The youth: Is 18 to young to buy a gun?

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Well, everyone here must know by now that I am an unabashed 2nd amendment supporter. However, I do not have any issues with this law. I think the age of everything should be raised to 21 at least though. It's pretty easy to see how immature and thoughtless a lot of teens can be on a regular basis.

Why not 25 instead?

 

[ChrisL]

And the leftists who go along with, "we the people are too STUPID to take care of our own safety needs" or "we the people are too nuts (based on the actions of a lone wolf loon gunman) to be trusted with our rights." Assholes.

 

[kaz]

I heard a really good one today on the Morning Answer 560 WIND in Chicago from a text they received from a listener. Why should we genuflect to the young?

I quote, "If you don't want someone 18 years old to have guns or drive, why would you want a 16 or 17 year old to set public policy?

1:13:05 on the podcast for 3/12/2018.

This dude nailed it!!!!

I didn't miss your point. But on the narrow point, I started my gun collection when I was 15. Never shot anything I wasn't trying to shoot.

I will say though that until you are 18, your parents should have say so over your right to have guns and should have responsibility for what you do with your guns

I don't have a problem with kids using a gun under adult supervision. Just like I think 16 is WAAAY to young to be behind the wheel of a 2-ton piece of metal (especially when there are other people in their paths), I also think that 18 is probably a little too young to be just able to go out and buy a gun without parental knowledge or approval. Most 18-year-old kids still live at home under their parents' roofs.

I went hunting after high school regularly with my friends. We also did target practice. My father was a dead beat. My mother was at work. Screw that, it just means I couldn't have gone hunting. Why would I follow that law? And when I don't, why would I obey any others for the only reason they are the law?

My mother knew about all my guns, BTW. Most of them I got from her family.

Do you think people respecting the law is important? Or just following it because they'll go Stalin on us if we don't?

 

[Likkmee]

Move the voting age and the entry to the slaughter machine to....say......35. The world would be a better place.....

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

I think 18 is too young to vote.

is it too young to serve in the military as well?

I believe so.

 

[Likkmee]

How many of you asshats would quit work and run off to relieve Saddam of his non-existing WMD and leave a couple teenage kids and a wife behind ? How about Lil Rocket man ?
******* flag waving meatheads

 

[ChrisL]

I heard a really good one today on the Morning Answer 560 WIND in Chicago from a text they received from a listener. Why should we genuflect to the young?

I quote, "If you don't want someone 18 years old to have guns or drive, why would you want a 16 or 17 year old to set public policy?

1:13:05 on the podcast for 3/12/2018.

This dude nailed it!!!!

I didn't miss your point. But on the narrow point, I started my gun collection when I was 15. Never shot anything I wasn't trying to shoot.

I will say though that until you are 18, your parents should have say so over your right to have guns and should have responsibility for what you do with your guns

I don't have a problem with kids using a gun under adult supervision. Just like I think 16 is WAAAY to young to be behind the wheel of a 2-ton piece of metal (especially when there are other people in their paths), I also think that 18 is probably a little too young to be just able to go out and buy a gun without parental knowledge or approval. Most 18-year-old kids still live at home under their parents' roofs.

I went hunting after high school regularly with my friends. We also did target practice. My father was a dead beat. My mother was at work. Screw that, it just means I couldn't have gone hunting. Why would I follow that law? And when I don't, why would I obey any others for the only reason they are the law?

My mother knew about all my guns, BTW. Most of them I got from her family.

Do you think people respecting the law is important? Or just following it because they'll go Stalin on us if we don't?

Then your mother would be responsible for your breaking the law. Parents need to start being held more responsible for their children.

 

[ChrisL]

Maybe if these kids thought their moms were going to get in trouble, they would behave better.

 

[Likkmee]

If your idiot kid wants to join the military club him, and send him to trade school.......No. The Coast Guard( GREAT) falls under the dept of transportation...I know. "Didn't know that"
Hit the little i button so I can print it out as a trophy !

 

[ChrisL]

Hey, if an 18 year old is out on his/her own, supporting him/herself by working for a living and living a life independent of his/her parents, then they should certainly have all the rights that an adult would have. I don't feel the same about college kids or others whose parents are paying their way, and they are dependent upon their parents for survival still. So maybe some exceptions to the law wouldn't be such a terrible idea, depending on the circumstances. However, generally speaking, most 18-year-old kids are still fully reliant on their parents. A lot of them are still in high school too.

