This explains a lot. 7 Voters Weigh In on Trump’s New Ballroom

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Trump can do whatever he wants. That's his decision on what he wants to do with the white house.
You know he is just a temporary steward of the office, right? He doesn't own the WH. He's just living there for a few years. It's the public's house.
There is a legal process that typically proceeds renovations of this scale but trump didn't follow it. Cuz, of course he didn't.

But this thread is really about how easily Repubs accept misinformation as truth. If the second respondent had spent any time looking in to the controversy he would have discovered prez's don't "all do it."
 
Nobody cares. Thus us "ALL THEY HAVE" The chirping parrots of the DNC and Commee-red-stained medua.//
 
A White House ballroom has been on President Trump’s wish list for years.

Now, he has demolished the East Wing of the White House to build one — a 90,000-square-foot, $300 million endeavor, which is the largest renovation to the White House in decades.

Mr. Trump initially pledged that the White House would not be touched by the construction of a new ballroom. But as heavy machinery bulldozed the East Wing, it became clear that one of the nation’s iconic buildings was getting a bigger makeover, with virtually no discussion.

Randy Dutton, a retired Navy commander and a Republican, was pleased with Mr. Trump’s efforts to remake the East Wing. It made sense on many levels, he said, because Mr. Trump and future presidents will now have more space to have receptions.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,” he said. “Guest lists for presidents and kings can get pretty big. Diplomatically, if you can get more people in there, you can enhance the prestige of the United States.”

Brian D. Kozlowski, who voted for Mr. Trump, said he was not especially interested in the White House demolition and construction.

“What is interesting,” he said, is the reaction from Mr. Trump’s critics, whom he called the “far left.”

“It doesn’t matter what the administration does,” he said. “Criticism is levied extra hard — and provided more media coverage — because it’s President Trump.”

Mr. Kozlowski acknowledged that the East Wing project was particularly extensive but said that many presidents, including Franklin D. Roosevelt, had redone parts of the White House and did not face the same level of scrutiny.

“Every president does it,” he said.


Such are the perils of taking for granted that the words coming out of Don's mouth, and no doubt reinforced on right wing media, bear a resemblance to the truth. They rarely do.

I've seen a defense of trump made along the lines of "What about that basketball court Obama built?"

AI Overview

During his presidency, Barack Obama added basketball hoops and lines to an existing tennis court at the White House, allowing it to be used for both sports. This conversion did not involve extensive construction or the destruction of the tennis court itself, as the court could still be used for tennis.

Comparable to tearing down the East wing and constructing a 90,000 sq. ft. ballroom? You make the call.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,”
“Every president does it,”


Belief in those falsehoods helps explain why Americans find ourselves at odds with each other over so many things. Every prez does not desecrate the White House. Approval has been sought even for minor renovations. I know of no prez who launched a major renovation while previously lying about its impact on the existing structure. There is no evidence I've seen showing previous prez's were in favor of constructing a larger entertainment venue close to the scale of the one being built.

In reading the remarks by Repubs about the ballroom you don't have to use much imagination to understand how they frequently come to conclusions based on misinformation.
So, your only objection is literally that work is being done on the White House, and it looks unsightly?

That's what happens when men work on building projects. Do you think the original WH and the one after the Brits burned the first one, were dropped onto the location intact and fully ready for occupation?

Doesn't work that way. Construction is a sweaty, dirty, noisy, smelly and back-breaking process, that - in a single snapshop - doesn't look much different from de-struction.

Old school Democrats understood what work was, which is why they had endorsement from unions and most of the blue collar voters. Starting with the Clinton's they became the party that has no idea what it is like to have a job in which if you are essential, you are gone.
 
You know he is just a temporary steward of the office, right? He doesn't own the WH. He's just living there for a few years. It's the public's house.
There is a legal process that typically proceeds renovations of this scale but trump didn't follow it. Cuz, of course he didn't.

But this thread is really about how easily Repubs accept misinformation as truth. If the second respondent had spent any time looking in to the controversy he would have discovered prez's don't "all do it."
Did Hillary return the China and silverware she stole?
 
Nobody cares. Thus us "ALL THEY HAVE" The chirping parrots of the DNC and Commee-red-stained medua.//
Bill Maher does a bit on his show once in a while called, "I don't know it for a fact, I just know it's true."

A majority of Americans said in a new poll they disapprove of President Trump’s plans to demolish part of the East Wing in the White House to make room for his $300 million ballroom.

In the YouGov America poll, released Wednesday, 53 percent of Americans said they strongly or somewhat disapprove “of the decision to demolish part of the East Wing of the White House as part of the renovations,” while 24 percent approved and 24 percent said they are unsure.


