This Is Why The United States Cannot Simply Return Those In The Country Illegally to Their Country of Origin

Isn't that another thing the government can't control? They can certainly control taxing working people however they wish to. They also seem to be able to control spreading the wealth to the NGOs that service the illegals pretty well.
"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."
 
I love it. Pay in to social security, don't necessarily get social security. But to work here, you got to pay in. I LOVE IT!

Well they are getting something now which is a better life than what they had. Want to benefit too?...fill out the paperwork and get in line.
 
Everything is not out of wack. Only uneducated blue collar workers are not making enough. College educated people make around $80K. Uneducated make around $50K. They are struggling. Meanwhile their bosses are doing better than ever.

America is GREAT.

Right, the rich are doing well, so, fuck the poor.
 
This mass deportation effort involves multiple steps and I haven't heard yet how they plan to accomplish anything other than terrorizing folks with the roundup:
  1. Identifying those in the country unlawfully
    a. Identifying those whose locations are known
  2. Identifying destinations for deportees
  3. Identifying means of transport
Since this is not my job the above is all I could come up with off the top of my head but the following is an explanation as to why this process is not as straight forward as we have been led to believe:

The United States can request that other nations accept their citizens who are subject to deportation, but it cannot unilaterally compel compliance. The success of such efforts depends on international law, diplomatic relations, and the cooperation of the receiving country. Here's an overview:

1. International Obligations

  • Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (1963):
    • This treaty outlines the framework for consular relations between independent countries, including the obligation to accept the return of their nationals.
    • The U.S. can notify the consulate of the individual's home country and request travel documents to facilitate deportation.
  • Domestic Immigration Law:
    • U.S. immigration laws authorize the deportation of individuals unlawfully present or otherwise removable.
    • Deportation requires the receiving country's cooperation to issue necessary travel documents, such as passports or emergency travel certificates.

2. Challenges in Enforcing Returns

  • Non-Cooperation by Receiving Countries:
    • Some nations delay or refuse to accept deportees, citing issues like lack of proper identification, disputed citizenship, or political reasons.
    • For example, countries like China have historically been less cooperative in accepting deportees.
  • Stateless Individuals:
    • Deportation becomes more complicated if the individual cannot be definitively linked to a country of citizenship.

3. U.S. Actions to Encourage Compliance

The U.S. employs several strategies to encourage other nations to cooperate with deportations:
  • Visa Sanctions:
    • Under Section 243(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), the U.S. can suspend the issuance of visas to citizens of countries that refuse or unreasonably delay accepting deportees.
    • In 2017, the U.S. imposed visa sanctions on countries like Eritrea, Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Cambodia for non-cooperation.
  • Diplomatic Pressure:
    • The U.S. engages in bilateral negotiations to encourage compliance, sometimes offering foreign aid or other concessions in exchange for cooperation.
  • Repatriation Agreements:
    • The U.S. enters into formal agreements with some countries to streamline the deportation process, including timelines and procedures for issuing travel documents.

4. Human Rights Considerations

  • Non-Refoulement Principle:
    • International law prohibits deporting individuals to countries where they would face persecution, torture, or other inhumane treatment.
    • This principle is codified in U.S. law under the Refugee Act of 1980.
  • Asylum and Due Process:
    • Individuals have the right to apply for asylum or other relief from deportation, which can delay or prevent removal.

5. Enforcement Challenges

  • Immigration Detention Limits:
    • If a country refuses to accept its citizen, the U.S. may not be able to detain the individual indefinitely.
    • The U.S. Supreme Court decision in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) established that immigrants cannot be detained beyond a presumptively reasonable period (six months) if deportation is not reasonably foreseeable.

Conclusion

While the United States has legal and diplomatic tools to encourage countries to accept their citizens, it cannot compel compliance. Success often depends on the willingness of the receiving nation, international agreements, and geopolitical factors. When countries refuse to cooperate, deportation efforts can be delayed or halted, highlighting the complex interplay of law, diplomacy, and international relations in immigration enforcement.
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We could just shoot them as invaders. Why make this more difficult than this has to be..?
 
