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It is truly sad what the media and leaders REALLY don't talk about.

“From 1994 to 2015, white-on-white violence (down 79%) and black-on-black violence (down 78%) declined at a similar rate.”

This information comes from a report issued in October of 2017 by the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics. The title is “Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15.” This report shows that from 1994 to 2015, while the Fox News prime time lineup, and most American media were promoting a narrative of high black-on-black crime, the reality is that black-on-black crime decreased. It also shows that most crimes are intra-racial and that whites were victimized primarily by other whites in similar percentages.

“During 2012-15, there were no differences among white, black, and Hispanic intraracial victimizations reported to police.”

These facts show the utter nonsense racist whites share relative to the issue of black-on-black crime. This information kills the claim by the racist subculture that blacks don’t take responsibility for crime due to the arduous work of unknown, not-so-famous blacks toiling in obscurity in cities/towns all over this country. These are the stories that rarely get told by the media.

On August 15, 2013, The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice published a paper by Mike Males titled, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests.” Americans tend to create nostalgia about the past. The fact is that the good old days never were. I say this as a black citizen of this country, but the “good old days” never existed for anyone. Males points this out in his report. “For nearly all serious and minor offenses, including homicide, rates among black teenagers nationally were lower in 2011 than when racial statistics were first collected nationally in 1964. Black youths’ murder arrest rates are considerably lower today than back when Bill Cosby was funny (long, long ago).”

We keep reading racist trash about black crime despite the reduction in black crime.

Whites lead the nation in crime every year and the excuse of there are more of us is simply an argument that has no merit.

So why aren't more people talking about white on white crime instead of always making excuses, dodges, deflections and whataboutisms?

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In 2020 blacks led in arrests in 2 categories in the Uniform Crime Report let’s look at the arrest categories whites led in:

Rape, Aggravated assault, Burglary, Larceny-theft, Motor vehicle theft, Arson, Violent crime, Property crime, Other assaults, Forgery and counterfeiting, Fraud, Embezzlement, buying, receiving, and possessing stolen property, Vandalism, carrying, possessing, Weapons, Prostitution and commercialized vice, Sex offenses besides rape and prostitution, Drug abuse violations, Gambling, Offenses against the family and children, Driving under the influence, Liquor laws, Drunkenness, Disorderly conduct, Vagrancy, All other offenses (except traffic), Suspicion, Curfew and loitering law violations.

Whites led in 28 categories of crime. There are 30 listed by the FBI.

In 2020, Whites were 51 percent of the offenders for all crimes committed in America. A white offender committed Fifty-four percent of the crimes against persons. Whites committed most property crimes (42%) and crimes against society (65%). Seven out of every ten arrests for crimes in America is on someone white. Whites have a history of criminal behavior that started at the very beginning of this country. Whites have elected numerous criminals to make laws in this country. Whites organized crime and made it a corporate business. Whites control the manufacturing, shipment, and distribution of drugs in this country. Whites made two of the most destructive drugs legal, creating millions of addicted citizens. I am talking about alcohol and nicotine. Whites have embezzled and scammed people out of trillions of dollars in the years America has been a country. Whites control the manufacturing, shipping, sales, and distribution of deadly weapons in this country. I am not trying to blame all whites for these things. Americans with good sense should understand that I am just stating the truth based on history. This cannot continue to be excused by saying "there are more of us."


Rachel E. Morgan, U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs Bureau of Justice Statistics, Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15, https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Arrests by Race and Ethnicity, 2020 Table 43

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, FBI Releases 2020 Incident-Based (NIBRS) Data | Federal Bureau of Investigation
 

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It is truly sad what the media and leaders REALLY don't talk about.

“From 1994 to 2015, white-on-white violence (down 79%) and black-on-black violence (down 78%) declined at a similar rate.”

This information comes from a report issued in October of 2017 by the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics. The title is “Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15.” This report shows that from 1994 to 2015, while the Fox News prime time lineup, and most American media were promoting a narrative of high black-on-black crime, the reality is that black-on-black crime decreased. It also shows that most crimes are intra-racial and that whites were victimized primarily by other whites in similar percentages.

