‘There are a lot of bitter people here, I’m one of them’: rust belt voters on why they backed Trump again despite his broken promises

/----/ How did that 12% advantage work out for Commie Harris and for Hildabeast?
The other problem is that the classification of college educated encompasses alot. There are associate degrees, bachelors, and advanced degrees. Then you have Bachelor of Science and Bachelor of Arts.
It doesn't break it out any further. Maybe democRATs get more grads with a bachelor of arts in underwater basket weaving, while Republicans get the majority of business and economic grads.
There is no degree for basket weaving which shows yer ignorance on the subject of college degrees.
 
And my point is that well-educated people are more affluent and thus were more likely to escape the consequences of Biden’s policies. That leaves the working class - the largest voting bloc - who were left struggling with unaffordable groceries and rent.

Also, college has really been dumbed down in the last decade or two, with rather mediocre kids going to fourth-tier schools. When I went to college, only the top half (or less) of the high school went to college. When my parents went to college, only the top 10% did.

It would be interesting to remove college grads under 30, which would include the mediocre kids - and then see the breakdown.
I went to college as a high school dropout in 1979. College was easy like high school, in fact I dropped out of high school and in six months I was in college. College is just as easy as it was in the 1970s-80s, in fact, I am on the Dean's List.
 
And my point is that well-educated people are more affluent and thus were more likely to escape the consequences of Biden’s policies. That leaves the working class - the largest voting bloc - who were left struggling with unaffordable groceries and rent.

Also, college has really been dumbed down in the last decade or two, with rather mediocre kids going to fourth-tier schools. When I went to college, only the top half (or less) of the high school went to college. When my parents went to college, only the top 10% did.

It would be interesting to remove college grads under 30, which would include the mediocre kids - and then see the breakdown.
Prices are going to go up with Trump's tariffs.

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/----/ Watch this and see how Republicans get things done.

No homeless in Florida!?


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Another lying sack of shit who claimed to be a Republican.



In January 2023, there were approximately 30,809 people experiencing homelessness in Florida. This was a 19.1% increase from the previous year.

Explanation
  • The 2023 Point-in-Time Count (PIT) is a snapshot of homelessness in Florida.

  • The PIT count includes people living in shelters and in places not meant for human habitation.

  • The 2023 count was the highest number of people experiencing homelessness on a single night since reporting began in 2007.

  • Florida had some of the largest increases in homelessness for families with children and veterans between 2022 and 2023.
 
The Guardian

Many in Youngstown, Ohio, believe the president-elect will tackle the town’s decline this time. Others are worried about his character flaws. Their concerns help explain how he returned to power – and how his second term might play out

Andrew Gumbel
Sat 11 Jan 2025 07.00 EST
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The last time Donald Trump was president, he travelled to Youngstown, Ohio, among the most depressed of America’s rust belt cities, and promised voters the impossible. The high-paying steel, railroad and car industry jobs that once made Youngstown a hard-living, hard-drinking blue-collar boom town were coming back, he said. “Don’t move. Don’t sell your house,” he crowed to a rapturous crowd in 2017. “We’re going to fill up those factories – or rip ”em down and build brand new ones”.

None of that happened. Indeed, within 18 months, General Motors (GM) announced that it was suspending operations at its one remaining manufacturing plant outside Youngstown, throwing 5,000 jobs into jeopardy in a community with little else to cling to. Trump’s reaction was to say the closure didn’t matter, because the jobs would be replaced “in, like, two minutes”.

That, too, did not happen. People moved away, marriages broke down, depression soared and, locals say, a handful of people took their own lives.

Ordinarily, politicians who promise the moon and fail to deliver get punished at the ballot box. But that did not happen to Trump either. Instead, he has steadily built up his popularity in Youngstown, a city that was once a well-oiled Democratic party machine but has now turned into one of his most remarkable bases of working-class support.

“Does [Trump] understand at all what you’re going through?” Joe Biden asked Ohio voters during the 2020 presidential campaign, referring directly to the GM closure. “Does he see you where you are and where you want to be? Does he care?”

To which the answer, in Youngstown, has been an astonishing and vigorous “yes”...

Anyone seeking to understand the earthquake that has shaken US politics – to the point where a convicted felon, serial liar and twice-impeached former president can return to the White House in triumph, as Trump will do on 20 January – might learn a lot from the disillusioned working-class voters of north-east Ohio.

They tell blunt, profanity-laden stories of watching their city slump ever deeper into decline and express a real bleakness about the future. They see a political class corrupted by big-money donors who, they say, don’t care about communities like theirs. White voters point to conversations about justice – for racial minorities, for the children of immigrants, for women worried about losing their reproductive rights, for transgender teenagers – and question why nobody ever talks about justice for them.

Few expect Trump to fix everything or believe him when he says he will. What they do believe is that the system is broken and corrupt, just as Trump says it is, and that a candidate who promises to tear it down and start again might just be on to something.

“We just want a change, a change in the weather,” a retired aluminium worker wanting to go just by his first name, Paul, said as he sat with a group of friends in a cigarette shop in Struthers, a down-at-heel overwhelmingly white Youngstown suburb once known for its thick clusters of bars, pizza parlours, strip clubs and illegal gambling joints.

Paul and his friends come to the shop most days not to smoke – smoking is not allowed – but to scratch away at lottery tickets and reminisce about the old days, when a single factory salary could support a whole family and the main drag in Struthers was packed every Friday night with working men flush with their weekly pay packet...