 

[RealDave]

Some policy is obvious.

When 18 year olds can buy an AR-15 & walk into a school & slaughter children, then obviously I think that these types of weapons should be banned. At the very least made more difficult to access by raising the age.

If children are being poisoned by lead in their water , then it is obvious that the situation should be remedied.

These kids from Florida show better thinking skills that Trump. Trump has made extremely shallow decisions like his wall & his tariffs.

I bet these kids could offer better arguments.

Gun ownership should be set at 25 & older according to brain development.

 

[kaz]

I heard a really good one today on the Morning Answer 560 WIND in Chicago from a text they received from a listener. Why should we genuflect to the young?

I quote, "If you don't want someone 18 years old to have guns or drive, why would you want a 16 or 17 year old to set public policy?

1:13:05 on the podcast for 3/12/2018.

This dude nailed it!!!!

I didn't miss your point. But on the narrow point, I started my gun collection when I was 15. Never shot anything I wasn't trying to shoot.

I will say though that until you are 18, your parents should have say so over your right to have guns and should have responsibility for what you do with your guns

I don't have a problem with kids using a gun under adult supervision. Just like I think 16 is WAAAY to young to be behind the wheel of a 2-ton piece of metal (especially when there are other people in their paths), I also think that 18 is probably a little too young to be just able to go out and buy a gun without parental knowledge or approval. Most 18-year-old kids still live at home under their parents' roofs.

I went hunting after high school regularly with my friends. We also did target practice. My father was a dead beat. My mother was at work. Screw that, it just means I couldn't have gone hunting. Why would I follow that law? And when I don't, why would I obey any others for the only reason they are the law?

My mother knew about all my guns, BTW. Most of them I got from her family.

Do you think people respecting the law is important? Or just following it because they'll go Stalin on us if we don't?

Then your mother would be responsible for your breaking the law. Parents need to start being held more responsible for their children.

What law did I break. Link?

I hope you grew up in the city because you're so innocently naive. That families teach their children to use guns safely makes us far safer as adults to do the same

 

[ChrisL]

I heard a really good one today on the Morning Answer 560 WIND in Chicago from a text they received from a listener. Why should we genuflect to the young?

I quote, "If you don't want someone 18 years old to have guns or drive, why would you want a 16 or 17 year old to set public policy?

1:13:05 on the podcast for 3/12/2018.

This dude nailed it!!!!

I didn't miss your point. But on the narrow point, I started my gun collection when I was 15. Never shot anything I wasn't trying to shoot.

I will say though that until you are 18, your parents should have say so over your right to have guns and should have responsibility for what you do with your guns

I don't have a problem with kids using a gun under adult supervision. Just like I think 16 is WAAAY to young to be behind the wheel of a 2-ton piece of metal (especially when there are other people in their paths), I also think that 18 is probably a little too young to be just able to go out and buy a gun without parental knowledge or approval. Most 18-year-old kids still live at home under their parents' roofs.

I went hunting after high school regularly with my friends. We also did target practice. My father was a dead beat. My mother was at work. Screw that, it just means I couldn't have gone hunting. Why would I follow that law? And when I don't, why would I obey any others for the only reason they are the law?

My mother knew about all my guns, BTW. Most of them I got from her family.

Do you think people respecting the law is important? Or just following it because they'll go Stalin on us if we don't?

Then your mother would be responsible for your breaking the law. Parents need to start being held more responsible for their children.

What law did I break. Link?

I hope you grew up in the city because you're so innocently naive

I'm a suburbanite girl. Right in the middle, as usual.

 

[jc456]

I feel for the kids, but honestly they don't really know what they are talking about. They don't understand. They are naive and trusting kids, who trust their government to keep them safe.

I think they asked simple questions...

Why doesn't this happen in other countries at such frequency?
Why does the government continually let this happen without any reaction?
Is the inaction of some representatives in fear of the NRA?

They are not setting policy just asking tough questions.

The government doesn't "let" this happen. That you think in this way is just a small part of the big picture here.

These are government properties, and the crime happens on those properties..

