This Hyperventilating About Contraceptives is Overblown

[pknopp]

Not necessarily, there is no reason why Amoco, Mobil and Sunoco can't provide this service as well.

So again we have an example of people wanting to go back to the way things were 60 plus years ago.

 

[skews13]

Tennessee, by law, has outlawed every diet pill. There hasn't been any diet pills in TN since I moved here over 30 years ago.

Since the truth came out about phen phen....they have been even more self righteous in their decision and laws.

I can see the same thing happening with IUDs. IUDs are actually the worst form of birth control causing permanent sterilization from scars when many women would like to have children eventually. But due to political action committee money....IUDs have remained legal and viable....
But that's what States do...they make laws concerning these things. TN restricted diet pills....no law about crossing state lines to get them and many did. Same thing is likely going to happen with IUDs here....not illegal to possess but illegal to distribute. I'm not opposed to then outlawing this one type. There will not be a ban of all contraceptives across the board.

Children in state custody is where things begin to get fuzzy. Most girls in state custody get depo shots or norplant implants. I haven't heard of them getting an IUD.

Condoms will still be available at high schools.

That's a sad commentary. I feel very sorry for children who are forced to be raised in a place like that.

Forced morality, isn't morality. Its the worst kind of coercion.

Coercion is the greatest antithesis of the freedom of conscious as outlined in the Declaration of Independence.

Apparently, there are a lot of people that need remedial courses on what it means to be an American.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Just sayin though, I would have made the vote visible. I would wager better than half of the "yes" votes are posers.

 

[berg80]

I believe very, very few Conservatives/Republicans truly want govt involved in contraception, even Catholics and others who are morally opposed. Justice Thomas is only being Constitutionally solid when he asserts that this issue too belongs to the states, not the federal govt.

Still, we have articles like this from May, and plenty of hyperventilating all over.

Some States Already Are Targeting Birth Control • Stateline

Last year, conservative Republicans in the Missouri legislature took a run at blocking Medicaid funding from going to Planned Parenthood, a frequent and prominent target of anti-abortion activists and politicians. But in the fine print of their measure, those Republicans revealed that their...

www.pewtrusts.org

Somehow, either by blindness or design, you have missed the glaring beacon in front of your face that is the point. Neither the federal government or the state has any business getting involved in decisions surrounding contraception. The same is true about abortion until the fetus is viable on its own.
The broader issue being the conservative majority insisting no right exists that isn't explicitly enumerated, or has some historical reference referred to by the Constitution's authors. As if we should have expected there to be laws allowing for abortion in colonial days when women were second class citizens. Or gay marriage when the morays of the time were so repressive. What these conservatives fail to take in to account is, how can we expect laws and cases that are over a century old to dictate the legality of regulations targeting ‘ghost guns’ constructed with the aid of a three-dimensional printer? It's inanity.

 

[Polishprince]

So again we have an example of people wanting to go back to the way things were 60 plus years ago.

What's wrong with staying with a tried and true protocol instead of attempting a risky , unproven liberal scheme?

The great thing about men buying rubbers in a gas station is that the facilities are everywhere and have long hours, often 24/7.

Making an appointment with a pecker checker and taking a scrip down to the local apothecary so the government can make a payment doesn't work so well if a guy meets a dame in a bar or something.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

That's a sad commentary. I feel very sorry for children who are forced to be raised in a place like that.

Forced morality, isn't morality. Its the worst kind of coercion.

Coercion is the greatest antithesis of the freedom of conscious as outlined in the Declaration of Independence.

Apparently, there are a lot of people that need remedial courses on what it means to be an American.

What?
Restricting DIET pills is forced morality???
Please explain that one.

 

[SweetSue92]

Just sayin though, I would have made the vote visible. I would wager better than half of the "yes" votes are posers.

Good point.....my first poll.

 

[SweetSue92]

That's a sad commentary. I feel very sorry for children who are forced to be raised in a place like that.

Forced morality, isn't morality. Its the worst kind of coercion.

Coercion is the greatest antithesis of the freedom of conscious as outlined in the Declaration of Independence.

Apparently, there are a lot of people that need remedial courses on what it means to be an American.

Why don't you stop hyperventilating and look at the poll results, which are reinforced by the discussion in the thread? ONE poster wants a legal "ban" on contraceptives. All other posters, conservatives, want no such thing.

This won't happen, despite your fevered dreams of Handmaid's Tale or whatever.

 

[pknopp]

What's wrong with staying with a tried and true protocol instead of attempting a risky , unproven liberal scheme?

It didn't work back then either.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You can't even be honest. No it was not. There were many choices in the primaries but the right picked the guy that best espoused their hate.

Got an example or are you just spitballing?