“During 2012-15, there were no differences among white, black, and Hispanic intraracial victimizations reported to police.”

These facts show the utter nonsense racist whites share relative to the issue of black-on-black crime. This information kills the claim by the racist subculture that blacks don’t take responsibility for crime due to the arduous work of unknown, not-so-famous blacks toiling in obscurity in cities/towns all over this country. These are the stories that rarely get told by the media.

On August 15, 2013, The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice published a paper by Mike Males titled, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests.” Americans tend to create nostalgia about the past. The fact is that the good old days never were. I say this as a black citizen of this country, but the “good old days” never existed for anyone. Males points this out in his report. “For nearly all serious and minor offenses, including homicide, rates among black teenagers nationally were lower in 2011 than when racial statistics were first collected nationally in 1964. Black youths’ murder arrest rates are considerably lower today than back when Bill Cosby was funny (long, long ago).”

We keep reading racist trash about black crime despite the reduction in black crime.

Whites lead the nation in crime every year and the excuse of there are more of us is simply an argument that has no merit.

So why aren't more people talking about white on white crime instead of always making excuses, dodges, deflections and whataboutisms?

View attachment 664528

In 2020 blacks led in arrests in 2 categories in the Uniform Crime Report let’s look at the arrest categories whites led in:

Rape, Aggravated assault, Burglary, Larceny-theft, Motor vehicle theft, Arson, Violent crime, Property crime, Other assaults, Forgery and counterfeiting, Fraud, Embezzlement, buying, receiving, and possessing stolen property, Vandalism, carrying, possessing, Weapons, Prostitution and commercialized vice, Sex offenses besides rape and prostitution, Drug abuse violations, Gambling, Offenses against the family and children, Driving under the influence, Liquor laws, Drunkenness, Disorderly conduct, Vagrancy, All other offenses (except traffic), Suspicion, Curfew and loitering law violations.

Whites led in 28 categories of crime. There are 30 listed by the FBI.

In 2020, Whites were 51 percent of the offenders for all crimes committed in America. A white offender committed Fifty-four percent of the crimes against persons. Whites committed most property crimes (42%) and crimes against society (65%). Seven out of every ten arrests for crimes in America is on someone white. Whites have a history of criminal behavior that started at the very beginning of this country. Whites have elected numerous criminals to make laws in this country. Whites organized crime and made it a corporate business. Whites control the manufacturing, shipment, and distribution of drugs in this country. Whites made two of the most destructive drugs legal, creating millions of addicted citizens. I am talking about alcohol and nicotine. Whites have embezzled and scammed people out of trillions of dollars in the years America has been a country. Whites control the manufacturing, shipping, sales, and distribution of deadly weapons in this country. I am not trying to blame all whites for these things. Americans with good sense should understand that I am just stating the truth based on history. This cannot continue to be excused by saying "there are more of us."


Rachel E. Morgan, U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs Bureau of Justice Statistics, Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15, https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Arrests by Race and Ethnicity, 2020 Table 43

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, FBI Releases 2020 Incident-Based (NIBRS) Data | Federal Bureau of Investigation
Because the FBI statistics do not differentiate between Latinos and whites. The majority of “white” violent crime is actually Latinos.
 

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Because the FBI statistics do not differentiate between Latinos and whites. The majority of “white” violent crime is actually Latinos.
There are black latinos. You simply have no excuses.
 
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It is truly sad what the media and leaders REALLY don't talk about.

“From 1994 to 2015, white-on-white violence (down 79%) and black-on-black violence (down 78%) declined at a similar rate.”

This information comes from a report issued in October of 2017 by the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics. The title is “Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15.” This report shows that from 1994 to 2015, while the Fox News prime time lineup, and most American media were promoting a narrative of high black-on-black crime, the reality is that black-on-black crime decreased. It also shows that most crimes are intra-racial and that whites were victimized primarily by other whites in similar percentages.

“During 2012-15, there were no differences among white, black, and Hispanic intraracial victimizations reported to police.”