"I don't know it for a fact, I just know it's true" that the 24% who approve of the demolition are trump cult members.
 
Did Hillary return the China and silverware she stole?
You would never have made a comment as stupidly pathetic as that if not for the anonymity of the message board.
 
So, your only objection is literally that work is being done on the White House, and it looks unsightly?
How did you get that from the thread? I have a myriad of objections. That Dotard lied about the impact to the East wing, that he did not seek the public's input, that he thinks he can do anything he desires because the project is privately funded, and that it is a desecration of a building with historical importance in order for him to make an unbecoming, ostentatious display of wealth inconsistent with the architectural integrity of the WH.

But the thread is about how a couple of trumples, representative of trumples more generally (like you), allow lies to become part of their belief system.
 
How did you get that from the thread? I have a myriad of objections. That Dotard lied about the impact to the East wing, that he did not seek the public's input, that he thinks he can do anything he desires because the project is privately funded, and that it is a desecration of a building with historical importance in order for him to make an unbecoming, ostentatious display of wealth inconsistent with the architectural integrity of the WH.

But the thread is about how a couple of trumples, representative of trumples more generally (like you), allow lies to become part of their belief system.
Why not wait until you see the final result?

Do you think the next Democrat president, if any, will pledge never to use the Trump Ballroom?
 
Answers to such questions are readily available using the Google machine. No concern over the demolition of a historic building with enormous significance? Really?
Its not a demolition but an addition.
 
A White House ballroom has been on President Trump’s wish list for years.

Now, he has demolished the East Wing of the White House to build one — a 90,000-square-foot, $300 million endeavor, which is the largest renovation to the White House in decades.

Mr. Trump initially pledged that the White House would not be touched by the construction of a new ballroom. But as heavy machinery bulldozed the East Wing, it became clear that one of the nation’s iconic buildings was getting a bigger makeover, with virtually no discussion.

Randy Dutton, a retired Navy commander and a Republican, was pleased with Mr. Trump’s efforts to remake the East Wing. It made sense on many levels, he said, because Mr. Trump and future presidents will now have more space to have receptions.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,” he said. “Guest lists for presidents and kings can get pretty big. Diplomatically, if you can get more people in there, you can enhance the prestige of the United States.”

Brian D. Kozlowski, who voted for Mr. Trump, said he was not especially interested in the White House demolition and construction.

“What is interesting,” he said, is the reaction from Mr. Trump’s critics, whom he called the “far left.”

“It doesn’t matter what the administration does,” he said. “Criticism is levied extra hard — and provided more media coverage — because it’s President Trump.”

Mr. Kozlowski acknowledged that the East Wing project was particularly extensive but said that many presidents, including Franklin D. Roosevelt, had redone parts of the White House and did not face the same level of scrutiny.

“Every president does it,” he said.


Such are the perils of taking for granted that the words coming out of Don's mouth, and no doubt reinforced on right wing media, bear a resemblance to the truth. They rarely do.

I've seen a defense of trump made along the lines of "What about that basketball court Obama built?"

AI Overview

During his presidency, Barack Obama added basketball hoops and lines to an existing tennis court at the White House, allowing it to be used for both sports. This conversion did not involve extensive construction or the destruction of the tennis court itself, as the court could still be used for tennis.

Comparable to tearing down the East wing and constructing a 90,000 sq. ft. ballroom? You make the call.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,”
“Every president does it,”


Belief in those falsehoods helps explain why Americans find ourselves at odds with each other over so many things. Every prez does not desecrate the White House. Approval has been sought even for minor renovations. I know of no prez who launched a major renovation while previously lying about its impact on the existing structure. There is no evidence I've seen showing previous prez's were in favor of constructing a larger entertainment venue close to the scale of the one being built.

In reading the remarks by Repubs about the ballroom you don't have to use much imagination to understand how they frequently come to conclusions based on misinformation.
You need a new hobby because nobody gives a **** about this remodel.
 
A White House ballroom has been on President Trump’s wish list for years.

Now, he has demolished the East Wing of the White House to build one — a 90,000-square-foot, $300 million endeavor, which is the largest renovation to the White House in decades.

Mr. Trump initially pledged that the White House would not be touched by the construction of a new ballroom. But as heavy machinery bulldozed the East Wing, it became clear that one of the nation’s iconic buildings was getting a bigger makeover, with virtually no discussion.

Randy Dutton, a retired Navy commander and a Republican, was pleased with Mr. Trump’s efforts to remake the East Wing. It made sense on many levels, he said, because Mr. Trump and future presidents will now have more space to have receptions.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,” he said. “Guest lists for presidents and kings can get pretty big. Diplomatically, if you can get more people in there, you can enhance the prestige of the United States.”

