This LIBERAL says LOUD and CLEAR - No one is taking away my guns! PERIOD!!!!

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After something like the recent "terrorist" attack, Republicans will go after Democrats feeling their gun rights are threatened. This is the partisan slant Right Wingers give to everything. First, a few "truths":

1. This guy was building a bomb. No one is "searched" when they go into a movie theater. Anyone can carry a back pack. Anyone who is determined to kill a lot of people can do it.

2. We live in an information age. How to make a bomb information is available on the Internet for anyone who wants to know. A BIG bomb. Right Winger Timothy McVeigh proved that.

3. The Constitution gives us the right to own guns. It's served this country for a couple of hundred years. I see no problem and don't want to change that now.

4. It's the culture that leads to something like this. This new idea of "every man for himself" and "no one helped me" and "I did it all on my own". That's a two edge sword. If people start feeling they did everything on their own, they tend not to help others. In fact, they demonize others. Look at the economy. From 2001 to 2008, millions of jobs were moved to China, that can't be denied. Just searching " From 2001 to 2008, millions of jobs were moved to China" on the Internet, we can look at all the facts, data and statistics.

From 2001 to 2008, millions of jobs were moved to China

Now you have those on the right calling those who have lost their jobs terrible names:

Republicans block unemployment benefits extension for lazy drug addicted breeding hobos- VIDEO - National Cultural Issues | Examiner.com

When you demonize segments of society, you devalue ALL human beings. Everyone belongs to "one of those groups" so going after them is OK.

The fact that guys like this terrorist and the one who shot the congresswoman walking around without anyone doing anything is a sign of our times. Sure, there may be one or two who are good actors and everyone is fooled, but only a few. After every one one of these incidents, people come back with, "I knew there was something about blah blah blah....". How many parents say, "I had no clue" when their son or daughter "come out" to them? Almost none. When you live with someone, you can tell when there is something funny going on. And this is a product of our culture, not the fault of the parents.

It takes a village to raise a child. No one does it on their own in a vacuum.

It's more than ironic that the right fears their guns will be taken away. They should feel that way. There will be people on both sides who will see England and Germany and other countries as a model for gun rights. Screw them, our rights are protected by the constitution and that is something I will personally fight for. But at the SAME time, which political party wants to take away "women's rights" and "gay rights" and partake in "voter suppression". In fact, there is no place in the Constitution where it says you need a photo ID to vote.

I suspect I'm on the side of the majority of Americans. I would be shocked to learn otherwise.
 
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Excellent points, as usual.

That means the name calling rw's will soon arrive to ignore content while flaming you.

The way I see that is, if I'm not annoying the radical, religious, teebagger, right, I'm doing it wrong. ;)
 
Excellent points, as usual.

That means the name calling rw's will soon arrive to ignore content while flaming you.

The way I see that is, if I'm not annoying the radical, religious, teebagger, right, I'm doing it wrong. ;)

They are easily annoyed by facts, data, and common sense.
 
Banning assault weapons = no more semi-auto rifles.

Could be a "slippery slope".

It is a slope that must not be touched, thus we avoid the "slip". In fact, few ARE suggesting firearm bans, Obama made that clear; the horror of the Colorado killings cannot be erased by enacting legislation.

“This immediately leads to the issue of gun control,” Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, said Sunday when asked about the shootings on CNN. “To think that somehow increased gun control is the answer, that would have to be proved.”

Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado offered a similar response on CNN about whether he would support heavier restrictions on gun purchases.

“This is a case of evil, of someone who was an aberration of nature,” Mr. Hickenlooper said. “If it wasn’t one weapon, it would have been another.”
 
Banning assault weapons = no more semi-auto rifles.

Could be a "slippery slope".

It is a slope that must not be touched, thus we avoid the "slip". In fact, few ARE suggesting firearm bans, Obama made that clear; the horror of the Colorado killings cannot be erased by enacting legislation.

“This immediately leads to the issue of gun control,” Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, said Sunday when asked about the shootings on CNN. “To think that somehow increased gun control is the answer, that would have to be proved.”

Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado offered a similar response on CNN about whether he would support heavier restrictions on gun purchases.

“This is a case of evil, of someone who was an aberration of nature,” Mr. Hickenlooper said. “If it wasn’t one weapon, it would have been another.”

Aberration of Nature? Or a product of a society that believes American helping American is "socialism", hates many different groups of people and believes you don't get help or support from anyone. Greed above nation. Lying is OK and we must idolize the rich?

Such a nation is bound to produce "aberrations of nature".
 
Could be a "slippery slope".

It is a slope that must not be touched, thus we avoid the "slip". In fact, few ARE suggesting firearm bans, Obama made that clear; the horror of the Colorado killings cannot be erased by enacting legislation.

“This immediately leads to the issue of gun control,” Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, said Sunday when asked about the shootings on CNN. “To think that somehow increased gun control is the answer, that would have to be proved.”

Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado offered a similar response on CNN about whether he would support heavier restrictions on gun purchases.

“This is a case of evil, of someone who was an aberration of nature,” Mr. Hickenlooper said. “If it wasn’t one weapon, it would have been another.”

Aberration of Nature? Or a product of a society that believes American helping American is "socialism", hates many different groups of people and believes you don't get help or support from anyone. Greed above nation. Lying is OK and we must idolize the rich?

Such a nation is bound to produce "aberrations of nature".

oh dear gawd, yeah it was all that:eusa_hand:
who sits around thinking up this crap
 
is there any legitimate reason for a civilian to have a high capacity clip or an AK-47.

we know that no such things were contemplated when the 2nd amendment was written because they didn't exist.

Common use as upheld per SCOTUS.

Muskets then.

Semi-auto, detachable magazines today.

Legitimacy is not a contemplated provision.
 
is there any legitimate reason for a civilian to have a high capacity clip or an AK-47.

we know that no such things were contemplated when the 2nd amendment was written because they didn't exist.

Common use as upheld per SCOTUS.

Muskets then.

Semi-auto, detachable magazines today.

Legitimacy is not a contemplated provision.

Jilly wants us to have only muskets
 
Banning assault weapons = no more semi-auto rifles.

what's an "assault rifle"? one of the failures of the AWB as it previously existed was that whether a gun was an assault rifle or not could be defined by it's grip.

seemed pretty pointless and stupid.

the old AWB was any semi-auto rifle with more than one of 5 features:

- detachable magazine
- folding stock
- bayonet lug
- grenade launcher ring
- pistol grip

It also specfically banned certain semi-auto "clones" of their fully automatic counterpart and a semi-auto shotguns with a pistol grip holding more than 5 rounds.
 
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The clips are good if only because they make Progressives like Jilly fearful. The AK-47 has a 75 clip barrel.
 
Could be a "slippery slope".

Do you wish to ban assualt rifles and high capacity "clips" ?

is there any legitimate reason for a civilian to have a high capacity clip or an AK-47.

we know that no such things were contemplated when the 2nd amendment was written because they didn't exist.

Yes there is a very legitimate reason.
It's called the 2nd amendment and the founders made it very clear that our population was to remain armed, so that if our government ever became tyrannical or despotic again we could have another revolution to overthrow it.
We have the right to protect our homes and businesses.
When our police and national guard do not protect our property we have the right to do so.

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A Korean man carries an automatic weapon to prevent looters from entering a grocery store in Los Angeles, Thursday, April 30, 1992.


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