This explains a lot. 7 Voters Weigh In on Trump’s New Ballroom

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A White House ballroom has been on President Trump’s wish list for years.

Now, he has demolished the East Wing of the White House to build one — a 90,000-square-foot, $300 million endeavor, which is the largest renovation to the White House in decades.

Mr. Trump initially pledged that the White House would not be touched by the construction of a new ballroom. But as heavy machinery bulldozed the East Wing, it became clear that one of the nation’s iconic buildings was getting a bigger makeover, with virtually no discussion.

Randy Dutton, a retired Navy commander and a Republican, was pleased with Mr. Trump’s efforts to remake the East Wing. It made sense on many levels, he said, because Mr. Trump and future presidents will now have more space to have receptions.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,” he said. “Guest lists for presidents and kings can get pretty big. Diplomatically, if you can get more people in there, you can enhance the prestige of the United States.”

Brian D. Kozlowski, who voted for Mr. Trump, said he was not especially interested in the White House demolition and construction.

“What is interesting,” he said, is the reaction from Mr. Trump’s critics, whom he called the “far left.”

“It doesn’t matter what the administration does,” he said. “Criticism is levied extra hard — and provided more media coverage — because it’s President Trump.”

Mr. Kozlowski acknowledged that the East Wing project was particularly extensive but said that many presidents, including Franklin D. Roosevelt, had redone parts of the White House and did not face the same level of scrutiny.

“Every president does it,” he said.


Such are the perils of taking for granted that the words coming out of Don's mouth, and no doubt reinforced on right wing media, bear a resemblance to the truth. They rarely do.

I've seen a defense of trump made along the lines of "What about that basketball court Obama built?"

AI Overview

During his presidency, Barack Obama added basketball hoops and lines to an existing tennis court at the White House, allowing it to be used for both sports. This conversion did not involve extensive construction or the destruction of the tennis court itself, as the court could still be used for tennis.

Comparable to tearing down the East wing and constructing a 90,000 sq. ft. ballroom? You make the call.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,”
“Every president does it,”


Belief in those falsehoods helps explain why Americans find ourselves at odds with each other over so many things. Every prez does not desecrate the White House. Approval has been sought even for minor renovations. I know of no prez who launched a major renovation while previously lying about its impact on the existing structure. There is no evidence I've seen showing previous prez's were in favor of constructing a larger entertainment venue close to the scale of the one being built.

In reading the remarks by Repubs about the ballroom you don't have to use much imagination to understand how they frequently come to conclusions based on misinformation.
 
A White House ballroom has been on President Trump’s wish list for years.

Now, he has demolished the East Wing of the White House to build one — a 90,000-square-foot, $300 million endeavor, which is the largest renovation to the White House in decades.

Mr. Trump initially pledged that the White House would not be touched by the construction of a new ballroom. But as heavy machinery bulldozed the East Wing, it became clear that one of the nation’s iconic buildings was getting a bigger makeover, with virtually no discussion.

Randy Dutton, a retired Navy commander and a Republican, was pleased with Mr. Trump’s efforts to remake the East Wing. It made sense on many levels, he said, because Mr. Trump and future presidents will now have more space to have receptions.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,” he said. “Guest lists for presidents and kings can get pretty big. Diplomatically, if you can get more people in there, you can enhance the prestige of the United States.”

Brian D. Kozlowski, who voted for Mr. Trump, said he was not especially interested in the White House demolition and construction.

“What is interesting,” he said, is the reaction from Mr. Trump’s critics, whom he called the “far left.”

“It doesn’t matter what the administration does,” he said. “Criticism is levied extra hard — and provided more media coverage — because it’s President Trump.”

Mr. Kozlowski acknowledged that the East Wing project was particularly extensive but said that many presidents, including Franklin D. Roosevelt, had redone parts of the White House and did not face the same level of scrutiny.

“Every president does it,” he said.


