This is what the elite democrats want for women. Woman who had RU 486 abortion describes it

[EvilCat Breath]

Except it isn't alive. It cannot survive without being attached to the uterine wall.

Legally, fetuses aren't people, nor are they people in medical science. It's why doctors abort fetuses all the time if they pose a medical threat to the woman's health.

It is alive. How hard you fight against basic science. It has a circulatory system, a beating heart, brainwaves. It's body takes in nourishment and processes its waste. Legally fetuses are human beings. Because they are nothing else. There is no separate non human species. It's just acceptable to kill them.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Actually it is acceptable to kill a fetus most of the time. Depending on certain circumstances fetuscide could be murder. Scott Peterson comes to mind.

 

[JoeB131]

It is alive. How hard you fight against basic science. It has a circulatory system, a beating heart, brainwaves. It's body takes in nourishment and processes its waste. Legally fetuses are human beings. Because they are nothing else. There is no separate non human species. It's just acceptable to kill them.

Actually, they aren't legally human beings. You don't count fetuses on the census, you can't claim a fetus as a tax deduction. Even when abortion was illegal, it wasn't charged as murder. None of the new laws calls for charging an abortionist with murder.

Actually it is acceptable to kill a fetus most of the time. Depending on certain circumstances fetuscide could be murder. Scott Peterson comes to mind.

YOu mean the guy who was sent to prison on no actual physical evidence because people thought he was a creep for stepping out on his pregnant wife?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Actually, they aren't legally human beings. You don't count fetuses on the census, you can't claim a fetus as a tax deduction. Even when abortion was illegal, it wasn't charged as murder. None of the new laws calls for charging an abortionist with murder.



YOu mean the guy who was sent to prison on no actual physical evidence because people thought he was a creep for stepping out on his pregnant wife?

Oh please a fetus is a human being because it isn't anything else. You have yet to identify the species that you believe a fetus belongs to. Not to even mention, the DNA is entirely human.

The moral status of a human fetus: a response to Lee - PubMed

It is an undeniable empirical fact that a human fetus is a member of the species homo sapiens from the moment of conception. There is thus an important sense in which it is a human being in itself, and not simply part of a pregnant woman's body, despite what defenders of abortion on demand might...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I cannot say I entirely agree with this article. I do not agree with conception as the beginning of life. The entire concept of killing this human life is an allowable act the limits of which are under consideration. Finding excuses and massaging the biology is entirely unnecessary. Just say Abortion is the killing of a human being and you're okay with that.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Try this. It's the federal law
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law that recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[1]

Legally, biologically and morally the unborn are human beings. You can still kill them in most places without penalty.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh please a fetus is a human being because it isn't anything else. You have yet to identify the species that you believe a fetus belongs to. Not to even mention, the DNA is entirely human.

My toenail has human DNA, but I'm still going to clip it when it gets too long.

Try this. It's the federal law
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law that recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[1]

Legally, biologically and morally the unborn are human beings. You can still kill them in most places without penalty.

It's a crap law that has already been used to go after women who have had miscarriages.

This is the problem with making fetuses "people"... you have to give them more rights than the people they are inside.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Anyone claiming abortion after like week 14 is not murder is going through crazy mental gymnastics.

If you claim it is ok to murder a newborn ON THE TABLE AT BIRTH, you are a straight up demon.

 

[JoeB131]

Anyone claiming abortion after like week 14 is not murder is going through crazy mental gymnastics.

If you claim it is ok to murder a newborn ON THE TABLE AT BIRTH, you are a straight up demon.

A 14 week fetus isn't viable, so it's not murder.

A fetus doesn't become remotely viable until week 21. (If you consider a lifetime of mental and physical disabilities "viable".)

 

[Dragonlady]

Leftism is a death cult.

Republicans are sending women home to have their miscarriages and bleed out in public washrooms.

The death rate for women from the complications of pregnancy - already the highest in the first world, has doubled in red states which banned abortion.

With 3% of the world's population, the USA had 16% of the world's death from covid, and Republicans are still telling their voters that the vaccines will kill them. Why aren't Canadians dropping like flies? We're more than 80% vaccinated. Our death rate from covid is 1/3 that of the USA.

