There's a price to be paid for retribution.

[berg80]

Trump’s Politicized F.B.I. Has Made Americans Less Safe

Only 11 days after President Trump was inaugurated for a second term, his administration began a purge of the F.B.I. that now threatens some of the bureau’s most important missions. His appointees ousted eight of its most experienced managers, including the division heads overseeing national security, cybersecurity and criminal investigations. Several had worked on prosecutions of Jan. 6 rioters or had assisted in the various investigations of Mr. Trump, and Emil Bove, then the acting deputy attorney general, said they could not be trusted to carry out the president’s agenda.

That was just the beginning. Over the past five months, many F.B.I. agents, including other top managers and national security experts, have been fired, pressured to leave or transferred to lesser roles. Hundreds have resigned on their own, unwilling to follow the demands of the Trump administration. Their absence has left a vacuum in divisions that are supposed to protect the public. These losses have “obliterated decades of experience in national security and criminal matters at the F.B.I.,” Adam Goldman of The Times wrote.

Mr. Trump’s playbook for the F.B.I. is plain to see. He is turning it into an enforcement agency for MAGA’s priorities. He is chasing out agents who might refuse to play along and installing loyalists in their place. He is seeking to remove the threat of investigation for his friends and allies. And he is trying to instill fear in his critics and political opponents. Among his many efforts to weaken American democracy and amass more power for himself, his politicization of the F.B.I. is one of the most blatant.

These developments should unsettle all Americans, regardless of party.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/opinion/trump-fbi-politics-safety.html

trump’s second term has done more damage to American democracy than anything else since Reconstruction. He is attempting, with some success, to create a presidency unconstrained by Congress or the courts (while being enabled by the Roberts court), in which he and his appointees can ignore written law at their choosing. It is exactly the autocratic approach that the founders sought to prevent when writing the Constitution.

While doing so he has left the nation less safe. All to satisfy his need for revenge against those who investigated his many crimes. As if firing the investigators wiped the slate clean of the illegal acts they uncovered.

 

[OODA_Loop]

No one is irreplaceable.

"Hundreds have resigned on their own, unwilling to follow the demands of the Trump administration."

 

[Seth]

Trump’s Politicized F.B.I. Has Made Americans Less Safe

Only 11 days after President Trump was inaugurated for a second term, his administration began a purge of the F.B.I. that now threatens some of the bureau’s most important missions.

Appreciate the solid post. Here’s what I found digging deeper:

Yes, 9 senior FBI execs were fired at the start of Trump’s second term—some tied to Jan 6 probes—according to NYT and Guardian reuters.com+2theguardian.com+2thedailybeast.com+2.
Yes, Loyalty testing and polygraphs were instituted under Patel—many view that as political pressure .
Yes, several NSC staff also got abruptly dismissed after influence from far‑right operatives .

Experts warn all that could jeopardize national security—but there’s no record yet of a specific mission failure. The concern is about erosion of institutional know‑how, not necessarily a direct plot slipping through.

So I’d tweak your framing: World’s not crashing, but the risk profile just got a lot noisier—and that matters. Curious to hear if anyone’s seen pushback inside the FBI or any concrete lapse tied to this purge.

 

[Nostra]

Trump’s Politicized F.B.I. Has Made Americans Less Safe

Only 11 days after President Trump was inaugurated for a second term, his administration began a purge of the F.B.I. that now threatens some of the bureau’s most important missions. His appointees ousted eight of its most experienced managers, including the division heads overseeing national security, cybersecurity and criminal investigations. Several had worked on prosecutions of Jan. 6 rioters or had assisted in the various investigations of Mr. Trump, and Emil Bove, then the acting deputy attorney general, said they could not be trusted to carry out the president’s agenda.

That was just the beginning. Over the past five months, many F.B.I. agents, including other top managers and national security experts, have been fired, pressured to leave or transferred to lesser roles. Hundreds have resigned on their own, unwilling to follow the demands of the Trump administration. Their absence has left a vacuum in divisions that are supposed to protect the public. These losses have “obliterated decades of experience in national security and criminal matters at the F.B.I.,” Adam Goldman of The Times wrote.

Mr. Trump’s playbook for the F.B.I. is plain to see. He is turning it into an enforcement agency for MAGA’s priorities. He is chasing out agents who might refuse to play along and installing loyalists in their place. He is seeking to remove the threat of investigation for his friends and allies. And he is trying to instill fear in his critics and political opponents. Among his many efforts to weaken American democracy and amass more power for himself, his politicization of the F.B.I. is one of the most blatant.