Such are the perils of taking for granted that the words coming out of Don's mouth, and no doubt reinforced on right wing media, bear a resemblance to the truth. They rarely do.

I've seen a defense of trump made along the lines of "What about that basketball court Obama built?"

AI Overview

During his presidency, Barack Obama added basketball hoops and lines to an existing tennis court at the White House, allowing it to be used for both sports. This conversion did not involve extensive construction or the destruction of the tennis court itself, as the court could still be used for tennis.

Comparable to tearing down the East wing and constructing a 90,000 sq. ft. ballroom? You make the call.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,”
“Every president does it,”


Belief in those falsehoods helps explain why Americans find ourselves at odds with each other over so many things. Every prez does not desecrate the White House. Approval has been sought even for minor renovations. I know of no prez who launched a major renovation while previously lying about its impact on the existing structure. There is no evidence I've seen showing previous prez's were in favor of constructing a larger entertainment venue close to the scale of the one being built.

In reading the remarks by Repubs about the ballroom you don't have to use much imagination to understand how they frequently come to conclusions based on misinformation.




How many pissy pants threads on this topic are you going to spam the board with, Cupcake?
 
A White House ballroom has been on President Trump’s wish list for years.

Now, he has demolished the East Wing of the White House to build one — a 90,000-square-foot, $300 million endeavor, which is the largest renovation to the White House in decades.

Mr. Trump initially pledged that the White House would not be touched by the construction of a new ballroom. But as heavy machinery bulldozed the East Wing, it became clear that one of the nation’s iconic buildings was getting a bigger makeover, with virtually no discussion.

Randy Dutton, a retired Navy commander and a Republican, was pleased with Mr. Trump’s efforts to remake the East Wing. It made sense on many levels, he said, because Mr. Trump and future presidents will now have more space to have receptions.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,” he said. “Guest lists for presidents and kings can get pretty big. Diplomatically, if you can get more people in there, you can enhance the prestige of the United States.”

Brian D. Kozlowski, who voted for Mr. Trump, said he was not especially interested in the White House demolition and construction.

“What is interesting,” he said, is the reaction from Mr. Trump’s critics, whom he called the “far left.”

“It doesn’t matter what the administration does,” he said. “Criticism is levied extra hard — and provided more media coverage — because it’s President Trump.”

Mr. Kozlowski acknowledged that the East Wing project was particularly extensive but said that many presidents, including Franklin D. Roosevelt, had redone parts of the White House and did not face the same level of scrutiny.

“Every president does it,” he said.


Such are the perils of taking for granted that the words coming out of Don's mouth, and no doubt reinforced on right wing media, bear a resemblance to the truth. They rarely do.

I've seen a defense of trump made along the lines of "What about that basketball court Obama built?"

AI Overview

During his presidency, Barack Obama added basketball hoops and lines to an existing tennis court at the White House, allowing it to be used for both sports. This conversion did not involve extensive construction or the destruction of the tennis court itself, as the court could still be used for tennis.

Comparable to tearing down the East wing and constructing a 90,000 sq. ft. ballroom? You make the call.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,”
“Every president does it,”


Belief in those falsehoods helps explain why Americans find ourselves at odds with each other over so many things. Every prez does not desecrate the White House. Approval has been sought even for minor renovations. I know of no prez who launched a major renovation while previously lying about its impact on the existing structure. There is no evidence I've seen showing previous prez's were in favor of constructing a larger entertainment venue close to the scale of the one being built.

In reading the remarks by Repubs about the ballroom you don't have to use much imagination to understand how they frequently come to conclusions based on misinformation.

I agree he shouldn't have destroyed the whole east wing. I thought he was just tearing down the facade to allow for them to connect the new ballroom, but the east wing would still be in tact.

Bad move on trump.
 
Here's the architect for the new ballroom

Catholic Architect Selected as Designer of White House Ballroom

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The current East Wing is cramped and not geared for large State functions.

Element of the current East Wing carry through to the new Trump Golden Ballroom.

