I don't see much sense in being emotionally invested in politics

If you were not wrapped up in it emotionally, you would not be posting.
Being interested enough to watch and have conversations isn't the same as being wrapped up in it emotionally, in my opinion.
 
I'd find it hard to disagree with that position.

Happy, well-adjusted, sane people are content and too involved in developing their own lives, so it is left to the unhappy, maladjusted, insane people driven by angst, lust for power and control who spend all their time manipulating weaker minds to rise to dominance.

Hitler would seem to be the textbook example.
The Democrat message is this:

You are a miserable failure.

It's not your fault.

It is society's fault.

You are a victim.

Vote Democrat and we will fix that by going after those who are not such failures in life.
 
Being interested enough to watch and have conversations isn't the same as being wrapped up in it emotionally, in my opinion.
Emotion is the force behind every conversation. Emotion and cognitive thought cant be separated. Emotion controls what you think you know
 
Emotion is the force behind every conversation. Emotion and cognitive thought cant be separated. Emotion controls what you think you know
Okay. I didn't claim to be emotionless. I said I'm not emotionally wrapped up. I'm not invested in outcomes. I genuinely don't care who wins.
 
Even voting seems a bit pointless to me, let alone getting wrapped up emotionally. The system works. Not perfectly, and not in ways that always feel satisfying, but it’s stable enough. Presidents change, policies shuffle, parties argue, yet the country keeps moving. I do see why people feel the need to participate though. Even if your vote is mathematically irrelevant, taking part gives a sense of agency. It maintains the illusion that we can influence outcomes meaningfully.

The shuffle every four years is mostly theater, but I don’t take it negatively. I recognize that the appearance of participation is socially important, even if the causal power is vanishingly small. Most people need to feel like they’re part of the process, even if the real system is running on inertia and institutional checks.

Beyond that, the available candidates rarely interest me, and I doubt the parties could realistically produce someone who does. Politics has become a game of coalition management, fundraising, and media framing. Cleverness in spectacle often outpaces competence in governance. I don’t expect that to change any time soon, and I’ve made peace with it. The country is still a good place to live, regardless of who occupies the White House.

For me, politics is a lens for observation rather than obsession. The drama exists, and some people thrive on it, but I see it as a system functioning within its own logic, independent of my individual leverage. That perspective makes the noise of elections less stressful, and it frees up energy to focus on what truly matters in life.
AS a citizen of USA, Why would it kill you to preform your duty? If you dislike them ALL just write in your name,
if you think you could do a better job.
 
Even voting seems a bit pointless to me, .
AS a citizen of USA, Why would it kill you to preform your duty?
Duty? Is that the way you see it?
If you dislike them ALL just write in your name,
if you think you could do a better job.
Have you never heard the phrase, "honesty is the best policy"? Why vote for someone who cannot represent you any more than someone who refuses to represent you?
 
I no longer vote. The most important issue for me is to get out of NATO. We've got a ton of various political parties but only two of them are against NATO:

1). The Communist Party. I have nothing against Communism but the idiots we have here are childish dolts and don't know shit from shinola. It's all "Down with this!" and "Down with that!" but they have no suggestions on how to make the country function once they've suceeded in knocking everything "Down!"

2). The racialist Nazis. I don't like racists. I don't like Nazis.
 
The Democrat message is this: You are a miserable failure. It's not your fault. It is society's fault. You are a victim.
Vote Democrat and we will fix that by going after those who are not such failures in life.

Excellent way of putting it. Too bad no matter how many times they keep reelecting democrats, they just never manage to fix any of this. Oh well, maybe if we elect democrats just one more time...

DRAT. Those rotten republicans just keep stopping them. :smoke:
 
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Did the angels and cherubim come to sing when he was resurrected?

You've lost your mind, sweet cakes. :cuckoo:
I don’t know his fate. Did the good Muslims who flew planes into buildings get their 72 virgins?
 
Well, you should stand up and demand Proportional Representation.

Because that system is actually DEMOCRACY, where FPTP isn't.

I've been talking about it for 12 years or so on this forum, and still people come up with lame excuses for why they shouldn't be an active participant in their own country's politics.

"We're not Germany" "We already have Proportional Representation" "I'm too forking stupid to look up Proportional Representation on wikipedia" "wiki-what-now?" "Guhhhhhh" and other such responses.
We are not a democracy
 
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Well, you should stand up and demand Proportional Representation.

Because that system is actually DEMOCRACY, where FPTP isn't.

I've been talking about it for 12 years or so on this forum, and still people come up with lame excuses for why they shouldn't be an active participant in their own country's politics.

"We're not Germany" "We already have Proportional Representation" "I'm too forking stupid to look up Proportional Representation on wikipedia" "wiki-what-now?" "Guhhhhhh" and other such responses.

Its a stupid idea.
 
Why vote for someone who cannot represent you any more than someone who refuses to represent you?
That’s some crackerjack logic right there. People vote for candidates that lose all the time.

So only vote for winners? Is that how it’s done in Russia?
 
Even voting seems a bit pointless to me, let alone getting wrapped up emotionally. The system works. Not perfectly, and not in ways that always feel satisfying, but it’s stable enough. Presidents change, policies shuffle, parties argue, yet the country keeps moving. I do see why people feel the need to participate though. Even if your vote is mathematically irrelevant, taking part gives a sense of agency. It maintains the illusion that we can influence outcomes meaningfully.

The shuffle every four years is mostly theater, but I don’t take it negatively. I recognize that the appearance of participation is socially important, even if the causal power is vanishingly small. Most people need to feel like they’re part of the process, even if the real system is running on inertia and institutional checks.

Beyond that, the available candidates rarely interest me, and I doubt the parties could realistically produce someone who does. Politics has become a game of coalition management, fundraising, and media framing. Cleverness in spectacle often outpaces competence in governance. I don’t expect that to change any time soon, and I’ve made peace with it. The country is still a good place to live, regardless of who occupies the White House.

For me, politics is a lens for observation rather than obsession. The drama exists, and some people thrive on it, but I see it as a system functioning within its own logic, independent of my individual leverage. That perspective makes the noise of elections less stressful, and it frees up energy to focus on what truly matters in life.
If you love America

If you are proud to be an American

Then you must take politics personally

You cant be indifferent
 
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