This mass deportation effort involves multiple steps and I haven't heard yet how they plan to accomplish anything other than terrorizing folks with the roundup:
  1. Identifying those in the country unlawfully
    a. Identifying those whose locations are known
  2. Identifying destinations for deportees
  3. Identifying means of transport
Since this is not my job the above is all I could come up with off the top of my head but the following is an explanation as to why this process is not as straight forward as we have been led to believe:

The United States can request that other nations accept their citizens who are subject to deportation, but it cannot unilaterally compel compliance. The success of such efforts depends on international law, diplomatic relations, and the cooperation of the receiving country. Here's an overview:

1. International Obligations

  • Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (1963):
    • This treaty outlines the framework for consular relations between independent countries, including the obligation to accept the return of their nationals.
    • The U.S. can notify the consulate of the individual's home country and request travel documents to facilitate deportation.
  • Domestic Immigration Law:
    • U.S. immigration laws authorize the deportation of individuals unlawfully present or otherwise removable.
    • Deportation requires the receiving country's cooperation to issue necessary travel documents, such as passports or emergency travel certificates.

2. Challenges in Enforcing Returns

  • Non-Cooperation by Receiving Countries:
    • Some nations delay or refuse to accept deportees, citing issues like lack of proper identification, disputed citizenship, or political reasons.
    • For example, countries like China have historically been less cooperative in accepting deportees.
  • Stateless Individuals:
    • Deportation becomes more complicated if the individual cannot be definitively linked to a country of citizenship.

3. U.S. Actions to Encourage Compliance

The U.S. employs several strategies to encourage other nations to cooperate with deportations:
  • Visa Sanctions:
    • Under Section 243(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), the U.S. can suspend the issuance of visas to citizens of countries that refuse or unreasonably delay accepting deportees.
    • In 2017, the U.S. imposed visa sanctions on countries like Eritrea, Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Cambodia for non-cooperation.
  • Diplomatic Pressure:
    • The U.S. engages in bilateral negotiations to encourage compliance, sometimes offering foreign aid or other concessions in exchange for cooperation.
  • Repatriation Agreements:
    • The U.S. enters into formal agreements with some countries to streamline the deportation process, including timelines and procedures for issuing travel documents.

4. Human Rights Considerations

  • Non-Refoulement Principle:
    • International law prohibits deporting individuals to countries where they would face persecution, torture, or other inhumane treatment.
    • This principle is codified in U.S. law under the Refugee Act of 1980.
  • Asylum and Due Process:
    • Individuals have the right to apply for asylum or other relief from deportation, which can delay or prevent removal.

5. Enforcement Challenges

  • Immigration Detention Limits:
    • If a country refuses to accept its citizen, the U.S. may not be able to detain the individual indefinitely.
    • The U.S. Supreme Court decision in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) established that immigrants cannot be detained beyond a presumptively reasonable period (six months) if deportation is not reasonably foreseeable.

Conclusion

While the United States has legal and diplomatic tools to encourage countries to accept their citizens, it cannot compel compliance. Success often depends on the willingness of the receiving nation, international agreements, and geopolitical factors. When countries refuse to cooperate, deportation efforts can be delayed or halted, highlighting the complex interplay of law, diplomacy, and international relations in immigration enforcement.
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So, your saying US immigration law is dependant on other countries compliance? Really? We can't enforce our laws unless other countries allow it? I say we don't give them a choice. Take all the illegals and bring them down to the order and make it...desirable for them to escape back into their own country.....
 
We could just shoot them as invaders. Why make this more difficult than this has to be..?
I live in a bright red county in a blue state. Catholic charities is preparing for an influx of illegal immigrants by building a massive apartment complex for our county that has virtually no homeless and very small population. The greatest thing about it is that the coservative city government allowed them to build it-----wait for it------directly across the street from the CBP complex. LMAO, they won't have to go far to round up the illegals.
 
But Mexican's aren't really the problem at this point, it's people from other countries.
WTF…are you trying to be laughed at? Have you been to Lost Angeles or ANY other brown infested disgusting shithole?
Mexican’s, central and south Americans are our biggest problem…All must be eradicated.
Nobody sane gives two-shits about the 73 Kiwis that overstayed a visa.
Check out all these dangerous Kiwis.
 