The high-paying factory jobs started disappearing in the late 1970s with the closure of Youngstown Sheet & Tube, based in Struthers, and the bars and other businesses followed soon after...

“We feel left behind,” said another cigarette shop patron, a former railroad worker who wanted to be known just as Joe. “People who’ve lived here all their lives are working two or three jobs just to pay their bills.”


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When Henry Ford started his first assembly line in 1913 he said, "It will be a haven for those without the brains to do anything else." For four generations it was. Now that haven is coming to an end.

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To pass the test to get into a trade school to learn a skilled blue collar trade one probably needs an IQ of at least 80. That is the cut off point to get into the military. Trump cannot solve the problems of those people below 80. He does articulate their anger and gives them people to hate.

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They (mostly) voted for Trump in 2016 and then voted against him in 2020. I'm guessing whoever runs on the GOP ticket in 2028 will have to throw Trump under the bus to win. Harris did not do that to Biden and it cost her the election.
 
Elon Musk gets things done?

Have you seen the Cyber truck?
./----/ The wealthiest, most famous person in history. Tesla is more successful that all other car ompanies put to gether.
Elon Musk's accomplishments include founding companies, becoming CEO, and making investments.

  • 1971: Born Elon Reeve Musk in Pretoria, South Africa
  • 1983: Created the game Blastar and sold it for $500
  • 1992: Attended Penn and Stanford
  • 1995: Founded Zip2 Corporation
  • 1999: Sold Zip2
  • 2000: X.com merged with Confinity to form PayPal
  • 2002: Founded SpaceX, a company that makes rockets and spacecraft
  • 2003: Invested $6.5 million in Tesla, an electric car company
  • 2008: Became CEO of Tesla
  • 2016: Co-founded Neuralink, a neurotechnology company
  • 2022: Purchased Twitter and renamed it X in 2023
  • 2020: SpaceX became the first private company to send humans to the International Space Station
  • 2023: SpaceX Starship orbital test flight became the tallest, most powerful rocket to ever launch
  • 2025: DOGE
 
Meh, I'd put my debt free net worth up against 87% of the "educated" that voted dem.

I guess I better exclude congress since they can insider trade where I can't.

Bachelor degrees are a dime a dozen these days.

I have a small fleet of them fresh out of school who can't set up a simple integral equation.
I literally have to hold math classes at the office.

Years ago we had the older crop of engineers who didn't even need a calculator....they could do it all with pencil and paper and slide rule.
 
./----/ The wealthiest, most famous person in history. Tesla is more successful that all other car ompanies put to gether.
Elon Musk's accomplishments include founding companies, becoming CEO, and making investments.

  • 1971: Born Elon Reeve Musk in Pretoria, South Africa
  • 1983: Created the game Blastar and sold it for $500
  • 1992: Attended Penn and Stanford
  • 1995: Founded Zip2 Corporation
  • 1999: Sold Zip2
  • 2000: X.com merged with Confinity to form PayPal
  • 2002: Founded SpaceX, a company that makes rockets and spacecraft
  • 2003: Invested $6.5 million in Tesla, an electric car company
  • 2008: Became CEO of Tesla
  • 2016: Co-founded Neuralink, a neurotechnology company
  • 2022: Purchased Twitter and renamed it X in 2023
  • 2020: SpaceX became the first private company to send humans to the International Space Station
  • 2023: SpaceX Starship orbital test flight became the tallest, most powerful rocket to ever launch
  • 2025: DOGE

This is the guy we trust to redesign our government?

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./----/ The wealthiest, most famous person in history. Tesla is more successful that all other car ompanies put to gether.
Elon Musk's accomplishments include founding companies, becoming CEO, and making investments.

  • 1971: Born Elon Reeve Musk in Pretoria, South Africa
  • 1983: Created the game Blastar and sold it for $500
  • 1992: Attended Penn and Stanford
  • 1995: Founded Zip2 Corporation
  • 1999: Sold Zip2
  • 2000: X.com merged with Confinity to form PayPal
  • 2002: Founded SpaceX, a company that makes rockets and spacecraft
  • 2003: Invested $6.5 million in Tesla, an electric car company
  • 2008: Became CEO of Tesla
  • 2016: Co-founded Neuralink, a neurotechnology company
  • 2022: Purchased Twitter and renamed it X in 2023
  • 2020: SpaceX became the first private company to send humans to the International Space Station
  • 2023: SpaceX Starship orbital test flight became the tallest, most powerful rocket to ever launch
  • 2025: DOGE

Stop!! Stop!! There's no rainbow flags! I order you to stop!
 
Geez...I hear their owners love them...
But damn that thing is massively ugly.
When I saw the concept drawings, I thought it was a pretty cool looking truck

The first one I saw made me go…WTF?
 
So the higher EDS are easier to Bullshit ... Got it.
He’s bragging that college-educated went more for a complete idiot who was only selected for her female blackness and couldn’t even answer a basic question? When her teleprompter broke, she was in a panic and just kept repeating her last phrase!
 
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When I saw the concept drawings, I thought it was a pretty cool looking truck

The first one I saw made me go…WTF?

Not my thing, but unlike dems he isn't trying to force people to buy things like them via new ICE vehicle bans.
 
Not my thing, but unlike dems he isn't trying to force people to buy things like them via new ICE vehicle bans.

It looks like the winner here is going to be the hydrogen ICE.... THE ONE REMAINING PROBLEM IS HOW TO PRODUCE THE HYDROGEN WITHOUT USING FOSSIL FUEL ENERGY.
 

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