Now, Republicans are REFUSING to do anything about border security, because Donald Trump wants to use it as an election issue. Why are House Republicans refusing to do right by the American people, in favour of helping Donald Trump get re-elected.

 

[martybegan]

As little government as possible. Therein lies the grief. Women today are just not acquainted with the whole idea of loving their children. They have many other things on their minds. The least of which is a hostile culture that regards women as.... Actually it doesn't regard them at all. At worst they are denigrated as Trads.

The Real Tradwives: Why More Young Moms Are Becoming Traditional Housewives

Tradwives are celebrating a return to traditional gender roles — and want you to celebrate, too.

katiecouric.com

I think the last few waves of feminism jumped the shark when they went from "women can be what they want to be" to "women have to be what we think women should be"

 

[1miseryindex]

It is alive. How hard you fight against basic science. It has a circulatory system, a beating heart, brainwaves. It's body takes in nourishment and processes its waste. Legally fetuses are human beings. Because they are nothing else. There is no separate non human species. It's just acceptable to kill them.

well said.. An unborn child's DNA is totally different from the mother... basic science, basic common sense

it is not part of her body. And if she didn't want him/her there, she could have avoided that. While we are teaching children in school stupidass things like How to hate your given gender

we could be teaching them what an awesome responsibility it is to engage in SEX without protection of a good (committed) marriage..

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I think the last few waves of feminism jumped the shark when they went from "women can be what they want to be" to "women have to be what we think women should be"

We passed that awhile ago. Now it's "women can be whatever men let them be". Today, men let women be very little.

 

[citygator]

Is that your word of the day?

The righties on here just act offended when they really just sit in their mother's basement being an incel and acting like there is a crisis.

 

[martybegan]

We passed that awhile ago. Now it's "women can be whatever men let them be". Today, men let women be very little.

We would have also accepted "Leftists think that only men can be true women"

 

[1miseryindex]

Actually it is acceptable to kill a fetus most of the time. Depending on certain circumstances fetuscide could be murder. Scott Peterson comes to mind.

Why, just because the mother wanted the child?

Does one's value come from humans? But even if you don't believe it comes from God bc you don't believe in God

No society on Earth, one must remember, condones murder of children (or anyone else)

If we let one group of people decide life or death for another group

we have lost it

(civilization)

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We would have also accepted "Leftists think that only men can be true women"

We accepted that a man, no matter how hideous is more beautiful than the most beautiful woman.
The beauty contest winner.

 

[martybegan]

We accepted that a man, no matter how hideous is more beautiful than the most beautiful woman.
The beauty contest winner.
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[JoeB131]

well said.. An unborn child's DNA is totally different from the mother... basic science, basic common sense

The same can be said of the 2/3rd of zygotes that never attach to the uterine wall. But we don't have little coffins for tampons.

it is not part of her body.

It is when it attaches to her uterine wall.

And if she didn't want him/her there, she could have avoided that. While we are teaching children in school stupidass things like How to hate your given gender

Ah, and now we get to the heart of it, it's about those damned women controlling their biological destiny.

I mean, we know you wingnuts don't actually care about kids. You wouldn't keep cutting school lunches to give tax breaks to billionaires if you did.

we could be teaching them what an awesome responsibility it is to engage in SEX without protection of a good (committed) marriage..

Sure, you can teach that, but you are fighting against millions of years of evolution, hardwiring us to get laid.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why, just because the mother wanted the child?

Does one's value come from humans? But even if you don't believe it comes from God bc you don't believe in God

No society on Earth, one must remember, condones murder of children (or anyone else)

If we let one group of people decide life or death for another group

we have lost it

(civilization)

No society. Really? The United States condons the murder of unborn human beings. It condones the mutilation, drugging and exploitation of children.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The same can be said of the 2/3rd of zygotes that never attach to the uterine wall. But we don't have little coffins for tampons.



It is when it attaches to her uterine wall.


Ah, and now we get to the heart of it, it's about those damned women controlling their biological destiny.

I mean, we know you wingnuts don't actually care about kids. You wouldn't keep cutting school lunches to give tax breaks to billionaires if you did.


Sure, you can teach that, but you are fighting against millions of years of evolution, hardwiring us to get laid.

Excellent argument for killing human beings. You're okay with that. It's perfectly acceptable. It isn't a criticism.