This mass deportation effort involves multiple steps and I haven't heard yet how they plan to accomplish anything other than terrorizing folks with the roundup:
  1. Identifying those in the country unlawfully
    a. Identifying those whose locations are known
  2. Identifying destinations for deportees
  3. Identifying means of transport
Since this is not my job the above is all I could come up with off the top of my head but the following is an explanation as to why this process is not as straight forward as we have been led to believe:

The United States can request that other nations accept their citizens who are subject to deportation, but it cannot unilaterally compel compliance. The success of such efforts depends on international law, diplomatic relations, and the cooperation of the receiving country. Here's an overview:

1. International Obligations

  • Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (1963):
    • This treaty outlines the framework for consular relations between independent countries, including the obligation to accept the return of their nationals.
    • The U.S. can notify the consulate of the individual's home country and request travel documents to facilitate deportation.
  • Domestic Immigration Law:
    • U.S. immigration laws authorize the deportation of individuals unlawfully present or otherwise removable.
    • Deportation requires the receiving country's cooperation to issue necessary travel documents, such as passports or emergency travel certificates.

2. Challenges in Enforcing Returns

  • Non-Cooperation by Receiving Countries:
    • Some nations delay or refuse to accept deportees, citing issues like lack of proper identification, disputed citizenship, or political reasons.
    • For example, countries like China have historically been less cooperative in accepting deportees.
  • Stateless Individuals:
    • Deportation becomes more complicated if the individual cannot be definitively linked to a country of citizenship.

3. U.S. Actions to Encourage Compliance

The U.S. employs several strategies to encourage other nations to cooperate with deportations:
  • Visa Sanctions:
    • Under Section 243(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), the U.S. can suspend the issuance of visas to citizens of countries that refuse or unreasonably delay accepting deportees.
    • In 2017, the U.S. imposed visa sanctions on countries like Eritrea, Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Cambodia for non-cooperation.
  • Diplomatic Pressure:
    • The U.S. engages in bilateral negotiations to encourage compliance, sometimes offering foreign aid or other concessions in exchange for cooperation.
  • Repatriation Agreements:
    • The U.S. enters into formal agreements with some countries to streamline the deportation process, including timelines and procedures for issuing travel documents.

4. Human Rights Considerations

  • Non-Refoulement Principle:
    • International law prohibits deporting individuals to countries where they would face persecution, torture, or other inhumane treatment.
    • This principle is codified in U.S. law under the Refugee Act of 1980.
  • Asylum and Due Process:
    • Individuals have the right to apply for asylum or other relief from deportation, which can delay or prevent removal.

5. Enforcement Challenges

  • Immigration Detention Limits:
    • If a country refuses to accept its citizen, the U.S. may not be able to detain the individual indefinitely.
    • The U.S. Supreme Court decision in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) established that immigrants cannot be detained beyond a presumptively reasonable period (six months) if deportation is not reasonably foreseeable.

Conclusion

While the United States has legal and diplomatic tools to encourage countries to accept their citizens, it cannot compel compliance. Success often depends on the willingness of the receiving nation, international agreements, and geopolitical factors. When countries refuse to cooperate, deportation efforts can be delayed or halted, highlighting the complex interplay of law, diplomacy, and international relations in immigration enforcement.
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Put parachutes on them and push 'em out the door.
 
Paying a steep price is still not them being returned to where they came from.

I guess we'll all just have to wait this out & see. I'm not saying that Trump is not going to follow through on his promise, I'm just saying I don't believe it's straight forward & easy as it's been made out to be.

And then there is still that pesky problem of the ones that are roaming the country with no picture ID and are allowed to board commercial aircraft by only showing their summons to appear. What kind of crap is that?
It's crap that proves Democrats hate America.
 
Everything is not out of wack. Only uneducated blue collar workers are not making enough. College educated people make around $80K. Uneducated make around $50K. They are struggling. Meanwhile their bosses are doing better than ever.

America is GREAT.
Skilled tradesmen can earn 6 figures after two years of community/technical college.
 