These facts show the utter nonsense racist whites share relative to the issue of black-on-black crime. This information kills the claim by the racist subculture that blacks don’t take responsibility for crime due to the arduous work of unknown, not-so-famous blacks toiling in obscurity in cities/towns all over this country. These are the stories that rarely get told by the media.

On August 15, 2013, The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice published a paper by Mike Males titled, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests.” Americans tend to create nostalgia about the past. The fact is that the good old days never were. I say this as a black citizen of this country, but the “good old days” never existed for anyone. Males points this out in his report. “For nearly all serious and minor offenses, including homicide, rates among black teenagers nationally were lower in 2011 than when racial statistics were first collected nationally in 1964. Black youths’ murder arrest rates are considerably lower today than back when Bill Cosby was funny (long, long ago).”

We keep reading racist trash about black crime despite the reduction in black crime.

Whites lead the nation in crime every year and the excuse of there are more of us is simply an argument that has no merit.

So why aren't more people talking about white on white crime instead of always making excuses, dodges, deflections and whataboutisms?

View attachment 664528

In 2020 blacks led in arrests in 2 categories in the Uniform Crime Report let’s look at the arrest categories whites led in:

Rape, Aggravated assault, Burglary, Larceny-theft, Motor vehicle theft, Arson, Violent crime, Property crime, Other assaults, Forgery and counterfeiting, Fraud, Embezzlement, buying, receiving, and possessing stolen property, Vandalism, carrying, possessing, Weapons, Prostitution and commercialized vice, Sex offenses besides rape and prostitution, Drug abuse violations, Gambling, Offenses against the family and children, Driving under the influence, Liquor laws, Drunkenness, Disorderly conduct, Vagrancy, All other offenses (except traffic), Suspicion, Curfew and loitering law violations.

Whites led in 28 categories of crime. There are 30 listed by the FBI.

In 2020, Whites were 51 percent of the offenders for all crimes committed in America. A white offender committed Fifty-four percent of the crimes against persons. Whites committed most property crimes (42%) and crimes against society (65%). Seven out of every ten arrests for crimes in America is on someone white. Whites have a history of criminal behavior that started at the very beginning of this country. Whites have elected numerous criminals to make laws in this country. Whites organized crime and made it a corporate business. Whites control the manufacturing, shipment, and distribution of drugs in this country. Whites made two of the most destructive drugs legal, creating millions of addicted citizens. I am talking about alcohol and nicotine. Whites have embezzled and scammed people out of trillions of dollars in the years America has been a country. Whites control the manufacturing, shipping, sales, and distribution of deadly weapons in this country. I am not trying to blame all whites for these things. Americans with good sense should understand that I am just stating the truth based on history. This cannot continue to be excused by saying "there are more of us."


Rachel E. Morgan, U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs Bureau of Justice Statistics, Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15, https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Arrests by Race and Ethnicity, 2020 Table 43

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, FBI Releases 2020 Incident-Based (NIBRS) Data | Federal Bureau of Investigation
Don't you live near Chicago? Or is that Paul? Anyway you should play in Pastor Brooks golf tournament on August 8th. It would be good for you to get some fresh air and support the great work he is doing to give those Chicago kids a different path in life.
 

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Blacks are 12% of the population and commit 50%± of murders and at least 33% of violent crimes.
 

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Well, wouldn't you know.

I always figured you didn't talk about black on black crime because there is just so damn much of it.
 
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Don't you live near Chicago? Or is that Paul? Anyway you should play in Pastor Brooks golf tournament on August 8th. It would be good for you to get some fresh air and support the great work he is doing to give those Chicago kids a different path in life.
Shut the hell up. Pastor Brooks isn't the only person working in the black community. Like I said, he needs to take that money and open some retail businesses. That would provide the different path really needed.

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Blacks are 12% of the population and commit 50%± of murders and at least 33% of violent crimes.

2 percent of the American population were criminal offenders in 2020. 1.09 percent of the American population were white criminal offenders, .06 percent of the American population were black criminal offenders.