 

[Polishprince]

Somehow, either by blindness or design, you have missed the glaring beacon in front of your face that is the point. Neither the federal government or the state has any business getting involved in decisions surrounding contraception. The same is true about abortion until the fetus is viable on its own.

You are really straying from the Liberal Plantation here, berg.

Most libs think the state and federal government need to get involved in the payments for both prophylactics as well as abortions- which are important parts of the decision, wouldn't you say?

I've taken a lot of heat from leftards over the years for suggesting the chicks should get their boyfriends and/or pimps to pony up for this.

 

[eagle1462010]

Good point.....my first poll.

I always choose the option to show the votes. And vote first.

I voted NO obviously.

 

[pknopp]

Got an example or are you just spitballing?

I've stated the examples.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That's not even true. They will do it for wages others won't. They will do it so employers can avoid things like employment taxes, etc.




Florida has made it so the illegal can arrive and not have to worry about the authorities raiding his employer. After all, they signed off that they were here legally.

Uh, hello moron! That's a federal law, brought to you by Democrats. If an illegal gives you an SSN, that is their SSN and you cannot question it, while denying the real person with that SSN any opportunity for employment. It happened to a student of mine in Florida! She applied for a job for a fast food restaurant and they fired her after only a few days because they said her SSN was already being used in Texas.

 

[berg80]

Most libs think the state and federal government need to get involved in the payments for both prophylactics as well as abortions- which are important parts of the decision, wouldn't you say?

It's ancillary to the decision as to whether contraception or abortion are constitutional rights in the first place. Surely you understand that, right?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Just sayin though, I would have made the vote visible. I would wager better than half of the "yes" votes are posers.

How does half a person vote? There is only one "no" vote.

 

[pknopp]

Uh, hello moron! That's a federal law, brought to you by Democrats. If an illegal gives you an SSN, that is their SSN and you cannot question it, while denying the real person with that SSN any opportunity for employment. It happened to a student of mine in Florida! She applied for a job for a fast food restaurant and they fired her after only a few days because they said her SSN was already being used in Texas.

If you are unable to read what I actually said and reply to what I actually said, you have no business calling others names. And it is NOT a federal law. If you can't reply without simply making things up you have no business calling others names. It is not enforced by BOTH parties and I have condemned BOTH parties for it,

 

[berg80]

Uh, hello moron! That's a federal law, brought to you by Democrats. If an illegal gives you an SSN, that is their SSN and you cannot question it, while denying the real person with that SSN any opportunity for employment. It happened to a student of mine in Florida! She applied for a job for a fast food restaurant and they fired her after only a few days because they said her SSN was already being used in Texas.

Issues like that could have been addressed years ago (and can still be addressed today) had Speaker Boehner not refused to bring the bipartisan immigration reform bill to the floor of the House for a vote. The one that easily passed in the Senate with support from Repubs.

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[Dadoalex]

I believe very, very few Conservatives/Republicans truly want govt involved in contraception, even Catholics and others who are morally opposed. Justice Thomas is only being Constitutionally solid when he asserts that this issue too belongs to the states, not the federal govt.

Still, we have articles like this from May, and plenty of hyperventilating all over.

Some States Already Are Targeting Birth Control • Stateline

Last year, conservative Republicans in the Missouri legislature took a run at blocking Medicaid funding from going to Planned Parenthood, a frequent and prominent target of anti-abortion activists and politicians. But in the fine print of their measure, those Republicans revealed that their...

www.pewtrusts.org

60% of Americans didn't want Roe overturned.
You and your absolutists care only for what your "god" says is moral.
And, as with all of you, the rest can and should die.

Birth control was illegal in most places till the 60s.
What make you think AL, TX, OK won't make them illegal again?
Interracial marriage was illegal till the 60s.
What makes you think they won't make it illegal again?

Remember this...

You have given the government power and eliminated a woman's right to choose but
There's no difference between the government saying you can't have an abortion and the government saying you MUST have an abortion.

You just gave government that power.

And you people claim "liberals" love government.

 

[cnm]

You know, I didn't thing the US could get any more barbaric. A lesson to me...

“We should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence and Obergefell,” Justice Clarence Thomas said. “Because any substantive due process decision is ‘demonstrably erroneous.’”​

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Justice Thomas said that the court has the “duty to ‘correct the error’ established in those precedents.” Those “precedents” which are included in Griswold, Lawrence and Obergefell include the protection of contraception, same-sex relationships and same-sex marriage.​

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Same-sex marriage and contraception protections should be reconsidered: Justice Clarence Thomas

in the same decision overturning Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court mentioned that other rulings should be reconsidered — such as those that have to do with contraception and marriage rights.

www.pennlive.com

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