There never was a free market in Healthcare

[Dot Com]

The Myth of Health Care's Free Market - Newsweek

For starters, markets can push prices up as well as down. The electricity market rules, initially written by Enron (at the urging of former Vice President Dick Cheney, who was pals with the company's late founder), can raise prices to 90 percent of what an unfettered monopolist could charge, as I showed in my book Free Lunch, citing research by Professor Sarosh Talukdar of Carnegie-Mellon University that no one has challenged.

IOW's- stop w/ the theatrics insurance co fluffers

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[OODA_Loop]

The present fix is worse than the problem

 

[Contumacious]

The Myth of Health Care's Free Market - Newsweek

That is correct.

Healthcare has been regulated since the 1840's.

Firstly , at the behest of the American Medical Association , which wanted to control the amount of practitioners in order to keep their high incomes.

Then healthcare was again affected in 1965 by Medicaid/medicare.

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[Dot Com]

The present fix is worse than the problem

O RLLY?

From the article:

For weeks, politicians and writers in the opinion pages of The Wall Street Journal and other critical outlets have declared Obamacare a failure with plenty of victims. Those are silly assertions because the law only took effect this week, on the first day of 2014.

 

[Contumacious]

The present fix is worse than the problem

Correctomundo.

In addition to the Constitutional violations ; we can extrapolate from what the misery which is being caused by socialized medicine in other countries.

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[kiwiman127]

The present fix is worse than the problem

Correctomundo.

In addition to the Constitutional violations ; we can extrapolate from what the misery which is being caused by socialized medicine in other countries.

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Yeah I can see people in other countries crying about this:

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

So then it's obvious that we should try a free market since government has failed so spectacularly. And you're aware that the insurance companies wrote ObamaCare to benefit themselves, right?

 

[bripat9643]

The Myth of Health Care's Free Market - Newsweek

For starters, markets can push prices up as well as down. The electricity market rules, initially written by Enron (at the urging of former Vice President Dick Cheney, who was pals with the company's late founder), can raise prices to 90 percent of what an unfettered monopolist could charge, as I showed in my book Free Lunch, citing research by Professor Sarosh Talukdar of Carnegie-Mellon University that no one has challenged.

IOW's- stop w/ the theatrics insurance co fluffers

discuss...

Another cartoon to prove his point.

How cute.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Health insurance.....any insurance.....is pure socialism. Except it's done by a corporation with shareholders instead of a central government.

When a carrier takes a hit for a claim what do they do, if they pay it or not? They pass the losses amongst their pool of policy holders. They don't take the hit even though they may have collected 1000 times what that claim may be. THEY SPREAD THE LOSSES AROUND....and keep the premiums.

You should hear the bitching up here from the people in southeast PA whose property insurance has skyrocketed even though their homes were not affected by Sandy last year. Go anywhere in the country where there has been a natural disaster. The insurance companies are NOT taking the hit. The policy holders are.

Insurance is the biggest fraud ever and health insurance is the worst form of this fraud because a consumer can choose to own a home, car, boat, commercial business, etc. But you cannot choose to be born.


Your house: Average home owner.

Their house: Hartford Insurance headquarters, Hartford, CT

Who's getting fucked here?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

The Myth of Health Care's Free Market - Newsweek

For starters, markets can push prices up as well as down. The electricity market rules, initially written by Enron (at the urging of former Vice President Dick Cheney, who was pals with the company's late founder), can raise prices to 90 percent of what an unfettered monopolist could charge, as I showed in my book Free Lunch, citing research by Professor Sarosh Talukdar of Carnegie-Mellon University that no one has challenged.

IOW's- stop w/ the theatrics insurance co fluffers

discuss...

Another cartoon to prove his point.

How cute.

Beats your clown act any day.

 

[Clementine]

The present fix is worse than the problem

O RLLY?

From the article:

For weeks, politicians and writers in the opinion pages of The Wall Street Journal and other critical outlets have declared Obamacare a failure with plenty of victims. Those are silly assertions because the law only took effect this week, on the first day of 2014.

The law started affecting people long before the deadline to sign up. Millions are without insurance and only 2 million supposedly signed up. More are without because of Obamacare.

Obamacare sucks. Even the people the liberals were supposed to be helping didn't even sign up. How bad is that when the people facing a "crisis" opted out of this shit?

 

[National Socialist]

Good. Free market just means those who can pay more get better healthcare. That's bullshit.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Free stuff huh? Free healthcare? No such thing.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Myth of Health Care's Free Market - Newsweek

For starters, markets can push prices up as well as down. The electricity market rules, initially written by Enron (at the urging of former Vice President Dick Cheney, who was pals with the company's late founder), can raise prices to 90 percent of what an unfettered monopolist could charge, as I showed in my book Free Lunch, citing research by Professor Sarosh Talukdar of Carnegie-Mellon University that no one has challenged.

IOW's- stop w/ the theatrics insurance co fluffers

discuss...

Another cartoon to prove his point.

How cute.

"Dottie" is a guy?.....every week its different.....if he is a guy..."his" posts come off kinda feminine...

 

[bripat9643]

The Myth of Health Care's Free Market - Newsweek

IOW's- stop w/ the theatrics insurance co fluffers

discuss...

Another cartoon to prove his point.

How cute.

Beats your clown act any day.

Right. Cartoons beat logic and facts.

Only a libturd could say such a thing. Only a libturd would use a cartoon to support his claims.

 

[bripat9643]

Good. Free market just means those who can pay more get better healthcare. That's bullshit.

Why is that bullshit? Do you think people should get things without paying for them?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Good. Free market just means those who can pay more get better healthcare. That's bullshit.

Why is that bullshit? Do you think people should get things without paying for them?

He thinks the state should decide who gets better health care.

 

[National Socialist]

Good. Free market just means those who can pay more get better healthcare. That's bullshit.

Why is that bullshit? Do you think people should get things without paying for them?

The state should pay for ALL medical care and it should be EQUAL medical care for EVERYONE. You should not get to live because you are rich and can afford it and I am poor and can't.

Good. Free market just means those who can pay more get better healthcare. That's bullshit.

Why is that bullshit? Do you think people should get things without paying for them?

He thinks the state should decide who gets better health care.

No I think the state should make sure ALL citizens get EQUAL healthcare.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Good. Free market just means those who can pay more get better healthcare. That's bullshit.

Why is that bullshit? Do you think people should get things without paying for them?

The state should pay for ALL medical care and it should be EQUAL medical care for EVERYONE. You should not get to live because you are rich and can afford it and I am poor and can't.

Why is that bullshit? Do you think people should get things without paying for them?

He thinks the state should decide who gets better health care.

No I think the state should make sure ALL citizens get EQUAL healthcare.

Well you could easily get your wish. We could all get equally crappy care if the state took over completely.

 

[National Socialist]

Fine with me. The rich do not deserve better care because they can afford it. Amazing how you refuse to even entertain the thought of first class healthcare in a socialist society. NS Germany had it,they made extraordinary advances in medicine,MOST European countries have it and they are far more advanced than the US is and their people are healthier and live longer.