This mass deportation effort involves multiple steps and I haven't heard yet how they plan to accomplish anything other than terrorizing folks with the roundup:
  1. Identifying those in the country unlawfully
    a. Identifying those whose locations are known
  2. Identifying destinations for deportees
  3. Identifying means of transport
Since this is not my job the above is all I could come up with off the top of my head but the following is an explanation as to why this process is not as straight forward as we have been led to believe:

The United States can request that other nations accept their citizens who are subject to deportation, but it cannot unilaterally compel compliance. The success of such efforts depends on international law, diplomatic relations, and the cooperation of the receiving country. Here's an overview:

1. International Obligations

  • Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (1963):
    • This treaty outlines the framework for consular relations between independent countries, including the obligation to accept the return of their nationals.
    • The U.S. can notify the consulate of the individual's home country and request travel documents to facilitate deportation.
  • Domestic Immigration Law:
    • U.S. immigration laws authorize the deportation of individuals unlawfully present or otherwise removable.
    • Deportation requires the receiving country's cooperation to issue necessary travel documents, such as passports or emergency travel certificates.

2. Challenges in Enforcing Returns

  • Non-Cooperation by Receiving Countries:
    • Some nations delay or refuse to accept deportees, citing issues like lack of proper identification, disputed citizenship, or political reasons.
    • For example, countries like China have historically been less cooperative in accepting deportees.
  • Stateless Individuals:
    • Deportation becomes more complicated if the individual cannot be definitively linked to a country of citizenship.

3. U.S. Actions to Encourage Compliance

The U.S. employs several strategies to encourage other nations to cooperate with deportations:
  • Visa Sanctions:
    • Under Section 243(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), the U.S. can suspend the issuance of visas to citizens of countries that refuse or unreasonably delay accepting deportees.
    • In 2017, the U.S. imposed visa sanctions on countries like Eritrea, Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Cambodia for non-cooperation.
  • Diplomatic Pressure:
    • The U.S. engages in bilateral negotiations to encourage compliance, sometimes offering foreign aid or other concessions in exchange for cooperation.
  • Repatriation Agreements:
    • The U.S. enters into formal agreements with some countries to streamline the deportation process, including timelines and procedures for issuing travel documents.

4. Human Rights Considerations

  • Non-Refoulement Principle:
    • International law prohibits deporting individuals to countries where they would face persecution, torture, or other inhumane treatment.
    • This principle is codified in U.S. law under the Refugee Act of 1980.
  • Asylum and Due Process:
    • Individuals have the right to apply for asylum or other relief from deportation, which can delay or prevent removal.

5. Enforcement Challenges

  • Immigration Detention Limits:
    • If a country refuses to accept its citizen, the U.S. may not be able to detain the individual indefinitely.
    • The U.S. Supreme Court decision in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) established that immigrants cannot be detained beyond a presumptively reasonable period (six months) if deportation is not reasonably foreseeable.

Conclusion

While the United States has legal and diplomatic tools to encourage countries to accept their citizens, it cannot compel compliance. Success often depends on the willingness of the receiving nation, international agreements, and geopolitical factors. When countries refuse to cooperate, deportation efforts can be delayed or halted, highlighting the complex interplay of law, diplomacy, and international relations in immigration enforcement.
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No country will want to go against Trump so, they will take their own people back.

Above all, BEFORE we can make any reforms to our immigration system we need to SHUT DOWN THE BORDER. We should NOT overtly welcome anyone like Biden did along with opening our border, that was insane. Unfortunately, for now, we have millions of unknowns here so we really need to have a course of action like the following.

1) Send convicted illegal criminals back.
2) Offer illegal aliens in the U.S. the chance to not be deported if they register.
3) Issue them a registration card.
4) Any illegal alien caught with no card is immediately deported.
5) Expand immigration courts and start processing aliens with cards.

Most importantly, vet them, investigate their claims, etc. We have the infrastructure to do that. It will, of course, take a while but sometimes it takes a while to undo the evil that others have created.
 
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You see, this is where you are confused.

They came here because a white person was willing to give them a job.

A white person was willing to give them a job because they work harder for less money than other white people.

See how that works?
The white people who offered them "jobs" were Democrats. And the "jobs" were living fat on taxpayer money and voting Democrat.

See how that works?

No. You don't. Because you're stupid.
 
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