Brian D. Kozlowski, who voted for Mr. Trump, said he was not especially interested in the White House demolition and construction.

“What is interesting,” he said, is the reaction from Mr. Trump’s critics, whom he called the “far left.”

“It doesn’t matter what the administration does,” he said. “Criticism is levied extra hard — and provided more media coverage — because it’s President Trump.”

Mr. Kozlowski acknowledged that the East Wing project was particularly extensive but said that many presidents, including Franklin D. Roosevelt, had redone parts of the White House and did not face the same level of scrutiny.

“Every president does it,” he said.


Such are the perils of taking for granted that the words coming out of Don's mouth, and no doubt reinforced on right wing media, bear a resemblance to the truth. They rarely do.

I've seen a defense of trump made along the lines of "What about that basketball court Obama built?"

AI Overview

During his presidency, Barack Obama added basketball hoops and lines to an existing tennis court at the White House, allowing it to be used for both sports. This conversion did not involve extensive construction or the destruction of the tennis court itself, as the court could still be used for tennis.

Comparable to tearing down the East wing and constructing a 90,000 sq. ft. ballroom? You make the call.

“Almost every president has wished to have more space for entertaining,”
“Every president does it,”


Belief in those falsehoods helps explain why Americans find ourselves at odds with each other over so many things. Every prez does not desecrate the White House. Approval has been sought even for minor renovations. I know of no prez who launched a major renovation while previously lying about its impact on the existing structure. There is no evidence I've seen showing previous prez's were in favor of constructing a larger entertainment venue close to the scale of the one being built.

In reading the remarks by Repubs about the ballroom you don't have to use much imagination to understand how they frequently come to conclusions based on misinformation.
When Obama held balls... no pun intended.... he had to rent a huge tent which costs millions to set up staff and remove... presidents for decades to come will thank Trump for this remodel....
 
That Dotard lied about the impact to the East wing,
Another "Trump lied" claim?

Show me evidence of exactly what Trump said (not an activist's paraphrase) and explain why it was a "lie."
 
Because what the ballroom looks like is not the issue. If you don't understand that you understand nothing.
It wasn't you that tearfully posted pictures of the construction in progress in one of your numerous threads on this topic?
 
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How many pissy pants threads on this topic are you going to spam the board with, Cupcake?

I was wondering exactly the same thing. This constant temper tantrum is getting ridiculous. 🙄
 
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Simmer down, Buttercup.


I hate to burst your bubble, but here is a list. Presidents have been renovating and expanding the White House for more than a century.

1: In 1902, Teddy Roosevelt built the West Wing.

2: In 1909, William Howard Taft added the first Oval Office.

3: In 1933, FDR expanded again — adding a second floor, moving the Oval Office, completing the East
Wing, and even building an indoor pool.

4: In 1948, Harry Truman went big, gutting and rebuilding the entire interior of the White House from the ground up.

5: In the 1970s, Richard Nixon turned that old pool into the press briefing room and added a bowling alley.

6: In 2009, Barack Obama swapped the tennis court for a basketball court.

And now, in 2025, President Donald J. Trump is breaking ground on a grand, privately funded ballroom — carrying on the tradition of modernizing America’s most iconic home.

History didn’t start yesterday. Every president leaves their mark — and Trump’s is built to last.
2. Taft was himself oval shaped and needed an office big enough to fit his overly large body. :D

3, 5, 6. FDR swam for his polio, Nixon bowled to relax and Obama liked B-ball. Trump likes himself a ballroom gala once in a while.

How many of the people decrying this live in McMansions themselves? It was okay when they turned their 900 sq ft bungalow into a 3000 sq ft two-story monster.

There are so many actual things to be angry at Trump over. Focusing on the McMansionification of the WH is a sign of the McMiniaturization of the Dem party.
 
Simmer down, Buttercup.


I hate to burst your bubble, but here is a list. Presidents have been renovating and expanding the White House for more than a century.

1: In 1902, Teddy Roosevelt built the West Wing.

2: In 1909, William Howard Taft added the first Oval Office.

3: In 1933, FDR expanded again — adding a second floor, moving the Oval Office, completing the East
Wing, and even building an indoor pool.

4: In 1948, Harry Truman went big, gutting and rebuilding the entire interior of the White House from the ground up.

5: In the 1970s, Richard Nixon turned that old pool into the press briefing room and added a bowling alley.

6: In 2009, Barack Obama swapped the tennis court for a basketball court.

And now, in 2025, President Donald J. Trump is breaking ground on a grand, privately funded ballroom — carrying on the tradition of modernizing America’s most iconic home.

History didn’t start yesterday. Every president leaves their mark — and Trump’s is built to last.
As far as I know Trump's is the only privately funded project.
 
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