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, FBI Releases 2020 Incident-Based (NIBRS) Data | Federal Bureau of Investigation
 

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It is truly sad what the media and leaders REALLY don't talk about.

“From 1994 to 2015, white-on-white violence (down 79%) and black-on-black violence (down 78%) declined at a similar rate.”

This information comes from a report issued in October of 2017 by the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics. The title is “Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15.” This report shows that from 1994 to 2015, while the Fox News prime time lineup, and most American media were promoting a narrative of high black-on-black crime, the reality is that black-on-black crime decreased. It also shows that most crimes are intra-racial and that whites were victimized primarily by other whites in similar percentages.

“During 2012-15, there were no differences among white, black, and Hispanic intraracial victimizations reported to police.”

These facts show the utter nonsense racist whites share relative to the issue of black-on-black crime. This information kills the claim by the racist subculture that blacks don’t take responsibility for crime due to the arduous work of unknown, not-so-famous blacks toiling in obscurity in cities/towns all over this country. These are the stories that rarely get told by the media.

On August 15, 2013, The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice published a paper by Mike Males titled, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests.” Americans tend to create nostalgia about the past. The fact is that the good old days never were. I say this as a black citizen of this country, but the “good old days” never existed for anyone. Males points this out in his report. “For nearly all serious and minor offenses, including homicide, rates among black teenagers nationally were lower in 2011 than when racial statistics were first collected nationally in 1964. Black youths’ murder arrest rates are considerably lower today than back when Bill Cosby was funny (long, long ago).”

We keep reading racist trash about black crime despite the reduction in black crime.

Whites lead the nation in crime every year and the excuse of there are more of us is simply an argument that has no merit.

So why aren't more people talking about white on white crime instead of always making excuses, dodges, deflections and whataboutisms?

View attachment 664528

In 2020 blacks led in arrests in 2 categories in the Uniform Crime Report let’s look at the arrest categories whites led in:

Rape, Aggravated assault, Burglary, Larceny-theft, Motor vehicle theft, Arson, Violent crime, Property crime, Other assaults, Forgery and counterfeiting, Fraud, Embezzlement, buying, receiving, and possessing stolen property, Vandalism, carrying, possessing, Weapons, Prostitution and commercialized vice, Sex offenses besides rape and prostitution, Drug abuse violations, Gambling, Offenses against the family and children, Driving under the influence, Liquor laws, Drunkenness, Disorderly conduct, Vagrancy, All other offenses (except traffic), Suspicion, Curfew and loitering law violations.

Whites led in 28 categories of crime. There are 30 listed by the FBI.

In 2020, Whites were 51 percent of the offenders for all crimes committed in America. A white offender committed Fifty-four percent of the crimes against persons. Whites committed most property crimes (42%) and crimes against society (65%). Seven out of every ten arrests for crimes in America is on someone white. Whites have a history of criminal behavior that started at the very beginning of this country. Whites have elected numerous criminals to make laws in this country. Whites organized crime and made it a corporate business. Whites control the manufacturing, shipment, and distribution of drugs in this country. Whites made two of the most destructive drugs legal, creating millions of addicted citizens. I am talking about alcohol and nicotine. Whites have embezzled and scammed people out of trillions of dollars in the years America has been a country. Whites control the manufacturing, shipping, sales, and distribution of deadly weapons in this country. I am not trying to blame all whites for these things. Americans with good sense should understand that I am just stating the truth based on history. This cannot continue to be excused by saying "there are more of us."


Rachel E. Morgan, U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs Bureau of Justice Statistics, Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-15, https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf

Mike Males, “Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests,” The Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, August 15, 2013, Why the Gigantic, Decades-Long Drop in Black Youth Crime Threatens Major Interests — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Arrests by Race and Ethnicity, 2020 Table 43

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, FBI Releases 2020 Incident-Based (NIBRS) Data | Federal Bureau of Investigation

Ok. Let's just talk about crime. Let's talk about gang crime where innocent babies are killed in their car seats in the back of Daddy's car. Let's talk about babies shot in their mothers arms. Let's talk about shootouts in the streets and in the malls of cities, big and small, and even in the cow pastures and anywhere those shootouts happen.