There are some very common sense laws that could make gun ownership safer and easier... More computerisation for one is a good example, the ATF by law has to keep only paper records, Dicky amendment of no federal money invested in gun violence, bump stocks, universal background checks....

Simple stuff... That is the inaction I am talking about, when nothing was done after Sandy Hook, was that good enough? Seriously....

well if the names aren't added to lists by the government when they have them, and the government fbi doesn't act/ ignore threats, why do you feel the government is the answer?

 

[kaz]

I didn't miss your point. But on the narrow point, I started my gun collection when I was 15. Never shot anything I wasn't trying to shoot.

I will say though that until you are 18, your parents should have say so over your right to have guns and should have responsibility for what you do with your guns

I don't have a problem with kids using a gun under adult supervision. Just like I think 16 is WAAAY to young to be behind the wheel of a 2-ton piece of metal (especially when there are other people in their paths), I also think that 18 is probably a little too young to be just able to go out and buy a gun without parental knowledge or approval. Most 18-year-old kids still live at home under their parents' roofs.

I went hunting after high school regularly with my friends. We also did target practice. My father was a dead beat. My mother was at work. Screw that, it just means I couldn't have gone hunting. Why would I follow that law? And when I don't, why would I obey any others for the only reason they are the law?

My mother knew about all my guns, BTW. Most of them I got from her family.

Do you think people respecting the law is important? Or just following it because they'll go Stalin on us if we don't?

Then your mother would be responsible for your breaking the law. Parents need to start being held more responsible for their children.

What law did I break. Link?

I hope you grew up in the city because you're so innocently naive

I'm a suburbanite girl. Right in the middle, as usual.

I grew up in Michigan in the 70s. Kaz is short for "Kalamazoo," my home town. I was fortunate to be in a decent sized down and have the advantages of a city but a small enough town that when you left the city limits you were pretty much in country. I went to a great school because it is a university town. I also sometimes worked on a farm doing things like bailing hay. I really got all the experiences.

I can tell you the leftist portrayal of Yosemite Sam gun owners is crap. These were very good, hard working people who obsessed with teaching their children morals, values and gun safety. I'd trust them over and inner city leftist any day of the week.

They are the ones you WANT to be armed

 

[jc456]

I heard a really good one today on the Morning Answer 560 WIND in Chicago from a text they received from a listener. Why should we genuflect to the young?

I quote, "If you don't want someone 18 years old to have guns or drive, why would you want a 16 or 17 year old to set public policy?

1:13:05 on the podcast for 3/12/2018.

This dude nailed it!!!!

Where is a '16 or 17 year old to set public policy'?

on every MSM network.

Let me break the news to you. Politicians set policy....
The 16 or 17 year olds are questioning that policy, which if I remeber properly they are fully entitled to do...

Why do you want to silence young people entering public discussion... How many kids have been killed by public discussion...

I think 18 is too young to vote.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to have it.

There was also a time when women where to emotional to vote and black people were too stupid to vote as well...

apples and oranges comparison, but thanks for trying.

 

[jc456]

I feel for the kids, but honestly they don't really know what they are talking about. They don't understand. They are naive and trusting kids, who trust their government to keep them safe.

I think they asked simple questions...

Why doesn't this happen in other countries at such frequency?
Why does the government continually let this happen without any reaction?
Is the inaction of some representatives in fear of the NRA?

They are not setting policy just asking tough questions.

why were they given so much air time?
why are they having a march, if for not to be setting policy?

dude, you're losing control. Those kids belong in school, should investigate and talk to others who have been affected by many numerous situations that they have no fking idea about. they know very little if anything. Again, let them take care of mommy and daddy's check book then since you believe them so mature to get into a political discussion with people like me and my peers.

BTW, the NRA isn't a person, and didn't squeeze any trigger at anytime of their existence. Do they know this? too funny how you want to listen to a child.

BTW, the answers to their question are too complicated and should be taught in...guess where....school. get the left out of the school and maybe they could actually learn something.

 

[ChrisL]

I don't have a problem with kids using a gun under adult supervision. Just like I think 16 is WAAAY to young to be behind the wheel of a 2-ton piece of metal (especially when there are other people in their paths), I also think that 18 is probably a little too young to be just able to go out and buy a gun without parental knowledge or approval. Most 18-year-old kids still live at home under their parents' roofs.

