This is a thread for those on the LEFT to unequivocally condemn those celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

[Concerned American]

That would be a reading comprehension error on your part.

You should read my response again, more carefully this time.

Seems to me that since you posted a question in Post #1 that Shylock refused to answer, everything else he has to say is irrelevant. Prove me wrong. RIP Charlie Kirk. Prayers and condolences to his family.

 

[Missourian]

You just asked "Is it always no? In all circumstances? 100% of the time?"
That's a question.

Yes, that was my question, asked first - as yet unanswered, only evaded.

Call me conservative, but I think questions should be answered in the order they are asked.

Fair enough. And thank you for your other reply.

Here's your answer.

I saw a man disguise himself, pretend to be on the payphone, and lie in wait to murder a handcuffed man in cold blood.

And I found it acceptable.

So, when I read your question, I could not answer truthfully that in my experience there are not ANY murders that are not acceptable...which I would have been happy, even eager to explain in another thread as requested.



Zincwarrior

 

[Missourian]

You're welcome, even though you weren't strong enough to overcome the urge to cherry pick.

The rest was equivocation.

 

[White 6]

First off topic post of the thread. Hmmm.

The OP was looking for leftists celebrating. Not off topic

 

[IM2]

Robinson isn't a conservative. He was radicalized according to family and friends. He was changed to a Leftist antifa follower. Reminds me of a young 17 year old I once knew who stabbed another girl at school. Fortunately, the girl did not die. But, as soon as it happened, she jumped into a car where her brother was and had witnessed the stabbing. The brother said "Why did you do that?" He said it was like the evil spirit just left her and she was there left holding the bag (knive). She said, "I don't know why. I'm sorry?" Fortunately, because the girl did not die, she was rehabilitated and has gone on to have a good life free from violence. Sounds like when Robinson's father talked with him, the same thing happened. The evil spirit left him and his response was that he wanted to kill himself. Kirk was attempting to stop the radical brainwashing of the communists that run our education system. There is no apples an oranges. Nice try but you failed. t’s been more than 48 hours since Charlie’s murder & no cities have been set ablaze & no stores have been looted, we’re not the same.

BS.

 

[IM2]

Nice try. But, 48 hours and no violence at night either. Yes, there were some who acted appropriately. But, they did nothing to stop the violence at night. In fact, the Left encouraged it. And, yes, it also happened during the day too. t’s been more than 24 hours since Charlie’s murder & no cities have been set ablaze & no stores have been looted, we’re not the same.

You lied about the 2020 riots and the left. This is what you guys always do. And so now we have some self-righteous idiot demanding that only one side condemn this because he found a tweet. The left has given this far more grace than the right has about anything.

 

[Crepitus]

How many examples would you need to condemn it?

IDK, show me some.

 

[Crepitus]

Hillary Clinton came from a Republican family.

Is it so hard to condemn those celebrating a political assassination?

Who is doing that?

 

[Crepitus]

MSN

www.msn.com

A blurry tiktok?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I’m a traditional democrat… always have that’s why I’ve always praised FDR , Andrew Jackson, John F. Kennedy. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and changed to Trump in 2020 because of how far left the leading Democrats went. I still consider myself a Democrat though.

Kirk’s assassination was an act of evil. Anybody who cannot condemn it is a fraud of the highest order… they are going against the values of the great democrats of American history.

I unequivocally, unhesitatingly and without reservation condemn the murder of <insert-victim-name-here> and deplore those who celebrate it.

Kirk was also not racist.

Please do let me know, when you're ready to debate that proposition (please may I see black people agreeing with you).

The far left has tried to change the definition of racism.

It's defined in every dictionary and has been for some time.

Kirk employed Black people,

Yes, that's somewhat the tradition in the United States, whites employ blacks.

How many of them were pilots?

he associated with Jews, blacks, Indians, people of different backgrounds …I saw Kirk once argue that Pakistani immigrants who wait in line for legal immigration are getting screwed over by people who come to the USA illegally ….

