This is a thread for those on the LEFT to unequivocally condemn those celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

[Concerned American]

I will say you're a racist as I've seen proudly expressed by you many times.

Linkie. You spout racist BS daily and try to deny facts, bigot. Whenever you have your ass handed to you, the first response is "You're racist." Link to a racist post of mine, moron.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The context of that was about Kirk’s belief that DEI and radical leftism has lowered the hiring standards. You can only logically disagree with his politics. You have no evidence to call him a racist.

Believing that a government, university or company policy is providing preference to white or Black people is not racist. Believing that white people or Black people are inferior or refusing to hire somebody simply because of their skin color is racist. There are very strict definitions for that, and for a reason.

So very importantly anybody who claims to condemn the murder of Kirk, but then calls Kirk a racist is arguing in bad faith…. And that’s not a way to unite people. It’s a big problem.

Sir, do you or don't you, here's my question again:

Do you or don't you? I mean YOU personally when YOU board a plane and see that, please answer me.

 

[Concerned American]

The context of that was about Kirk’s belief that DEI and radical leftism has lowered the hiring standards. You can only logically disagree with his politics. You have no evidence to call him a racist.

Believing that a government, university or company policy is providing preference to white or Black people is not racist. Believing that white people or Black people are inferior or refusing to hire somebody simply because of their skin color is racist. There are very strict definitions for that, and for a reason.

So very importantly anybody who claims to condemn the murder of Kirk, but then calls Kirk a racist is arguing in bad faith…. And that’s not a way to unite people. It’s a big problem.

Shylock is not an American and doesn't care to see the US maintain its position. He is a marxist and a globalist. I eagerly await his claim that this post is racist.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Linkie. You spout racist BS daily and try to deny facts, bigot. Whenever you have your ass handed to you, the first response is "You're racist." Link to a racist post of mine, moron.

Why? how can I expect a racist to admit he's a racist?

 

[HikerGuy83]

Nobody from the right would be dumb enough to think they could invite leftest to have a meaningful discussion. Are you saying it's just another troll thread, that should have been in the badlands, instead of politics. I'm shocked.
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You can see how shocked we all are, right?

I simply said (because I retain context on posters) that he isn't a leftist.

Whatever else you need to read into it....that your call.a

But you are pretty left-leaning which means:

1. You think you can read minds
2. You know people's motives
3. You are always right.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Shylock is not an American and doesn't care to see the US maintain its position. He is a marxist and a globalist. I eagerly await his claim that this post is racist.

Where in the Gospels do you see "American" called out as something relevant to God? It is irrelevant.

Was Jesus Christ an "American"?

 

[Concerned American]

Why? how can I expect a racist to admit he's a racist?

Prove it. Otherwise admit you are slandering me. Link it, LIAR.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Prove it. Otherwise admit you are slandering me. Link it, LIAR.

Prove it to whom?

 

[dblack]

Sir, do you or don't you, here's my question again:

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Do you not get, or are you deliberately misrepresenting, what he's saying there? He's not saying blacks aren't smart enough to fly airplanes. He's saying that when we create DEI / affirmative action type programs, it invites the question - are they really qualified? It causes more doubt and reinforces the narrative that, left to their own devices, they couldn't cut it. These are actual, unintended consequences of the way we deal with discrimination.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Do you not get, or are you deliberately misrepresenting, what he's saying there? He's not saying blacks aren't smart enough to fly airplanes, he's saying that when we create DEI / affirmative action type programs, it invites the question - are they really qualified?

He did not say that that, he could have but he did not he said:

"If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified"

Nor does DEI refer to qualifications but to the opportunity for a qualified person to be considered. He could have called out disabilities like missing limbs or only one eye, or hunch backed but he DIDN'T he called out BLACK.

Can he, can you provide an iota of evidence that a black airline pilot has flown a US commercial airliner and not held a pilots license?

 

[Concerned American]

Prove it to whom?

To everyone that you lied to on this forum. Link it. You won't because it doesn't exist and you're a bald-faced LIAR.

 

[dblack]

If you condemn this then I retract that you are a racist:

I don't give a **** what you retract.

He did not say that that, he could have but he did not he said:

"If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified"

Nor does DEI refer to qualifications but to the opportunity for a qualified person to be considered.

Clearly, I'm a witch.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Do you not get, or are you deliberately misrepresenting, what he's saying there? He's not saying blacks aren't smart enough to fly airplanes. He's saying that when we create DEI / affirmative action type programs, it invites the question - are they really qualified? It causes more doubt and reinforces the narrative that, left to their own devices, they couldn't cut it. These are actual, unintended consequences of the way we deal with discrimination.

Great explanation.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

To everyone that you lied to on this forum. Link it. You won't because it doesn't exist and you're a bald-faced LIAR.

Do you concur with the late Charlie Kirk:

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

If you do, then you are a racist, if you do not then I retract the accusation.

Your move.

 

[Concerned American]

Why? how can I expect a racist to admit he's a racist?

LMAO, good point, you don't admit you're a racist bigot.

 

[Matted Joybeard]

I'd like to see that people could come together on a shared universal belief that Charlie's murder was wrong and sad and that there would be a common thread of decency that unites us in recognizing that despite our differences there now exists a grieving wife and two young children that will never have memories of their father, only the memories that are told to them. I think on some fundamental level everyone could and should believe that's tragic. I honestly think it would be difficult to find many people would legitimately do not think that's the case, whatever their disagreements with the slain..

Unfortunately, for the most part we are unwilling to shed our tribalism and self-righteousness and rather than being united in our diversity, we fall into the trap of labeling those not us as 'the others'. When that gets taken too far, we lose sight of universal values that should bind us and default into moral relativism which serves mostly to amplify our largely self-constructed division. This view of what constitutes who and what is good or bad gives rise to these situations where someone on one side can support or celebrate what another side views as intolerable then see those roles switched based on context. People seem to be prone to 'celebrate' when someone they view as 'bad' meet misfortune. 'Who' is that 'bad' person and what constitutes 'celebration' becomes situational.

Life is sacred and our humanity matters. It would serve everyone well to unite around that truth. Disunity is our enemy.

 

[JoeB131]

When someone like George Floyd dies, the Left take to the streets and burn down their own communities. When Kirk dies, the Right hold vigils and pray for his family. No protests. No violence.

Not sure it's even close to the same thing.

Floyd was killed by police officers who were sworn to protect him.

Kirk was killed by some deranged Mormon.

 

[Concerned American]

Do you concur with the late Charlie Kirk:



If you do, then you are a racist, if you do not then I retract the accusation.

Your move.

I hope every pilot on every plane that I have ever flown on or will ever fly on is qualified. Don't you? If you don't you're an ignorant moron---oh wait.

 

[dblack]

Do you concur with the late Charlie Kirk:



If you do, then you are a racist, if you do not then I retract the accusation.

Your move.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse, but just in case you're actually ignorant, and have ANY interest in addressing it, chew on this:

Fact Check: Real Charlie Kirk quote about Black pilot qualifications circulates online

During a 2024 podcast episode, Kirk said, "If I see a Black pilot, I'm gonna be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"

ca.news.yahoo.com

 

[JoeB131]

Very, very close.

"His murder was completely unacceptable, and no one should be celebrating it."

But, I'll take it.

Thank you.

Well, you do leave the important part out.

The fact this kid was from a conservative, Mormon household of gun enthusiasts certainly does change the narrative, doesn't it?

I mean, you guys were trying to put a dress on this guy before we even knew who he was.