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This is a great idea……increase the penalties for someone who steals a gun…the guy at Extranosalley suggests 5 years per gun no parole….perfect….I completely support this idea….steal 3 guns, 15 years no parole…..see how soon thugs stop stealing or spend more time in the clink…
There Is A Bill That Needs An Urgent Push | Extrano's Alley, more than a gun blog
he Dover, New Hampshire Democrat reports two New Hampshire lawmakers want to increase the penalty for the theft of a firearm.
Given that stolen guns enable some 360,000 gun related crimes a year, the usual “petty larceny” penalties for stealing a collection is woefully inadequate. My personal suggestion is five years per gun, with no probation or parole, ever. If someone steals three guns fifteen years is a moderate penalty compared to the potential lifetime criminal misuse of a gun will sentence a law abiding citizen to.
To the linked news story…..
N.H. bill would up punishment for stealing guns in burglary
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Two New Hampshire lawmakers are co-sponsoring a bill that makes the theft of a gun during a burglary a more serious crime with more jail time.The bill from Republican Al Baldasaro of Londonderry and Democrat Katherine Rogers of Concord would add "theft of a gun" to a list of crimes considered the worst of burglaries.It raises the punishment from a Class B felony to a Class A felony, which means convicts face an additional 20 years in jail for the theft. They say the approach is consistent with other New Hampshire laws that carry stiffer penalties for crimes committed when a gun is involved.The bill will be heard by the House Criminal Justice Committee on at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in the Legislative Office Building.
How much do you want to bet anti gunners will fight this…..?
I got a better one
You sell a gun to a criminal...YOU get 5 years no parole for each gun you sell
How does the seller know what future crime the buyer will commit?
If he was a choir boy when you sold the gun, you get off scott free
If he was a convicted criminal and you sell him a gun, you should go to jail
Agree?
No, you shouldn't…..you are not a cop, and guns are a legal product. Arrest the guy who bought the gun illegally, he is the criminal.
gee...how do you keep that from happening? better gun registration and keeping people like you from buying/selling guns privately
This is a great idea……increase the penalties for someone who steals a gun…the guy at Extranosalley suggests 5 years per gun no parole….perfect….I completely support this idea….steal 3 guns, 15 years no parole…..see how soon thugs stop stealing or spend more time in the clink…
There Is A Bill That Needs An Urgent Push | Extrano's Alley, more than a gun blog
he Dover, New Hampshire Democrat reports two New Hampshire lawmakers want to increase the penalty for the theft of a firearm.
Given that stolen guns enable some 360,000 gun related crimes a year, the usual “petty larceny” penalties for stealing a collection is woefully inadequate. My personal suggestion is five years per gun, with no probation or parole, ever. If someone steals three guns fifteen years is a moderate penalty compared to the potential lifetime criminal misuse of a gun will sentence a law abiding citizen to.
To the linked news story…..
N.H. bill would up punishment for stealing guns in burglary
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Two New Hampshire lawmakers are co-sponsoring a bill that makes the theft of a gun during a burglary a more serious crime with more jail time.The bill from Republican Al Baldasaro of Londonderry and Democrat Katherine Rogers of Concord would add "theft of a gun" to a list of crimes considered the worst of burglaries.It raises the punishment from a Class B felony to a Class A felony, which means convicts face an additional 20 years in jail for the theft. They say the approach is consistent with other New Hampshire laws that carry stiffer penalties for crimes committed when a gun is involved.The bill will be heard by the House Criminal Justice Committee on at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in the Legislative Office Building.
How much do you want to bet anti gunners will fight this…..?
I got a better one
You sell a gun to a criminal...YOU get 5 years no parole for each gun you sell
How does the seller know what future crime the buyer will commit?
If he was a choir boy when you sold the gun, you get off scott free
If he was a convicted criminal and you sell him a gun, you should go to jail
Agree?
that is already the law
I have a better idea... don't give guns to spouse and child abusers and people convicted of violent crime....or people who are crazies.
gee...how do you keep that from happening? better gun registration and keeping people like you from buying/selling guns privately
This is a great idea……increase the penalties for someone who steals a gun…the guy at Extranosalley suggests 5 years per gun no parole….perfect….I completely support this idea….steal 3 guns, 15 years no parole…..see how soon thugs stop stealing or spend more time in the clink…
There Is A Bill That Needs An Urgent Push | Extrano's Alley, more than a gun blog
he Dover, New Hampshire Democrat reports two New Hampshire lawmakers want to increase the penalty for the theft of a firearm.