Personally, the new look seems like something out of "The Shining"
 
"Let us eat cake"

And not the 'cake' we all know and love but the one caked up on the bottom of the pan,;) although that little remark didn't end too well for the smart ass. I love history and its stories.
 
I wonder what the part of the Whitehouse demolished was used for?

Far as I know so far, I have no problem with the ballroom.
Answers to such questions are readily available using the Google machine. No concern over the demolition of a historic building with enormous significance? Really?
 
A White House ballroom has been on President Trump’s wish list for years.

Now, he has demolished the East Wing of the White House to build one — a 90,000-square-foot, $300 million endeavor, which is the largest renovation to the White House in decades.

Mr. Trump initially pledged that the White House would not be touched by the construction of a new ballroom. But as heavy machinery bulldozed the East Wing, it became clear that one of the nation’s iconic buildings was getting a bigger makeover, with virtually no discussion.

Randy Dutton, a retired Navy commander and a Republican, was pleased with Mr. Trump’s efforts to remake the East Wing. It made sense on many levels, he said, because Mr. Trump and future presidents will now have more space to have receptions.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,” he said. “Guest lists for presidents and kings can get pretty big. Diplomatically, if you can get more people in there, you can enhance the prestige of the United States.”

Brian D. Kozlowski, who voted for Mr. Trump, said he was not especially interested in the White House demolition and construction.

“What is interesting,” he said, is the reaction from Mr. Trump’s critics, whom he called the “far left.”

“It doesn’t matter what the administration does,” he said. “Criticism is levied extra hard — and provided more media coverage — because it’s President Trump.”

Mr. Kozlowski acknowledged that the East Wing project was particularly extensive but said that many presidents, including Franklin D. Roosevelt, had redone parts of the White House and did not face the same level of scrutiny.

“Every president does it,” he said.


Such are the perils of taking for granted that the words coming out of Don's mouth, and no doubt reinforced on right wing media, bear a resemblance to the truth. They rarely do.

I've seen a defense of trump made along the lines of "What about that basketball court Obama built?"

AI Overview

During his presidency, Barack Obama added basketball hoops and lines to an existing tennis court at the White House, allowing it to be used for both sports. This conversion did not involve extensive construction or the destruction of the tennis court itself, as the court could still be used for tennis.

Comparable to tearing down the East wing and constructing a 90,000 sq. ft. ballroom? You make the call.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,”
“Every president does it,”


Belief in those falsehoods helps explain why Americans find ourselves at odds with each other over so many things. Every prez does not desecrate the White House. Approval has been sought even for minor renovations. I know of no prez who launched a major renovation while previously lying about its impact on the existing structure. There is no evidence I've seen showing previous prez's were in favor of constructing a larger entertainment venue close to the scale of the one being built.

In reading the remarks by Repubs about the ballroom you don't have to use much imagination to understand how they frequently come to conclusions based on misinformation.
Wait, aren't these losers claiming Obama spent hundreds of millions of dollars on a basketball court? And that he destroyed something or other to make room for it?
 
7 whole voters! Lol, well then that's it.
It wasn't a poll. Just an attempt to get some anecdotal reactions to what's happening. Moreover, the answers by Repubs are reflective of their acceptance of what could be characterized as propaganda.

Helping to explain the views held by Repubs on a variety of issues.
 
Answers to such questions are readily available using the Google machine. No concern over the demolition of a historic building with enormous significance? Really?
Simmer down, Buttercup.


I hate to burst your bubble, but here is a list. Presidents have been renovating and expanding the White House for more than a century.

1: In 1902, Teddy Roosevelt built the West Wing.

2: In 1909, William Howard Taft added the first Oval Office.

3: In 1933, FDR expanded again — adding a second floor, moving the Oval Office, completing the East
Wing, and even building an indoor pool.

4: In 1948, Harry Truman went big, gutting and rebuilding the entire interior of the White House from the ground up.

5: In the 1970s, Richard Nixon turned that old pool into the press briefing room and added a bowling alley.

