There will NOT be an Ukranian Peace Deal

[MisterBeale]

Until he is rearmed, rested, and resupplied.

 

[kyzr]

There's the problem, both sides want the territory, both sides want to win.
The only way to end the war, right now, is to put troops on the ground.

You volunteering?

 

[Correll]

All Putin wants is to restore Ukraine's status as a neutral buffer zone.

Well, giving back territory, would be the biggest card to play in pursuit of THAT, but I don't think Putin is willing to give back much land.

 

[kyzr]

Planes on the ground, boots in the air? Russia will simply kill them all. And, quite likely, after that Russia will nuke the USA.

LOL. You take a few weeks off to go fight in Ukraine?
Putin sees that the end is near, the price of oil is dropping and is expected to keep dropping.
You better hope Putin isn't stupid enough to nuke anyone.

 

[rightwinger]

So what? He doesn’t care about that. He will send another hundred thousand if need be and not even flinch. He may, may, agree to back off to the original lines before this started but I doubt it. He sure as fuck isn’t giving back Crimea. He’s willing to go to the mat to make this a win. Ukraine had better decide if they can live with what they have now or nothing at all.

Surrender Monkey Trump is offering Putin everything he wants with no consequences for invading.

Trump will quietly remove sanctions

 

[kyzr]

Surrender Monkey Trump is offering Putin everything he wants with no consequences for invading.
Trump will quietly remove sanctions

You type lies with no proof. meh

 

[JWBooth]

95.5% is as close to unanimous as you might ever find

Crimea referendum: Voters 'back Russia union'

Election officials say 95.5% of Crimean voters back joining Russia in a disputed referendum, with half the ballots counted.

www.bbc.com

How fucked up do you have to be for Putin’s Russia to be that big a preference? NM we just survived Bidet v Trump.

 

[rightwinger]

Through these actions, my message is clear: The United States will provide Ukraine with the support it needs to win this war.

Trump repeatedly taunts Zelensky and claims he has no cards.
It is Trump who has taken away all their cards and will give Putin everything he wants. All captured territory and no security for Ukraine

 

[Man With A Plan]

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The whole "Trump is a Russian asset!!!" thing is so six years ago at this point, Crepitus it's embarrassing when someone on the left trots it out again! Trump actually kept Putin in check. Your boys, Barry and Joe? They let him invade Ukraine not once but twice. Just saying...

 

[rightwinger]

The whole "Trump is a Russian asset!!!" thing is so six years ago at this point, Crepitus it's embarrassing when someone on the left trots it out again! Trump actually kept Putin in check. Your boys, Barry and Joe? They let him invade Ukraine not once but twice. Just saying...

Trumps fealty to Putin is more evident today than six years ago

 

[kyzr]

Trumps fealty to Putin is more evident today than six years ago

...typing more lies? link?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Trumps fealty to Putin is more evident today than six years ago

Only in your mind, Winger! If Trump was showing "fealty to Putin" he wouldn't be doing everything he can to lower the price of oil and natural gas which is going to do serious damage to the Russian economy! Unlike Joe Biden, Donald Trump understands that the way to keep someone like Putin in check is to starve him of the funds he needs for military "adventures"!

 

[rightwinger]

Only in your mind, Winger! If Trump was showing "fealty to Putin" he wouldn't be doing everything he can to lower the price of oil and natural gas which is going to do serious damage to the Russian economy! Unlike Joe Biden, Donald Trump understands that the way to keep someone like Putin in check is to starve him of the funds he needs for military "adventures"!

By invading Ukraine, Putin bit off more than he can chew.

Trump is offering him all captured territory, no assurance of security for Ukraine and a way out

 

[kyzr]

By invading Ukraine, Putin bit off more than he can chew.
Trump is offering him all captured territory, no assurance of security for Ukraine and a way out

Putin's military will keep the land it captured, no one can force him out without starting WW3, duh.

If Zelensky had half a brain he'd give up Crimea and lost territory for NATO "peacekeepers", even if Ukraine won't officially be in NATO, peacekeepers would be a security guarantee. As I understand Trump's mineral/metals deal we'd have US companies in Ukraine mining, so we might have troops there protecting them as well.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

As reliable as ours.

DURR.

You really think that was a free election after the Russian military moved in?

Yes. You simply have no concept of how much the people of Crimea despise Ukraine.

 

[Man With A Plan]

By invading Ukraine, Putin bit off more than he can chew.

Trump is offering him all captured territory, no assurance of security for Ukraine and a way out

Oh bullshit! You have no idea what Trump is offering Putin or Zelensky! You're here making shit up. As usual!

 

[rightwinger]

Oh bullshit! You have no idea what Trump is offering Putin or Zelensky! You're here making shit up. As usual!

Marco made it clear yesterday

Trump is a surrender monkey

 

[Man With A Plan]

Marco made it clear yesterday

Trump is a surrender monkey

Trump is doing the hard work of getting a peace accord between two nations at war. A war that was caused by Joe Biden's failed foreign policy. A war that has cost the US taxpayer BILLIONS of dollars!

 

[rightwinger]

Trump is doing the hard work of getting a peace accord between two nations at war. A war that was caused by Joe Biden's failed foreign policy. A war that has cost the US taxpayer BILLIONS of dollars!

Trump is lazy and is desperate for a deal…..any deal
Easiest deal is to demand Ukraines surrender

Notice there are no concessions being asked of Putin

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Surrender Monkey Trump is offering Putin everything he wants with no consequences for invading.

Trump will quietly remove sanctions

Your only other option is to start moving US troops and gearing up to force Putin out. Is that what you want?