Given that stolen guns enable some 360,000 gun related crimes a year, the usual “petty larceny” penalties for stealing a collection is woefully inadequate. My personal suggestion is five years per gun, with no probation or parole, ever. If someone steals three guns fifteen years is a moderate penalty compared to the potential lifetime criminal misuse of a gun will sentence a law abiding citizen to.
To the linked news story…..
N.H. bill would up punishment for stealing guns in burglary
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Two New Hampshire lawmakers are co-sponsoring a bill that makes the theft of a gun during a burglary a more serious crime with more jail time.The bill from Republican Al Baldasaro of Londonderry and Democrat Katherine Rogers of Concord would add "theft of a gun" to a list of crimes considered the worst of burglaries.It raises the punishment from a Class B felony to a Class A felony, which means convicts face an additional 20 years in jail for the theft. They say the approach is consistent with other New Hampshire laws that carry stiffer penalties for crimes committed when a gun is involved.The bill will be heard by the House Criminal Justice Committee on at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in the Legislative Office Building.
How much do you want to bet anti gunners will fight this…..?
I got a better one
You sell a gun to a criminal...YOU get 5 years no parole for each gun you sell
How does the seller know what future crime the buyer will commit?
If he was a choir boy when you sold the gun, you get off scott free
If he was a convicted criminal and you sell him a gun, you should go to jail
Agree?
that is already the law
if you sell a gun to someone privately and they commit a crime I have never heard of a law suit finding liability against the seller.
but do tell.
This is a great idea……increase the penalties for someone who steals a gun…the guy at Extranosalley suggests 5 years per gun no parole….perfect….I completely support this idea….steal 3 guns, 15 years no parole…..see how soon thugs stop stealing or spend more time in the clink…
There Is A Bill That Needs An Urgent Push | Extrano's Alley, more than a gun blog
he Dover, New Hampshire Democrat reports two New Hampshire lawmakers want to increase the penalty for the theft of a firearm.
Given that stolen guns enable some 360,000 gun related crimes a year, the usual “petty larceny” penalties for stealing a collection is woefully inadequate. My personal suggestion is five years per gun, with no probation or parole, ever. If someone steals three guns fifteen years is a moderate penalty compared to the potential lifetime criminal misuse of a gun will sentence a law abiding citizen to.
To the linked news story…..
N.H. bill would up punishment for stealing guns in burglary
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Two New Hampshire lawmakers are co-sponsoring a bill that makes the theft of a gun during a burglary a more serious crime with more jail time.The bill from Republican Al Baldasaro of Londonderry and Democrat Katherine Rogers of Concord would add "theft of a gun" to a list of crimes considered the worst of burglaries.It raises the punishment from a Class B felony to a Class A felony, which means convicts face an additional 20 years in jail for the theft. They say the approach is consistent with other New Hampshire laws that carry stiffer penalties for crimes committed when a gun is involved.The bill will be heard by the House Criminal Justice Committee on at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in the Legislative Office Building.
How much do you want to bet anti gunners will fight this…..?
I got a better one
You sell a gun to a criminal...YOU get 5 years no parole for each gun you sell
How does the seller know what future crime the buyer will commit?
If he was a choir boy when you sold the gun, you get off scott free
If he was a convicted criminal and you sell him a gun, you should go to jail
Agree?
that is already the law
Good...according to the OP
5 years no parole...agree?
I have a better idea... don't give guns to spouse and child abusers and people convicted of violent crime....or people who are crazies.
gee...how do you keep that from happening? better gun registration and keeping people like you from buying/selling guns privately
How does registration prevent criminals from getting guns?
This is a great idea……increase the penalties for someone who steals a gun…the guy at Extranosalley suggests 5 years per gun no parole….perfect….I completely support this idea….steal 3 guns, 15 years no parole…..see how soon thugs stop stealing or spend more time in the clink…
There Is A Bill That Needs An Urgent Push | Extrano's Alley, more than a gun blog
he Dover, New Hampshire Democrat reports two New Hampshire lawmakers want to increase the penalty for the theft of a firearm.