How dare any lefty call Kirk a racist… disagree with the guy all you want but calling someone a racist with no evidence is why you folks lost in 2024…

Please explain to me how that represents any kind of Christian virtues? what do you really expect a young black person to take away from such rhetoric?

Charlie Kirk in his own words: ‘prowling Blacks’ and ‘the great replacement strategy’

The far-right commentator didn’t pull his punches when discussing his bigoted views on current events

www.theguardian.com

produce evidence of Kirk having a poster of Adolf Hitler in his room. Or a KKK poster. Or show evidence of him saying blacks are inferior to whites. They can’t because it doesn’t exist….

Across social media numerous lefties have openly celebrated the death of Kirk right on camera.

Yet some lefties say


“who has celebrated the death of Kirk?”

“Kirk was racist”

“Kirk brought it upon himself”

All the far left has is lies, trolling arguing in bad faith and evil

I’m a traditional democrat… always have that’s why I’ve always praised FDR , Andrew Jackson, John F. Kennedy. I voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and changed to Trump in 2020 because of how far left the leading Democrats went. I still consider myself a Democrat though.

Kirk’s assassination was an act of evil. Anybody who cannot condemn it is a fraud of the highest order… they are going against the values of the great democrats of American history.

Kirk was also not racist. The far left has tried to change the definition of racism. Kirk employed Black people, he associated with Jews, blacks, Indians, people of different backgrounds …I saw Kirk once argue that Pakistani immigrants who wait in line for legal immigration are getting screwed over by people who come to the USA illegally ….

How dare any lefty call Kirk a racist… disagree with the guy all you want but calling someone a racist with no evidence is why you folks lost in 2024…
produce evidence of Kirk having a poster of Adolf Hitler in his room. Or a KKK poster. Or show evidence of him saying blacks are inferior to whites. They can’t because it doesn’t exist….

Across social media numerous lefties have openly celebrated the death of Kirk right on camera.

Yet some lefties say


“who has celebrated the death of Kirk?”

“Kirk was racist”

“Kirk brought it upon himself”

All the far left has is lies, trolling arguing in bad faith and evil

You raise rather a lot of dubious claims, but this isn't the thread in which to debate them.

By all means solemnly lament his untimely and cruel passing, but do not seize this event as an opportunity to serve as an apologist for what is pretty obviously white supremacism, stick to the topic of this thread if you don't want people to challenge your propaganda.

Kirk "debated" with children, teenagers, they were staged PR events where he held center stage, to describe his bullying as "debating" is quite disingenuous, I don't know if he ever had a serious professionally refereed debate.

This thread was meant to be about condemning murder, but your post is about defending an ideology, that's vert far off topic (as is my reply to you).

 

[Missourian]

Who is doing that?

Who's condemning celebration of political assassination?

Three posters in 130 posts.

Like I told Slade3200 , no one on the left is interested in lowering the temperature of discourse.

Only scoring political points.


Even the self identifying "moderate" lefties like @white6 couldn't.

I told Slade3200 my opinion, and I predicted the consequences.

So far, I'm 1 for 3 and only time will tell if my assessment for the rest of my predictions will be as accurate... but let's hope not.

 

[IM2]

• On his radio show, Kirk dismissed empathy as a harmful idea. “I can’t stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage.”

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

• On his radio show, Kirk dismissed empathy as a harmful idea. “I can’t stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage.”

Yes, well said, I hear this a lot here in the US where we have "evangelical" Christians. This (political) theology (ideology) seems to dwell on a concept (pretty much unknown outside the United States) called the "prosperity gospel" where if you're doing OK then you're a good person but if you're struggling then brother you need to look in a mirror, you're the reason you're poor.

For some very odd reason white people are so much gooder than black people (that's the take away).

Let me quote the gospel of Matthew (written by Roman Jews, not white Anglo Saxons)

I wonder if Kirk, maga ever read these words.

 

[Concerned American]

Yes, well said, I hear this a lot here in the US where we have "evangelical" Christians. This (political) theology (ideology) seems to dwell on a concept (pretty much unknown outside the United States) called the "prosperity gospel" where if you're doing OK then you're a good person but if you're struggling then brother you need to look in a mirror, you're the reason you're poor.