6: In 2009, Barack Obama swapped the tennis court for a basketball court.

And now, in 2025, President Donald J. Trump is breaking ground on a grand, privately funded ballroom — carrying on the tradition of modernizing America’s most iconic home.

History didn’t start yesterday. Every president leaves their mark — and Trump’s is built to last.
 
I agree he shouldn't have destroyed the whole east wing. I thought he was just tearing down the facade to allow for them to connect the new ballroom, but the east wing would still be in tact.

Bad move on trump.
That was what he told you was gonna happen.

He lied.
 
It wasn't a poll. Just an attempt to get some anecdotal reactions to what's happening. Moreover, the answers by Repubs are reflective of their acceptance of what could be characterized as propaganda.

Helping to explain the views held by Repubs on a variety of issues.

Trump can do whatever he wants. That's his decision on what he wants to do with the white house. It's amazing thought that none of you libs utter a peep when a dem is making changes to the property. Not a peep. So why do you think I would listen to hollow words?
 
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Answers to such questions are readily available using the Google machine. No concern over the demolition of a historic building with enormous significance? Really?

Since my country is hardly recognizable now, the building that represents it is not all that important anymore.
 
A White House ballroom has been on President Trump’s wish list for years.

Now, he has demolished the East Wing of the White House to build one — a 90,000-square-foot, $300 million endeavor, which is the largest renovation to the White House in decades.

Mr. Trump initially pledged that the White House would not be touched by the construction of a new ballroom. But as heavy machinery bulldozed the East Wing, it became clear that one of the nation’s iconic buildings was getting a bigger makeover, with virtually no discussion.

Randy Dutton, a retired Navy commander and a Republican, was pleased with Mr. Trump’s efforts to remake the East Wing. It made sense on many levels, he said, because Mr. Trump and future presidents will now have more space to have receptions.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,” he said. “Guest lists for presidents and kings can get pretty big. Diplomatically, if you can get more people in there, you can enhance the prestige of the United States.”

Brian D. Kozlowski, who voted for Mr. Trump, said he was not especially interested in the White House demolition and construction.

“What is interesting,” he said, is the reaction from Mr. Trump’s critics, whom he called the “far left.”

“It doesn’t matter what the administration does,” he said. “Criticism is levied extra hard — and provided more media coverage — because it’s President Trump.”

Mr. Kozlowski acknowledged that the East Wing project was particularly extensive but said that many presidents, including Franklin D. Roosevelt, had redone parts of the White House and did not face the same level of scrutiny.

“Every president does it,” he said.


Such are the perils of taking for granted that the words coming out of Don's mouth, and no doubt reinforced on right wing media, bear a resemblance to the truth. They rarely do.

I've seen a defense of trump made along the lines of "What about that basketball court Obama built?"

AI Overview

During his presidency, Barack Obama added basketball hoops and lines to an existing tennis court at the White House, allowing it to be used for both sports. This conversion did not involve extensive construction or the destruction of the tennis court itself, as the court could still be used for tennis.

Comparable to tearing down the East wing and constructing a 90,000 sq. ft. ballroom? You make the call.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,”
“Every president does it,”


Belief in those falsehoods helps explain why Americans find ourselves at odds with each other over so many things. Every prez does not desecrate the White House. Approval has been sought even for minor renovations. I know of no prez who launched a major renovation while previously lying about its impact on the existing structure. There is no evidence I've seen showing previous prez's were in favor of constructing a larger entertainment venue close to the scale of the one being built.

In reading the remarks by Repubs about the ballroom you don't have to use much imagination to understand how they frequently come to conclusions based on misinformation.
Good grief you are stupid....
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Belief in those falsehoods helps explain why Americans find ourselves at odds with each other over so many things.
Trump supporters, conservatives, Republicans, others on the right believe disinformation and lies in conflict with Americas who acknowledge facts and the truth.

The ‘every president does it’ lie is typical of the dishonest right.
 
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