Given that stolen guns enable some 360,000 gun related crimes a year, the usual “petty larceny” penalties for stealing a collection is woefully inadequate. My personal suggestion is five years per gun, with no probation or parole, ever. If someone steals three guns fifteen years is a moderate penalty compared to the potential lifetime criminal misuse of a gun will sentence a law abiding citizen to.
To the linked news story…..
N.H. bill would up punishment for stealing guns in burglary
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Two New Hampshire lawmakers are co-sponsoring a bill that makes the theft of a gun during a burglary a more serious crime with more jail time.The bill from Republican Al Baldasaro of Londonderry and Democrat Katherine Rogers of Concord would add "theft of a gun" to a list of crimes considered the worst of burglaries.It raises the punishment from a Class B felony to a Class A felony, which means convicts face an additional 20 years in jail for the theft. They say the approach is consistent with other New Hampshire laws that carry stiffer penalties for crimes committed when a gun is involved.The bill will be heard by the House Criminal Justice Committee on at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in the Legislative Office Building.
How much do you want to bet anti gunners will fight this…..?
I got a better one
You sell a gun to a criminal...YOU get 5 years no parole for each gun you sell
Dumb idea. Why is it you guys always focus on the normal, law abiding gun owner…..that is your whole focus….you really hate them don't you?
I got a better one
You sell a gun to a criminal...YOU get 5 years no parole for each gun you sell
How does the seller know what future crime the buyer will commit?
If he was a choir boy when you sold the gun, you get off scott free
If he was a convicted criminal and you sell him a gun, you should go to jail
Agree?
that is already the law
Good...according to the OP
5 years no parole...agree?
like laws get enforced in this country
How much do you want to bet anti gunners will fight this…..?
As long as you agree to pony up the money in taxes required to incarcerate those people in your area since our prison system is already overcrowded. Sound like a deal?
It is cheaper to keep them in jail than to have them creating carnage outside.
Actually it is more expensive in the long run. You do realize how much it costs to keep a person incarcerated don't you?
How does the seller know what future crime the buyer will commit?
If he was a choir boy when you sold the gun, you get off scott free
If he was a convicted criminal and you sell him a gun, you should go to jail
Agree?
that is already the law
Good...according to the OP
5 years no parole...agree?
like laws get enforced in this country
We have 2,5 million people in prison....seems like our laws are enforced
This is a great idea……increase the penalties for someone who steals a gun…the guy at Extranosalley suggests 5 years per gun no parole….perfect….I completely support this idea….steal 3 guns, 15 years no parole…..see how soon thugs stop stealing or spend more time in the clink…
There Is A Bill That Needs An Urgent Push | Extrano's Alley, more than a gun blog
he Dover, New Hampshire Democrat reports two New Hampshire lawmakers want to increase the penalty for the theft of a firearm.
Given that stolen guns enable some 360,000 gun related crimes a year, the usual “petty larceny” penalties for stealing a collection is woefully inadequate. My personal suggestion is five years per gun, with no probation or parole, ever. If someone steals three guns fifteen years is a moderate penalty compared to the potential lifetime criminal misuse of a gun will sentence a law abiding citizen to.
To the linked news story…..
N.H. bill would up punishment for stealing guns in burglary
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Two New Hampshire lawmakers are co-sponsoring a bill that makes the theft of a gun during a burglary a more serious crime with more jail time.The bill from Republican Al Baldasaro of Londonderry and Democrat Katherine Rogers of Concord would add "theft of a gun" to a list of crimes considered the worst of burglaries.It raises the punishment from a Class B felony to a Class A felony, which means convicts face an additional 20 years in jail for the theft. They say the approach is consistent with other New Hampshire laws that carry stiffer penalties for crimes committed when a gun is involved.The bill will be heard by the House Criminal Justice Committee on at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in the Legislative Office Building.
How much do you want to bet anti gunners will fight this…..?
I got a better one
You sell a gun to a criminal...YOU get 5 years no parole for each gun you sell
Dumb idea. Why is it you guys always focus on the normal, law abiding gun owner…..that is your whole focus….you really hate them don't you?
Normal, law abiding gun owners do not sell weapons to known criminals
If you do so....you are not a normal law abiding gun owner. You are a criminal
How much do you want to bet anti gunners will fight this…..?
As long as you agree to pony up the money in taxes required to incarcerate those people in your area since our prison system is already overcrowded. Sound like a deal?
It is cheaper to keep them in jail than to have them creating carnage outside.
