A Beginning ? .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Electorate Of Populist Contributions "

* Opposing Authoritarian Power Brokers And Defending Independence Of The Individual *

Your poll is fake and you are a retard.

Which would be yearn estimates of national percentages , or basis for contesting the validity of such a poll ?

The representatives of us public have entered into those places through financial allegiances that may not be in line with us public at large on any particular issue .

60% of votes by federal electorate in congress has a capacity to modify us constitution .

 

[JoeB131]

Cool. I said I'm willing to compromise. Let's make the cut off for abortions 12 weeks.

Um, okay. Now, how do you enforce it?

I promise you, every OB/GYN will just declare every fetus they aborted was at 11 weeks or less.

This is why SCOTUS passed Roe in 1973. They knew the laws were unworkable and not being followed, but the legislatures simply didn't have the political courage to take them off the books.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Matters Of Obvious Limits During Periods Of Future Times "

* Not At Fault For Not Trying *

That should provide a lesson about the nature of the USA. States actually are mini countries inside the larger country. Each state has a capitol. Each has state congresses. Each has a person called a governor. Each has state courts.
Each use the electoral college. No state uses what you call Roe laws.

A us state does not have the power to abrogate an enumerated rite for equal protection within us 14th amendment , and a live birth requirement is a non incidental requirement to become a citizen of us federate and a citizen of a us state by residence , whereby states are prohibited from providing rites of protection to any which has not met a live birth requirement to be recognized as a person according to legitimate interests of us federate or any us state .

. Explain Roe V Wade References To Potential Life .

. Demand Any Nomination For Us Supreme Court Justice Explain Blackmun ' Logically Of Course ' Statement From Roe V Wade .

. Equal Protection Of Citizenship Is In A State Of Sedition Because Of Supreme Court Ruling On Abortion .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Is Bad Better Or Worse Than Not Good In Continuing Resolutions "

* Standardization Of Good Versus Not Good Public Protection *

Um, okay. Now, how do you enforce it?
I promise you, every OB/GYN will just declare every fetus they aborted was at 11 weeks or less.
This is why SCOTUS passed Roe in 1973. They knew the laws were unworkable and not being followed, but the legislatures simply didn't have the political courage to take them off the books.

The roe v wade ruled that in second trimester states could regulate abortion to ensure that the procedures were safe .

The diagnosis of second trimester developmental anomalies in fetus are available through ultrasound at 13 weeks , through amniocentesis at 15 - 20 , through microvilli at 13 weeks , assuming services are available , with miscarriage risks for the latter .

The roe v wade ruled that in third trimester states could proscribe abortion , as an ability of a fetus to survive an imminent live birth - at natural viability was substituted in lieu of a live birth requirement for legitimate interests of a federate or state to provide equal protection with a citizen .

The roe v wade ruled that first trimester abortions were between doctor and patient and did not represent a significant public safety risk , even as d&c was more frequent then modern medical abortion .

To establish independence of the individual through equal protection of negative liberties , as per us 9th amendment , and to institute legitimate interests of a state for ensuring public safety and security , there is not a constitutional reason for states not to have roe v wade laws .

 

[Missourian]

Um, okay. Now, how do you enforce it?

I promise you, every OB/GYN will just declare every fetus they aborted was at 11 weeks or less.

This is why SCOTUS passed Roe in 1973. They knew the laws were unworkable and not being followed, but the legislatures simply didn't have the political courage to take them off the books.

Seems like it must be super easy from all the stories the left finds of hospitals that refuse to do abortions due to state laws.