The war on vaccines continues

[Rawley]

I love science. You embrace ignorance.

Great, then you can explain why vaccines are not tested using randomized, double blinded, long term, real placebo controlled studies.

 

[Crepitus]

Great, then you can explain why vaccines are not tested using randomized, double blinded, long term, real placebo controlled studies.

Um, they are.

 

[JohnDB]

Great, then you can explain why vaccines are not tested using randomized, double blinded, long term, real placebo controlled studies.

There's also a good sized debate to be had about another research and Medical treatment principle. "Qualified, informed, CONSENT".

MEANING: those people whom you experiment upon or medically treat must be informed about ALL risks and possibilities of their choices.

You can't even be prescribed antibiotics or birth control pills without a consult from the pharmacist.

Even aspirin has warning labels.
Medical procedures/Treatments have EXACTLY the same guidelines.

Unless it's something that the Democrats demand you do....apparently.

 

[Rawley]

Um, they are.

Nope.

You need to stop listening to your cult masters for sciency things.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/05/01/nx-s1-5383172/rfk-jr-placebo-vaccine-testing-studies

 

[Crepitus]

Nope

Kid, I was in the trial for the Moderna covid vax. Don't try to tell lies like that to someone who knows better.

 

[JohnDB]

Um, they are.

They are NOT.
The "testing" is done from computer modeling from statistical analysis. Not real "double blind and repeated" research.

I know the mathematicians.....it's the bulk of their job. And they can get "creative" when creating the models when told they need to.

It's the way things have been done for the past 20 years.

 

[Rawley]

Kid, I was in the trial for the Moderna covid vax. Don't try to tell lies like that to someone who knows better.

Well sorry Gramps, no one in you trial had a real placebo.

I repeat, for your obviously vaccine affected cognition.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/05/01/nx-s1-5383172/rfk-jr-placebo-vaccine-testing-studies

 

[Crepitus]

They are NOT.
The "testing" is done from computer modeling from statistical analysis. Not real "double blind and repeated" research.

I know the mathematicians.....it's the bulk of their job. And they can get "creative" when creating the models when told they need to.

It's the way things have been done for the past 20 years.

I was in the moderna trial. I've seen this from the inside. Take your lies elsewhere.

 

[Crepitus]

Well sorry Gramps, no one in you trial had a real placebo.

I repeat, for your obviously vaccine affected cognition.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/05/01/nx-s1-5383172/rfk-jr-placebo-vaccine-testing-studies

Oh, but they did. We weren't told who actually got the shot until 6 months later.

 

[JohnDB]

I was in the moderna trial. I've seen this from the inside. Take your lies elsewhere.

Yeah?

20 years in the medical research industry. You seen nothing if you were in the trial...you were the guinea pig. Not a researcher.

However,
My household : Epidemiology, research billing grids, then Cancer research. (Stayed out of virology and infectious diseases)

I know exactly what, when, how, and why. And you really know nothing.

Do you even know the turnaround time on an SAE report? Or what an SAE report is? The audits done on them? How about a cappa?

These are foundational things for research.
You got an injection and then lied to....it doesn't make you knowledgeable....it makes you a stooge.

 

[MarcATL]

Duh, I'm mocking the TDS poster.

In other words, he's mocking himself...

 

[Rawley]

Oh, but they did. We weren't told who actually got the shot until 6 months later.

Nope. It was not an H2O or salt H2O placebo and and it was certainly not long term. Your masters at big pharma have brain washed you well.

I assume you haven't read the npr article I linked. Not sure why I bother.

 

[Rawley]

You got an injection and then lied to....it doesn't make you knowledgeable....it makes you a stooge.

He did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.

 

[elektra]

What in the Kentucky-fried crack-rock are you babbling about?

You did not pay attention to what you linked to? Of course not. I am not surprised you have no idea what your link stated.

 

[JohnDB]

Well sorry Gramps, no one in you trial had a real placebo.

I repeat, for your obviously vaccine affected cognition.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/05/01/nx-s1-5383172/rfk-jr-placebo-vaccine-testing-studies

Some for the covid trials did get a placebo saline injection and some got a malaria/yellow fever vaccine because it HAS BEEN double blind and quadruple independent repeated studied by WHO. (Wasting money) They were absolutely positive of its side effects.

But it's still not the proper science. There are ways and there were trials that showed consistent results with side effects of mRNA BUT they lied and hid these side effects.
(And to this day they are NOT being discussed). The miocarditis is stuff of headlines but it's not all or even the most potentially revealing of larger issues.

 

[Rawley]

In other words, he's mocking himself...

Trillions died. Bernie told me it was trillions and Bernie would never lie

 

[struth]

RFK jr just ousted the entire vaccine advisory board. He promises to replace them with his own picks. Who will likely be the same brand of anti science crazy that he is.

RFK Jr. ousts entire CDC vaccine advisory committee

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has removed every member of a scientific committee that advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on how to use vaccines.

apnews.com

Why shouldn’t the Sec of HHS have his own picks?

 

[Zincwarrior]

A little help for ya there:

Elections matter. No MAGA should get vaccinated. CLEANSE The GENE POOL OF MORONS.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Remember Orange Jesus and all his kids have been vaccinated.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Why shouldn’t the Sec of HHS have his own picks?

What qualifications does he have to be Sec of HHS?