Zone1 This Makes No Sense

[K9Buck]

I know what they are so enlighten yourself. The difference in murders between whites and blacks annually is very small. Yet whites commit at least 5 times the amount of suicides than blacks that kill each other and at least 5 times the number of black suicides. So you see idiot, it's whites who are killing themselves.

We were discussing MURDER, not suicide.

 

[IM2]

We were discussing MURDER, not suicide.

We are talking about crime and you just need to face the fact that whites commit more. Murder is not the only crime and when you consider that white collar crime takes away everything a person has but their life, you just need to SYWAU.

 

[el midgetron]

Come on guys, lets all just agree that white people commit more crime. Oh, and simultaneously claim that the same crime statistics are evidence of systemic racism.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Come on guys, lets all just agree that white people commit more crime. Oh, and simultaneously claim that the same crime statistics are evidence of systemic racism.

I see you’ve figured out IM2s shtick.

 

[the watcher]

There is no good racism.

Sure there is, you just call yours activism, and righteous reckoning, No difference.

 

[JoeB131]

Total and absolute Democrat BULLSHIT. There is no skin color in nationalism.

Really?

I can think of two "Nationalist" nations in history. Germany under the Nazis and China under the Guomindang. We don't have to review what the Nazis did, but the Nationalists in China are an interesting case, in that they oppressed ethnic minorities such as the Mongols, Manchu, and Uighurs.

You mean the nationalism that had people flocking to the colors in the ACW, WWI and WWII, and had me enlisting to support my country in Vietnam? Nationalism is a good thing, not a bad one.

Except all three of those wars, people didn't "flock to the colors". They had to be drafted.

In WWI, German-Americans were treated with suspicion. Some were even jailed for being of German Ancestry, including one US Congressman.
In WWII, we locked up 110,000 Japanese-Americans.
In the Civil War, half the country rejected the "colors".

Oh, yeah, in all three of those wars, the military was segregated, with African Americans being put into "colored units".

No, "Nationalism" is not a good thing.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Really?

I can think of two "Nationalist" nations in history. Germany under the Nazis and China under the Guomindang. We don't have to review what the Nazis did, but the Nationalists in China are an interesting case, in that they oppressed ethnic minorities such as the Mongols, Manchu, and Uighurs.



Except all three of those wars, people didn't "flock to the colors". They had to be drafted.

In WWI, German-Americans were treated with suspicion. Some were even jailed for being of German Ancestry, including one US Congressman.
In WWII, we locked up 110,000 Japanese-Americans.
In the Civil War, half the country rejected the "colors".

Oh, yeah, in all three of those wars, the military was segregated, with African Americans being put into "colored units".

No, "Nationalism" is not a good thing.

People DID flock to the colors. German-Americans fought in WWI AND WWII, Japanese -Americans fought in WWII in both the Pacific and European theaters. as did Italian-Americans. Recruiting stations were turning away applicants because there weren't openings for them. In WWII, the draft started long before the USA entered the war (September 1940), the WWI draft was established in May of 1917. Roughly forty percent of the WWI army were enlistees, and congress amended the draft law in August 1918 to ban enlisting.

Nationalism has nothing to do with racism.

 

[JoeB131]

People DID flock to the colors. German-Americans fought in WWI AND WWII, Japanese -Americans fought in WWII in both the Pacific and European theaters. as did Italian-Americans. Recruiting stations were turning away applicants because there weren't openings for them. In WWII, the draft started long before the USA entered the war (September 1940), the WWI draft was established in May of 1917. Roughly forty percent of the WWI army were enlistees, and congress amended the draft law in August 1918 to ban enlisting.

Okay,

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

The reality... most of the guys who fought in WWII (Including my dad) were conscripts who would rather be somewhere else.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Okay,

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

The reality... most of the guys who fought in WWII (Including my dad) were conscripts who would rather be somewhere else.

You're right, you can't fight a world-wide war that requires millions of troops with volunteers. No nation has fought a world war with a volunteer force.

 

[el midgetron]

Nationalism is a good thing. Associating nationalism to racist concepts is not. Society needs shared values, beliefs and traditions to survive, nationalism provides it all. A nation without an identity will not survive.

 

[IM2]

Sure there is, you just call yours activism, and righteous reckoning, No difference.

No, there is a difference. But since you really have never faced racism, you've been radicalized to believe any criticism of what has been and continues to be done as some form of anti white racism.

 

[the watcher]

How could you possibly know what anyone else has experienced?

 

[IM2]

How could you possibly know what anyone else has experienced?

If you actually seen or experienced racism from whites, you would not be making the comments you have made. Calling activism racism, that's just straight silly.

 

[JoeB131]

You're right, you can't fight a world-wide war that requires millions of troops with volunteers. No nation has fought a world war with a volunteer force.

The World Wars wouldn't have been necessary at all if it weren't for the "Nationalism" of the Central Powers and then the Axis.

Nationalism is a good thing. Associating nationalism to racist concepts is not. Society needs shared values, beliefs and traditions to survive, nationalism provides it all. A nation without an identity will not survive.

Except Nationalism inevitably sees minorities as "The Other".

 

[IM2]

Activism against white racism isn't racism and if you really faced white racism you would know this Meister.

 

[the watcher]

If you actually seen or experienced racism from whites, you would not be making the comments you have made. Calling activism racism, that's just straight silly.

Does experiencing racism from blacks count, or are you the final expert on the subject? You really need help, you are being consumed by your own hate.