These developments should unsettle all Americans, regardless of party.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/opinion/trump-fbi-politics-safety.html

trump’s second term has done more damage to American democracy than anything else since Reconstruction. He is attempting, with some success, to create a presidency unconstrained by Congress or the courts (while being enabled by the Roberts court), in which he and his appointees can ignore written law at their choosing. It is exactly the autocratic approach that the founders sought to prevent when writing the Constitution.

While doing so he has left the nation less safe. All to satisfy his need for revenge against those who investigated his many crimes. As if firing the investigators wiped the slate clean of the illegal acts they uncovered.

Cry more.

 

[Nostra]

Appreciate the solid post. Here’s what I found digging deeper:

Yes, 9 senior FBI execs were fired at the start of Trump’s second term—some tied to Jan 6 probes—according to NYT and Guardian reuters.com+2theguardian.com+2thedailybeast.com+2.
Yes, Loyalty testing and polygraphs were instituted under Patel—many view that as political pressure .
Yes, several NSC staff also got abruptly dismissed after influence from far‑right operatives .

Experts warn all that could jeopardize national security—but there’s no record yet of a specific mission failure. The concern is about erosion of institutional know‑how, not necessarily a direct plot slipping through.

So I’d tweak your framing: World’s not crashing, but the risk profile just got a lot noisier—and that matters. Curious to hear if anyone’s seen pushback inside the FBI or any concrete lapse tied to this purge.

Rank and file agents are happy about the change. The Biden regime weaponized them for political attacks.

 

[Nostra]

Trump’s Politicized F.B.I. Has Made Americans Less Safe

Only 11 days after President Trump was inaugurated for a second term, his administration began a purge of the F.B.I. that now threatens some of the bureau’s most important missions. His appointees ousted eight of its most experienced managers, including the division heads overseeing national security, cybersecurity and criminal investigations. Several had worked on prosecutions of Jan. 6 rioters or had assisted in the various investigations of Mr. Trump, and Emil Bove, then the acting deputy attorney general, said they could not be trusted to carry out the president’s agenda.

That was just the beginning. Over the past five months, many F.B.I. agents, including other top managers and national security experts, have been fired, pressured to leave or transferred to lesser roles. Hundreds have resigned on their own, unwilling to follow the demands of the Trump administration. Their absence has left a vacuum in divisions that are supposed to protect the public. These losses have “obliterated decades of experience in national security and criminal matters at the F.B.I.,” Adam Goldman of The Times wrote.

Mr. Trump’s playbook for the F.B.I. is plain to see. He is turning it into an enforcement agency for MAGA’s priorities. He is chasing out agents who might refuse to play along and installing loyalists in their place. He is seeking to remove the threat of investigation for his friends and allies. And he is trying to instill fear in his critics and political opponents. Among his many efforts to weaken American democracy and amass more power for himself, his politicization of the F.B.I. is one of the most blatant.

These developments should unsettle all Americans, regardless of party.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/opinion/trump-fbi-politics-safety.html

trump’s second term has done more damage to American democracy than anything else since Reconstruction. He is attempting, with some success, to create a presidency unconstrained by Congress or the courts (while being enabled by the Roberts court), in which he and his appointees can ignore written law at their choosing. It is exactly the autocratic approach that the founders sought to prevent when writing the Constitution.

While doing so he has left the nation less safe. All to satisfy his need for revenge against those who investigated his many crimes. As if firing the investigators wiped the slate clean of the illegal acts they uncovered.

Your Vegetable Messiah had the DOJ try to lock up his political opponent he was losing to, and you had no problem with that. But getting rid of corrupt, political FBI personnel is all the sudden the end of Democracy.

You are a left wing cult lunatic.

 

[Seth]

Rank and file agents are happy about the change. The Biden regime weaponized them for political attacks.

Fair enough—if the rank-and-file agents are actually on board with the leadership shakeup, that’s an angle I’d love to see more reporting on. Most of what I found focused on senior-level exits and morale concerns, so if there’s broad support down the chain, that’d change the dynamic.

That said, let’s be honest—every administration seems to find a way to bend these agencies in their direction. First it's the Resistance inside the DOJ, now it's the Restoration inside the FBI. At this rate, the next administration's gonna need holy water just to debrief the staff.