I went hunting after high school regularly with my friends. We also did target practice. My father was a dead beat. My mother was at work. Screw that, it just means I couldn't have gone hunting. Why would I follow that law? And when I don't, why would I obey any others for the only reason they are the law?

My mother knew about all my guns, BTW. Most of them I got from her family.

Do you think people respecting the law is important? Or just following it because they'll go Stalin on us if we don't?

Then your mother would be responsible for your breaking the law. Parents need to start being held more responsible for their children.

What law did I break. Link?

I hope you grew up in the city because you're so innocently naive

I'm a suburbanite girl. Right in the middle, as usual.

I grew up in Michigan in the 70s. Kaz is short for "Kalamazoo," my home town. I was fortunate to be in a decent sized down and have the advantages of a city but a small enough town that when you left the city limits you were pretty much in country. I went to a great school because it is a university town. I also sometimes worked on a farm doing things like bailing hay. I really got all the experiences.

I can tell you the leftist portrayal of Yosemite Sam gun owners is crap. These were very good, hard working people who obsessed with teaching their children morals, values and gun safety. I'd trust them over and inner city leftist any day of the week.

They are the ones you WANT to be armed

A LOT of the gang related shootings in the inner cities are committed by those under 21, believe it or not.

 

[ChrisL]

I don't have a problem with kids using a gun under adult supervision. Just like I think 16 is WAAAY to young to be behind the wheel of a 2-ton piece of metal (especially when there are other people in their paths), I also think that 18 is probably a little too young to be just able to go out and buy a gun without parental knowledge or approval. Most 18-year-old kids still live at home under their parents' roofs.

I went hunting after high school regularly with my friends. We also did target practice. My father was a dead beat. My mother was at work. Screw that, it just means I couldn't have gone hunting. Why would I follow that law? And when I don't, why would I obey any others for the only reason they are the law?

My mother knew about all my guns, BTW. Most of them I got from her family.

Do you think people respecting the law is important? Or just following it because they'll go Stalin on us if we don't?

Then your mother would be responsible for your breaking the law. Parents need to start being held more responsible for their children.

What law did I break. Link?

I hope you grew up in the city because you're so innocently naive

I'm a suburbanite girl. Right in the middle, as usual.

I grew up in Michigan in the 70s. Kaz is short for "Kalamazoo," my home town. I was fortunate to be in a decent sized down and have the advantages of a city but a small enough town that when you left the city limits you were pretty much in country. I went to a great school because it is a university town. I also sometimes worked on a farm doing things like bailing hay. I really got all the experiences.

I can tell you the leftist portrayal of Yosemite Sam gun owners is crap. These were very good, hard working people who obsessed with teaching their children morals, values and gun safety. I'd trust them over and inner city leftist any day of the week.

They are the ones you WANT to be armed

I want everyone who has not committed a crime and who is of a reasonable age to be able to practice their rights.

 

[kaz]

I went hunting after high school regularly with my friends. We also did target practice. My father was a dead beat. My mother was at work. Screw that, it just means I couldn't have gone hunting. Why would I follow that law? And when I don't, why would I obey any others for the only reason they are the law?

My mother knew about all my guns, BTW. Most of them I got from her family.

Do you think people respecting the law is important? Or just following it because they'll go Stalin on us if we don't?

Then your mother would be responsible for your breaking the law. Parents need to start being held more responsible for their children.

What law did I break. Link?

I hope you grew up in the city because you're so innocently naive

I'm a suburbanite girl. Right in the middle, as usual.

I grew up in Michigan in the 70s. Kaz is short for "Kalamazoo," my home town. I was fortunate to be in a decent sized down and have the advantages of a city but a small enough town that when you left the city limits you were pretty much in country. I went to a great school because it is a university town. I also sometimes worked on a farm doing things like bailing hay. I really got all the experiences.

I can tell you the leftist portrayal of Yosemite Sam gun owners is crap. These were very good, hard working people who obsessed with teaching their children morals, values and gun safety. I'd trust them over and inner city leftist any day of the week.

They are the ones you WANT to be armed

A LOT of the gang related shootings in the inner cities are committed by those under 21, believe it or not.

And ...

Walk me through your logic here.

OK, we raise the gun age to 21. Then what happens? Is this the old gun laws will work where drug laws don't bit?