We can't do anything that will stop most people wh target someone they know for murder, and haven't been able to since Cain killed Abel. What we need to stop are the wild-east shootouts, random shootings, drive-by shootings, that are killing innocent people and babies.

So, please, post as many stories as you can find of wild-east shootouts in the streets and of babies being killed in random shootings and drive-by shootings and let's all agree, whether or not those nasty racists in the press mention race, let's not mention race on here at all.

Our goal is simply to get people fired up and passionate to do what needs to be done to stop those shootouts.

We can even hear from those who think disarming all of America is the only way to save the babies and we can hear from those who think arming people for self-defense will save the babies. All ideas are welcome because we all want to save babies.

But we'll agree to never mention race; it's about the babies.

Deal? You go first.
 

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We keep reading racist trash about black crime despite the reduction in black crime.
Well. I dunno. It seems to me that any civil discussion on the topic would strive to encourage substantive evidence by proponents of all points of view, rather than refering to those differing points of view as "racist trash."

Why that doesn't encourage civil dialogue at all. That's not how civil, funtional debate works. All that does is solicit more of the same kind of combative dialogue. But you know that. Right?

Anyway. As an aside, there are no so-called authoritative groups, whether black, white or whatever other color. And everyone should be able to provide differing points of view and perspectives without having to endure that brand of filth, for no other reason than the fact that you don't like those opposing views.

By the way. flacaltenn and Coyote I just noticed you two giggling among yourselves up in the feedback section and acting like children, talking about stickying complaints from the other poster about stuff just like this. To make an example of them. Do you have any self-awareness whatsoever?

If you're gonna talk the talk, you should at least have the courage to walk the walk. If you wanna be taken seriously...
 
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2 percent of the American population were criminal offenders in 2020. 1.09 percent of the American population were white criminal offenders, .06 percent of the American population were black criminal offenders.

Federal Bureau of Investigation, Crime in the United States, Offenders by Race and Ethnicity, 2020, FBI Releases 2020 Incident-Based (NIBRS) Data | Federal Bureau of Investigation
So there were roughly half as many black criminal offenders as white ones. There are roughly one fifth as many black Americans as White Americans. We are back to that pesky FACT that less than one fifth of the total population provides more than half the criminal offenders. As usual you just shot yourself in the foot.
 

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We won't be discussing that sorry dodge using per capita.
I agree. No matter what the facts show, I defend your right to tell the story you wish was true instead of discussing what is actually true. You know, that whole 1st Amendment thing. I may know that what you're saying isn't true and that you know it isn't true, but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it.
 

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Well. I dunno. It seems to me that any civil discussion on the topic would strive to encourage substantive evidence by proponents of all points of view, rather than refering to those differing points of view as "racist trash."

Why that doesn't encourage civil dialogue at all. All that does is solicit more of the same kind of combative dialogue. But you now that. Right?

Anyway. As an aside, There are no so-called authoritative groups, whether black, white or whatever other color.

By the way. flacaltenn and Coyote I just noticed you two giggling among yourselves up in the feedback section and acting like children about stickying complaints from the other poster about stuff like this.

If you're gonna talk the talk, you should at least have the courage to walk the walk. If you wanna be taken seriously...
A civil discussion would also not have posters telling others to "shut up", yet there it is.




Privilege. Some have it and some don't.
 

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Shut the hell up. Pastor Brooks isn't the only person working in the black community. Like I said, he needs to take that money and open some retail businesses. That would provide the different path really needed.
Opening retail businesses would definitely provide more employment opportunities.... for armed robbers along with BLM and Antifa rioters. There are some very sad stories in the links below.




I understand why you wouldn't do something actually helpful like supporting Pastor Brooks. That would take away from your time here blaming whitey for all your problems.
 

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Here are some black men doing something useful during the summer of love riots. Armed and patrolling their streets. That's how you stop crime on any streets of any neighborhood: Armed local residents defending their homes.

 

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