I don’t mind change at the top—but loyalty tests and mass firings always make me nervous, no matter who’s in charge. Just seems like the kind of thing we should all keep a close eye on before it snowballs into something we all regret later.

 

[justoffal]

Trump’s Politicized F.B.I. Has Made Americans Less Safe

Only 11 days after President Trump was inaugurated for a second term, his administration began a purge of the F.B.I. that now threatens some of the bureau’s most important missions. His appointees ousted eight of its most experienced managers, including the division heads overseeing national security, cybersecurity and criminal investigations. Several had worked on prosecutions of Jan. 6 rioters or had assisted in the various investigations of Mr. Trump, and Emil Bove, then the acting deputy attorney general, said they could not be trusted to carry out the president’s agenda.

That was just the beginning. Over the past five months, many F.B.I. agents, including other top managers and national security experts, have been fired, pressured to leave or transferred to lesser roles. Hundreds have resigned on their own, unwilling to follow the demands of the Trump administration. Their absence has left a vacuum in divisions that are supposed to protect the public. These losses have “obliterated decades of experience in national security and criminal matters at the F.B.I.,” Adam Goldman of The Times wrote.

Mr. Trump’s playbook for the F.B.I. is plain to see. He is turning it into an enforcement agency for MAGA’s priorities. He is chasing out agents who might refuse to play along and installing loyalists in their place. He is seeking to remove the threat of investigation for his friends and allies. And he is trying to instill fear in his critics and political opponents. Among his many efforts to weaken American democracy and amass more power for himself, his politicization of the F.B.I. is one of the most blatant.

These developments should unsettle all Americans, regardless of party.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/opinion/trump-fbi-politics-safety.html

trump’s second term has done more damage to American democracy than anything else since Reconstruction. He is attempting, with some success, to create a presidency unconstrained by Congress or the courts (while being enabled by the Roberts court), in which he and his appointees can ignore written law at their choosing. It is exactly the autocratic approach that the founders sought to prevent when writing the Constitution.

While doing so he has left the nation less safe. All to satisfy his need for revenge against those who investigated his many crimes. As if firing the investigators wiped the slate clean of the illegal acts they uncovered.

The FBI has been politicized for the past 10 years.
Trump is not the one who did it.

 

[22lcidw]

Trump’s Politicized F.B.I. Has Made Americans Less Safe

Only 11 days after President Trump was inaugurated for a second term, his administration began a purge of the F.B.I. that now threatens some of the bureau’s most important missions. His appointees ousted eight of its most experienced managers, including the division heads overseeing national security, cybersecurity and criminal investigations. Several had worked on prosecutions of Jan. 6 rioters or had assisted in the various investigations of Mr. Trump, and Emil Bove, then the acting deputy attorney general, said they could not be trusted to carry out the president’s agenda.

That was just the beginning. Over the past five months, many F.B.I. agents, including other top managers and national security experts, have been fired, pressured to leave or transferred to lesser roles. Hundreds have resigned on their own, unwilling to follow the demands of the Trump administration. Their absence has left a vacuum in divisions that are supposed to protect the public. These losses have “obliterated decades of experience in national security and criminal matters at the F.B.I.,” Adam Goldman of The Times wrote.

Mr. Trump’s playbook for the F.B.I. is plain to see. He is turning it into an enforcement agency for MAGA’s priorities. He is chasing out agents who might refuse to play along and installing loyalists in their place. He is seeking to remove the threat of investigation for his friends and allies. And he is trying to instill fear in his critics and political opponents. Among his many efforts to weaken American democracy and amass more power for himself, his politicization of the F.B.I. is one of the most blatant.

These developments should unsettle all Americans, regardless of party.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/opinion/trump-fbi-politics-safety.html

trump’s second term has done more damage to American democracy than anything else since Reconstruction. He is attempting, with some success, to create a presidency unconstrained by Congress or the courts (while being enabled by the Roberts court), in which he and his appointees can ignore written law at their choosing. It is exactly the autocratic approach that the founders sought to prevent when writing the Constitution.

While doing so he has left the nation less safe. All to satisfy his need for revenge against those who investigated his many crimes. As if firing the investigators wiped the slate clean of the illegal acts they uncovered.

Watching Joe mock Christians with the sign of the cross politically and then do the same for the two corrupted Prog politicians killed at their funeral tells us all what we have to know.

 

[Polishprince]

The FBI was useless under Sleepy Joe and Chris Wray.