For some very odd reason white people are so much gooder than black people (that's the take away).

Let me quote the gospel of Matthew (written by Roman Jews, not white Anglo Saxons)

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I wonder if Kirk, maga ever read these words.

Stating facts is not racism. Calling a person racist for stating facts is racism, bigot.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I unequivocally, unhesitatingly and without reservation condemn the murder of <insert-victim-name-here> and deplore those who celebrate it.



Please do let me know, when you're ready to debate that proposition (please may I see black people agreeing with you).



It's defined in every dictionary and has been for some time.



Yes, that's somewhat the tradition in the United States, whites employ blacks.

How many of them were pilots?



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Please explain to me how that represents any kind of Christian virtues? what do you really expect a young black person to take away from such rhetoric?

Charlie Kirk in his own words: ‘prowling Blacks’ and ‘the great replacement strategy’

The far-right commentator didn’t pull his punches when discussing his bigoted views on current events

www.theguardian.com

You raise rather a lot of dubious claims, but this isn't the thread in which to debate them.

By all means solemnly lament his untimely and cruel passing, but do not seize this event as an opportunity to serve as an apologist for what is pretty obviously white supremacism, stick to the topic of this thread if you don't want people to challenge your propaganda.

Kirk "debated" with children, teenagers, they were staged PR events where he held center stage, to describe his bullying as "debating" is quite disingenuous, I don't know if he ever had a serious professionally refereed debate.

This thread was meant to be about condemning murder, but your post is about defending an ideology, that's vert far off topic (as is my reply to you).

None of what you showing is racist. Do you not understand the definition of racism. You need to show Kirk saying he refuses to work with Black people, he refuses to eat at the same restaurant with Black people. He refuses to associate with blacks , He thinks blacks are inferior. You can’t because it doesn’t exist.


Kirk in fact has a history of speaking politely with the trans people, sticking up for Pakistani immigrants. Working with people of all different backgrounds. Now I’m not entertaining any of your propaganda here. There are simple definitions for racism. You have to show it but You can’t because it doesn’t exist. Everything you say is a distraction and really poor partisan politics

It’s completely fine to disagree with the politics of Kirk. But those people who are saying that he brought it upon himself, or that he was a racist is basically presenting a very disturbing satanic picture that is simply false.

You know who was at one time a racist and one of the greatest Democrats to ever live ???? Well Robert Byrd. Now it’s true. He was a racist but if somebody says that they also need to mention the fact that he changed later in life and left the klan and embraced equality. Kirk was actually never even a member of the clan or anything like that. This is incredibly important and indeed everyone who is saying that Kirk was a racist is not really saying that they unequivocally condemn the assassination of Kirk.

 

[IM2]

Stating facts is not racism. Calling a person racist for stating facts is racism, bigot.

Racism has nothing to do with stating facts. What those like you call stating facts is not that.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

None of what you showing is racist.

Do you Sir, when you board a US airliner in an airport, upon seeing a black pilot enter the cockpit, think:

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

Do you?

 

[Concerned American]

Do you Sir, when you board a US airliner in an airport, upon seeing a black pilot enter the plane, think:



Do you?

Are you saying you're hoping he is not qualified? SMFH. Bigot.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Are you saying you're hoping he is not qualified? SMFH. Bigot.

I will say you're a racist as I've seen proudly expressed by you many times.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Do you Sir, when you board a US airliner in an airport, upon seeing a black pilot enter the plane, think:



Do you?

The context of that was about Kirk’s belief that DEI and radical leftism has lowered the hiring standards. You can only logically disagree with his politics. You have no evidence to call him a racist.

Believing that a government, university or company policy is providing preference to white or Black people is not racist. Believing that white people or Black people are inferior or refusing to hire somebody simply because of their skin color is racist. There are very strict definitions for that, and for a reason.

So very importantly anybody who claims to condemn the murder of Kirk, but then calls Kirk a racist is arguing in bad faith…. And that’s not a way to unite people. It’s a big problem.