There will NOT be an Ukranian Peace Deal

[Contumacious]

Well, giving back territory, would be the biggest card to play in pursuit of THAT, but I don't think Putin is willing to give back much land.

Novorossiya (Donbas + Crimea) has been part of Russia since the 1700s. So there is no territory to "give back"

 

[Man With A Plan]

Trump is lazy and is desperate for a deal…..any deal
Easiest deal is to demand Ukraines surrender

Notice there are no concessions being asked of Putin

You base that claim on what exactly, Winger? Show us all the "deal" that you're speaking of!

 

[Contumacious]

Trump is lazy and is desperate for a deal…..any deal
Easiest deal is to demand Ukraines surrender

Notice there are no concessions being asked of Putin

Yo Dingle Berry

Your boys Obama and Biden ARBITRAILY invaded Ukraine in December 2013 as mandated by the CIA, Lindsey Graham and John McCain.

That violated the Cuban Missile Crisis Agreement

Plain and simple

 

[Contumacious]

Hilarious!

Crimeans have been part of Mother Russia since 2014.

Have you heard any Crimean demanding their independence from Russia?

No, you said?

Contumacious rests.

 

[Contumacious]

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Crepitus , now I know who you are : Cocksucker John Brennan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nailed it .

 

[BluesLegend]

Democraps are why we had a war in the first place.

Do you think they'll try to end the war?

Figure the odds.

All Democrats and a bunch of stupid shit Republicans wanted to do was BORROW hundreds of billions and piss it away on another European conflict THEY should be paying for.

Did you know that Ukraine has deals with them to pay them back for the aid, but thanks to Stupid Joe the U.S. got nothing in return.

 

[rightwinger]

Have you heard any Crimean demanding their independence from Russia?

How much free speech do they have in Crimea?

 

[rightwinger]

Your only other option is to start moving US troops and gearing up to force Putin out. Is that what you want?

Before Trump gave away the ranch and then mocked Ukraine for having no cards….

Trump could have offered NATO membership……unless Russia worked out a deal
Trump could have worked with NATO and made it clear that Ukraine aid would continue……..unless Russia worked out a deal

 

[mudwhistle]

All Democrats and a bunch of stupid shit Republicans wanted to do was BORROW hundreds of billions and piss it away on another European conflict THEY should be paying for.

Did you know that Ukraine has deals with them to pay them back for the aid, but thanks to Stupid Joe the U.S. got nothing in return.

I remember Democrats in congress screwed up the drilling deals in Iraq, making sure that the Chinese got the deals instead.

 

[mudwhistle]

Before Trump gave away the ranch and then mocked Ukraine for having no cards….

Trump could have offered NATO membership……unless Russia worked out a deal
Trump could have worked with NATO and made it clear that Ukraine aid would continue……..unless Russia worked out a deal

You just gave away the fact that you don't know jack shit about this.

The entire dispute is over NATO, and Russia wanting to keep NATO from expanding.

If you want to start WW3, then letting Ukraine join NATO will just about do it.

 

[rightwinger]

You just gave away the fact that you don't know jack shit about this.

The entire dispute is over NATO, and Russia wanting to keep NATO from expanding.

If you want to start WW3, then letting Ukraine join NATO will just about do it.

Stop flaunting your ignorance

There was no request for Ukraine to join NATO prior to Putns invasion……Sweden or Finland either

 

[mudwhistle]

Stop flaunting your ignorance

There was no request for Ukraine to join NATO prior to Putns invasion……Sweden or Finland either

Matters not.

Russia signed an agreement years ago with NATO promising not to do specific actions as long as NATO stops expanding.

The dispute is over NATO breaking the agreement.

In this situation....both parties are wrong. NATO is trying to expand into Ukraine and Russia is worried about NATO having a strategic location on their border close enough to fire short-range missiles into Russia. Ukraine was never going to join NATO but our CIA pulled a regime change and installed that midget as president.

 

[rightwinger]

Matters not.

Russia signed an agreement years ago with NATO promising not to do specific actions as long as NATO stops expanding.

The dispute is over NATO breaking the agreement.

In this situation....both parties are wrong. NATO is trying to expand into Ukraine and Russia is worried about NATO having a strategic location on their border close enough to fire short-range missiles into Russia. Ukraine was never going to join NATO but our CIA pulled a regime change and installed that midget as president.

Nice going Comrade

Putin spoiled that agreement a decade ago

 

[mudwhistle]

Nice going Comrade

Putin spoiled that agreement a decade ago

WRONG.

NATO went back on the deal first.

Up until the Dems started using Putin against Trump....you were probably willing to suck his root.
Now Putin is shit and Xi is the shit.

 

[d0gbreath]

The 70 countries that are at the moment negotiating with Trump over trade deals belies that statement, Dogbreath.

He said that he was in negotiations with 200 countries. I don't believe him with either number.

 

[rightwinger]

He said that he was negotiation with 200 countries. I don't believe him with either number.

That includes countries with just penguins on it

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes. You simply have no concept of how much the people of Crimea despise Ukraine.

Of course, they aren't going to say anything else with the Russian military looking over their shoulder.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Crimeans have been part of Mother Russia since 2014.

Have you heard any Crimean demanding their independence from Russia?

No, you said?

Contumacious rests.

I know, your tiny brain must be vert tired.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Putin's military will keep the land it captured, no one can force him out without starting WW3, duh.

The Ukrainians can. We captured Afghanistan and Iraq and occupied South Vietnam and we were forced out. The North Koreans invaded South korea and they were forced out. The Soviets invaded Afghanistan and they were forced out.

 

[JWBooth]

Of course, they aren't going to say anything else with the Russian military looking over their shoulder.

You've confused the referendum with the 1864 US presidential election.