They couldn't even figure out who bumped off Seth Rich, who smuggled coke into the WH or who leaked the Dobbs decision.

Under Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, the outfit is getting refocused on their actual responsibilities.

 

[berg80]

No one is irreplaceable.

"Hundreds have resigned on their own, unwilling to follow the demands of the Trump administration."

I'll leave you alone for a moment to consider whether you missed the point.

 

[berg80]

Experts warn all that could jeopardize national security—but there’s no record yet of a specific mission failure.

How do you know?

 

[OODA_Loop]

I'll leave you alone for a moment to consider whether you missed the point.

Your point is not accurate - see the difference?

 

[Lisa558]

Undoing Obama’s weaponization of the DOJ is not “retribution.”

 

[Hellokitty]

Trump’s Politicized F.B.I. Has Made Americans Less Safe

Only 11 days after President Trump was inaugurated for a second term, his administration began a purge of the F.B.I. that now threatens some of the bureau’s most important missions. His appointees ousted eight of its most experienced managers, including the division heads overseeing national security, cybersecurity and criminal investigations. Several had worked on prosecutions of Jan. 6 rioters or had assisted in the various investigations of Mr. Trump, and Emil Bove, then the acting deputy attorney general, said they could not be trusted to carry out the president’s agenda.

That was just the beginning. Over the past five months, many F.B.I. agents, including other top managers and national security experts, have been fired, pressured to leave or transferred to lesser roles. Hundreds have resigned on their own, unwilling to follow the demands of the Trump administration. Their absence has left a vacuum in divisions that are supposed to protect the public. These losses have “obliterated decades of experience in national security and criminal matters at the F.B.I.,” Adam Goldman of The Times wrote.

Mr. Trump’s playbook for the F.B.I. is plain to see. He is turning it into an enforcement agency for MAGA’s priorities. He is chasing out agents who might refuse to play along and installing loyalists in their place. He is seeking to remove the threat of investigation for his friends and allies. And he is trying to instill fear in his critics and political opponents. Among his many efforts to weaken American democracy and amass more power for himself, his politicization of the F.B.I. is one of the most blatant.

These developments should unsettle all Americans, regardless of party.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/opinion/trump-fbi-politics-safety.html

trump’s second term has done more damage to American democracy than anything else since Reconstruction. He is attempting, with some success, to create a presidency unconstrained by Congress or the courts (while being enabled by the Roberts court), in which he and his appointees can ignore written law at their choosing. It is exactly the autocratic approach that the founders sought to prevent when writing the Constitution.

While doing so he has left the nation less safe. All to satisfy his need for revenge against those who investigated his many crimes. As if firing the investigators wiped the slate clean of the illegal acts they uncovered.

This is EXACTLY what I voted for.

As for the less safe part GTFOH, how many time after a shooting or terror attack did we hear the guy was on the FBI radar.

 

[berg80]

The concern is about erosion of institutional know‑how, not necessarily a direct plot slipping through.

Not just that but also having a prez who would materially weaken the FBI to sooth his fragile ego.

 

[Nostra]

Fair enough—if the rank-and-file agents are actually on board with the leadership shakeup, that’s an angle I’d love to see more reporting on. Most of what I found focused on senior-level exits and morale concerns, so if there’s broad support down the chain, that’d change the dynamic.

That said, let’s be honest—every administration seems to find a way to bend these agencies in their direction. First it's the Resistance inside the DOJ, now it's the Restoration inside the FBI. At this rate, the next administration's gonna need holy water just to debrief the staff.

I don’t mind change at the top—but loyalty tests and mass firings always make me nervous, no matter who’s in charge. Just seems like the kind of thing we should all keep a close eye on before it snowballs into something we all regret later.

Firings have not gone far enough for some, like Clapper, Brennan, Wray, and one other I can’t recall for lying to the FISA courts to get warrants in the Russia collusion hoax.

 

[Independent thinker]

There's a price to be paid for retribution.​

LOL. Yes, it happened last November when Trump won over the retribution party. Glad you finally see that.

CNN did a poll shortly after the election. Out of the voters whose number one reason for voting was to "save democracy" 58% of those voters voted for Trump.

 

[berg80]

The FBI has been politicized for the past 10 years.
Trump is not the one who did it.

I can't help pointing out that your horseshit whataboutism does not address the FBI officials having been fired because they participated in investigations of trump.

 

[berg80]

LOL. Yes, it happened last November when Trump won over the retribution party.

See post #19.