There HAS to be life on other planets..

Did you watch the TV programme about that?

Except, how long would it take us to get there?

Unless we were all put in sleeping pods, like in the movie “Passengers”.
Or we send AI and robots instead.
 
Except maybe baby toes.

Their purpose is to fill our socks, I guess.

Point being, call it what you will, doesn't change much.

By your logic, everything happens for a purpose. Okay. But purposes are then sometimes mundane. Sometimes the "purpose" is to bring two massive objects closer together.

So? You have just called everything, purpose.
I didn't say everything happens for a purpose. I said everything happens for a reason which means everything serves a purpose. So, no, I don't think I can agree with YOUR logic.
 
The big hurdle from a ball of molten rock to a world teeming with human societies doesn't seem to have been the formation of life. That seems to have happened rather quickly.

The fact that Earth remained stable enough for 4 billion years to produce human society might be very rare.

So we should probably expect to find life early and often, if we ever start to explore the universe. But, intelligent species? Even if there are millions of them, we may have a hard time ever meeting one.

Finding life requires just the perfect climate and that life will more likely be some microbe or slime than intelligent life
 
The big hurdle from a ball of molten rock to a world teeming with human societies doesn't seem to have been the formation of life. That seems to have happened rather quickly.

The fact that Earth remained stable enough for 4 billion years to produce human society might be very rare.

So we should probably expect to find life early and often, if we ever start to explore the universe. But, intelligent species? Even if there are millions of them, we may have a hard time ever meeting one.
If the original theory that prokaryotes and eukaryotes remained separate until one was accidentally consumed by the other thereby mixing genetic potentials enabling them to move forward and create more complex life forms.... That would represent an extreme bottleneck indicating that it's highly unlikely that we would find complex life forms no matter where we search.
 
Some say only a tiny percentage reach Heaven, yet Heaven has residents as far as they eye can see. Both could be true if there is intelligent life elsewhere. Pope Benedict XVI as well as St. Padre Pio have stated they believe the majority of people go to Purgatory, which means they will ultimately go to Heaven. Still, Jesus' own words seem to say the majority will go to Hell.
 
Some say only a tiny percentage reach Heaven, yet Heaven has residents as far as they eye can see. Both could be true if there is intelligent life elsewhere. Pope Benedict XVI as well as St. Padre Pio have stated they believe the majority of people go to Purgatory, which means they will ultimately go to Heaven. Still, Jesus' own words seem to say the majority will go to Hell.
If you focus on the journey the destination will work itself out.
 
*just in our galaxy. Probably more like 100 billion.
Sorry, yes, just in our own galaxy. Multiply that by the number of visible and non visible galaxies, must but hundreds of billions, if not trillions. Then the odds of just us having life? So there's likely to be many planets with life, in some shape or form.
 
Sorry, yes, just in our own galaxy. Multiply that by the number of visible and non visible galaxies, must but hundreds of billions, if not trillions. Then the odds of just us having life? So there's likely to be many planets with life, in some shape or form.
I would agree.

And the more we learn about how very quickly life formed here, the more likely that becomes.
 
I would agree.

And the more we learn about how very quickly life formed here, the more likely that becomes.
Unfortunately with distances, meeting other lifeforms is virtually zero, if not zero. Worm holes etc.. sounds fascinating, but Star Trek ships with forever be a fantasy. Mankind with have eradicated itself way before designing that technology, imo
 
Unfortunately with distances, meeting other lifeforms is virtually zero, if not zero. Worm holes etc.. sounds fascinating, but Star Trek ships with forever be a fantasy. Mankind with have eradicated itself way before designing that technology, imo
I would also agree with that.

But I do think we will eventually find convincing evidence of life elsewhere.
 
I would also agree with that.

But I do think we will eventually find convincing evidence of life elsewhere.
We'll probably get a telegram from a distant planet, "We've got your Voyager 1 earthlings, if you don't send us one million Klingon Dollars, we'll trash it".
 
I’m not talking about little green men, and I’ve never been a believer in aliens, I’ve never seen any evidence to prove to me that there are. However…there are hundreds of billions of galaxies, some say even trillions of galaxies. The odds that when the universe formed, that our planet is the ONLY one that ended up being able to sustain intelligent life would have to be astronomically high. It would almost seem impossible that what happened on on earth didn’t also happen somewhere else, or in many different places.

My thought on this is that if earth is the only place where humans ended up, you’d almost have to believe in creation to believe that.

Thoughts?
I saw a show on the moon and how important it is to us being here. There may be life but without a moon, intelligent life might not be possible. But even as rare as the circumstances, there has to be at least a couple of other intelligent beings out there.

When I say smart I mean they are aware of the universe. The sun, other planets in their solar system. Maybe not even that smart. Bears, lions, crows, wolves.

It’s amazing how many things had to go right for life to be here. Even as miraculous as it is, there must be others.

I don’t think they can see or visit us just like we can’t see or visit them. Maybe one day. If we can think it, we can do it.
 
Logic, as it's currently understood, would dictate that life on other worlds would exist.

But, what if there is simply nothing else out there but countless lifeless worlds stretching out into infinity and we are alone?

To be honest I've not seen any real evidence that it's not the case and I can't say it bothers me any one way or the other.

In fact the only thing that should really concern us is a ELE event from an asteroid.
Voyager isn’t even really out of our solar system yet. It is and it isn’t. We didn’t realize how far out our sun still has power over things. So voyager is in that bubble between be8ng 8n and out of our solar system. Give them another 100 years to actually be in interstellar travel. So cool though. We have finally (almost) achieved interstellar travel.

If another species on another planet looked at our solar system how would it see us?

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Some say only a tiny percentage reach Heaven, yet Heaven has residents as far as they eye can see. Both could be true if there is intelligent life elsewhere. Pope Benedict XVI as well as St. Padre Pio have stated they believe the majority of people go to Purgatory, which means they will ultimately go to Heaven. Still, Jesus' own words seem to say the majority will go to Hell.
Maybe this is purgatory, and we keep getting recycled until we get it right.
 
I’m not talking about little green men, and I’ve never been a believer in aliens, I’ve never seen any evidence to prove to me that there are. However…there are hundreds of billions of galaxies, some say even trillions of galaxies. The odds that when the universe formed, that our planet is the ONLY one that ended up being able to sustain intelligent life would have to be astronomically high. It would almost seem impossible that what happened on on earth didn’t also happen somewhere else, or in many different places.

My thought on this is that if earth is the only place where humans ended up, you’d almost have to believe in creation to believe that.

Thoughts?
“We found the strongest evidence to date of possible biological activity on an exoplanet,”

used data from the James Webb Space Telescope to find chemical signatures they believe suggest life on K2-18b.

sits in the habitable “Goldilocks Zone” of a dwarf star about 120 light-years away.

They looked specifically for something called DMS, or dimethyl sulfide, a chemical that on Earth is produced solely by living organisms such as algae.

It’s so uniquely produced by life that scientists have theorized that checking other planets for its “biosignature” could be the key to finding life outside our own planet.

And that’s what they’ve found, as well as another potential marker of life called DMDS, and in levels thousands of times higher than what’s seen on Earth, according to research published in The Astrophysical Journal Letters.

“Given everything we know about this planet, a Hycean world with an ocean that is teeming with life is the scenario that best fits the data we have,”

 
Maybe it should be life “as we know it”.

Perhaps there is life, but not as we know it. :dunno:
 
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