Actually it is more expensive in the long run. You do realize how much it costs to keep a person incarcerated don't you?
Good, then you are volunteering to pay more in taxes for it.
How much do you want to bet anti gunners will fight this…..?
As long as you agree to pony up the money in taxes required to incarcerate those people in your area since our prison system is already overcrowded. Sound like a deal?
It is cheaper to keep them in jail than to have them creating carnage outside.
Actually it is more expensive in the long run. You do realize how much it costs to keep a person incarcerated don't you?
Good, then you are volunteering to pay more in taxes for it.
As long as you agree to pony up the money in taxes required to incarcerate those people in your area since our prison system is already overcrowded. Sound like a deal?
It is cheaper to keep them in jail than to have them creating carnage outside.
Actually it is more expensive in the long run. You do realize how much it costs to keep a person incarcerated don't you?
Good, then you are volunteering to pay more in taxes for it.
Sorry but your method is going to put MORE people in jail and that means MORE money will be needed. You also falsely pair violent crime with guns. There are many types of violent crimes committed without guns.
You either put up with more taxes or shut up.
The point is EVERYONE pays less taxes in the long run when you reduce violent crime. Less people in prison means fewer taxes to pay for them (the prisons) overall. More violent felons locked up forever means fewer cops needed to investigate their crimes which means less of them and the whole system begins to shrink. That is the point.
You keep proposing the magical solution of putting these guys in jail for long sentences. I wouldn't disagree except then I have to pay to feed and house these assholes for however many years. Where have you been, 2AGuy? states and the feds are looking at releasing non-violent offenders because they can't afford it anymore. If incarceration was actually an effective deterrent, the US wouldn't have more citizens incarcerated than any other nation in the world. We're doing something wrong already. Let's not make it wrong-er!This is a great idea……increase the penalties for someone who steals a gun…the guy at Extranosalley suggests 5 years per gun no parole….perfect….I completely support this idea….steal 3 guns, 15 years no parole…..see how soon thugs stop stealing or spend more time in the clink…
There Is A Bill That Needs An Urgent Push | Extrano's Alley, more than a gun blog
he Dover, New Hampshire Democrat reports two New Hampshire lawmakers want to increase the penalty for the theft of a firearm.
Given that stolen guns enable some 360,000 gun related crimes a year, the usual “petty larceny” penalties for stealing a collection is woefully inadequate. My personal suggestion is five years per gun, with no probation or parole, ever. If someone steals three guns fifteen years is a moderate penalty compared to the potential lifetime criminal misuse of a gun will sentence a law abiding citizen to.
To the linked news story…..
N.H. bill would up punishment for stealing guns in burglary
CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Two New Hampshire lawmakers are co-sponsoring a bill that makes the theft of a gun during a burglary a more serious crime with more jail time.The bill from Republican Al Baldasaro of Londonderry and Democrat Katherine Rogers of Concord would add "theft of a gun" to a list of crimes considered the worst of burglaries.It raises the punishment from a Class B felony to a Class A felony, which means convicts face an additional 20 years in jail for the theft. They say the approach is consistent with other New Hampshire laws that carry stiffer penalties for crimes committed when a gun is involved.The bill will be heard by the House Criminal Justice Committee on at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in the Legislative Office Building.
How much do you want to bet anti gunners will fight this…..?
I have a better idea... don't give guns to spouse and child abusers and people convicted of violent crime....or people who are crazies.
gee...how do you keep that from happening? better gun registration and keeping people like you from buying/selling guns privately
How does registration prevent criminals from getting guns?
It is cheaper to keep them in jail than to have them creating carnage outside.
Actually it is more expensive in the long run. You do realize how much it costs to keep a person incarcerated don't you?
Good, then you are volunteering to pay more in taxes for it.
Sorry but your method is going to put MORE people in jail and that means MORE money will be needed. You also falsely pair violent crime with guns. There are many types of violent crimes committed without guns.
You either put up with more taxes or shut up.
The point is EVERYONE pays less taxes in the long run when you reduce violent crime. Less people in prison means fewer taxes to pay for them (the prisons) overall. More violent felons locked up forever means fewer cops needed to investigate their crimes which means less of them and the whole system begins to shrink. That is the point.
gee...how do you keep that from happening? better gun registration and keeping people like you from buying/selling guns privately
This has been said before. Better gun registration how? What specific change, addition or deletion to gun registration would you recommend added or changed?
